Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 09:48:49 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: CANV run... Joe Schaefer wrote: > > >I'm down here in Santa Barbara. > <snip snip> > >> i had a nother idea. we can wait for the PNW fest > >> to end, and all the trip reports to come in, and get the calnev > >> FSJers to get jealous and then spring one on em!! > > > >To make 'em REALLY jealous we could hold it in the middle of > >winter...no, that's too far off. > > Oh no! Winter in Santa Barbara...you'd have to wear long sleeves ;) > > -jj That's what I meant! We could actually have one day at the beach in the sun at Pismo Dunes and then the next day drive up to Mt. Pinos and play in the snow!!! Tom Anhalt[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 09:53:11 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Re. 360 artic.-hear riser valve Michael Baxter wrote: > > Jeff Herbst <JeffHerbst-at-electrosys.com> writes: > > >> What did you replace it with? A doughnut gasket like on the other side? > I'. having a terrible time getting mine (new, now $85!) no to leak when > cold. It sounds terrible 1st thing in the morning, but shuts up after > fully warmed up. > << > > Jeff, I can picture what it looked like but, I'm not sure I could do a > description justice. I took it to an exhaust shop and asked them to get rid of > that thing no matter what it took. Dynamite was not out of the question. > > The shop fabricated a section that sandwiched in between the pipe flange and > the manifold. It didn't cost very much and i never had another problem. > > -- Michael Baxter, 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com When I got rid of the heat riser on my Buick, I just had the muffler shop guy burn out the butterfly with his torch before he put the exhaust on. The things is still a part of the exhaust, there's just no butterfly valve inside now!! Tom Anhalt[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 10:16:00 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: ?'s About Ol' White Edwin Pedersen wrote: > > I was poking around under the hood tonight & have > come to the conclusion that I have the BBD carb, not > the Motorcraft 2100 as originally thought. > As this is an automatic, it has the solenoid on the > side of the carb. The questions is, what is this > solenoid for ?? Comments about the BBD carb? > Good? Bad? Are you referring to the big stepper motor plug towards the rear of the carb? Or are you talking about the Sol-Vac dealy-bob (it has an electical connection and a vacuum connection)? Since your rig is a '79, I don't think you have the computer controlled carb. Here's a quick check. Does your exhaust manifold have an O2 sensor in it? If it doesn't, then you don't have the computer controlled version. I just checked my handy-dandy parts manual (Thanks Zack!) and sure enough, of the two BBDs listed, neither is the computer controlled carb but one has the Sol-Vac on the drivers side front of the carb. Is this what you have? Anyway, most of the beefs that people have with the BBD is the computer controlled version since it is sensitive to having multiple sensor working in order to function properly. The version you have is a good carb, just spray carb cleaner down the throat every once and awhile. Tom Anhalt[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 12:42:06 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Exhaust >loud right now w/o the muffler..) I am thinking of taking it to a muffler >shop and having them cut-off the current muffler system from just behind >the collector and mounting just the new muffler in, then when I have the >time I can change the headers and hook them up with the rest of the system. > > >What do you think? > >John Jacobs <<>> jabobsj-at-flash.net >75 Wagoneer >Royal Oak, Michigan >http://www.flash.net/~jabobsj John, That's exactly what I would do. Temp fix then go for the gusto! C'ya joe 79 Chief Indy[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 11:47:02 -0800 From: Warren Rund <reno1-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Exhaust I agree with JJ, headers are not really worth it in your case. A good 2 1/4" exhaust system will give you everything you need for performance and mileage. Good luck, and have fun on your camp-out, Warren[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 11:57:04 -0800 From: Warren Rund <reno1-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Q-Trac not working Here is some input for those with Quadartrack- I recently bought a '77 Wagoneer with Q-track. The previous owner had just spent $1,300 having the Q-track rebuilt because it would not work when he tried to "lock" it in. After the rebuild, it still would not lock in, so in frustration he sold it. The first thing I lookded for was the vacuum hoses for the Q-track. The ends were hard and cracked. Since they are way small and my parts store didn't have anything the same size (they do have those little green tree air fresheners, though) I merely cut off the cracked ends, put it back on, it has worked perfect ever since. It is somehting we should all inspect and replace if it looks bad. It's too late to do anything after you're buried axle-deep in snow / mud / sand. Enjoy the weekend, Warren[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:46:44 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: re: nv4500
>How much what Doc???Soon???You want it Ill send it.....Remember that a
>cummins has a larger input shaft than a regular NV4500 from a gas motor.A
>Dodge NV4500 is more in demand than a GM.
Yeah, how much is the NV4500 gonna cost me? For shipping, and of course
for the tranny itself?
I didn't know about the difference in input shafts... but then again, I'm
SURE my entire clutch assembly and flywheel and pilot bushing all probably
need replacing anyway (five years of leaking tranny, plus other problems,
thanks to Mr. Clutch and Brake), so that's probably a moot point. The
problem is whether or not the parts to make it work behind my 4.2 exist....
although from what a friend (the famous Jeep engineer... <grin>) has been
telling me, it supposedly seems to be no prob. I'll have to check into it...
thanks!
Oh, I finally found the part about the price... um, don't send it yet!
<grin>.
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[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:48:28 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: VW virtual tour
>> http://www.acvwjyro.com/tour/home.htm
>>
>> Take the Type III. It's JUST like driving around in Timex. Trust me.
>>Just close your eyes and ignore the pix. Just read what it says, and now
>>you'll know just what I go through... <grin>.
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>Very clever:) I especially liked the "The steering's just a little sloppy,
>that's all". Boy have I been there! I had to make a 35 mile trip home one
>time after the steering box gave up the ghost. The steering wheel had 3/4
>rotation worth of slack =:O Made for real interesting curves on the 2 lane
>hiway home.
Well, that in and of itself ain't really the problem... <grin> I mean
what's so much like driving Timex... it's the "oops, generator's gone"
"kronk it, who needs one, let's keep going", etc, etc.... that's so much
like my truck... <grin>
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[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:55:25 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: re: a HA! Carter secrets revealed
>>> Whilst perusing the web this morning, searching for perhaps some
>manufacturer's guidance, I came upon a few interesting tidbits...
><http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/august/techtips.htm> for one... Tech Tips
for
>the feedback BBD.
> <<
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> Doc do I have to suggest you add a link to that page on the IFSJ site or are
>you already there?
Well, Mike, it's in the process of being added.... like about 100 other
pages, links, pictures, etc are all "in the process".... still don't have
Timex running right, and still working seven days a week. I was supposed
to be off last night, but the person who was supposed to work got sick... ugh
So, guys, it's now been, oh, what, three weeks since the last update? Two
and a half? And it looks like it may be another week or two... soon as I
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[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 12:21:52 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Super jacobs
well if i run 050 like u suggest, ill have to buy the HEI type
plugs which r designed for that large gap!!
also, jacobs has two coils. the ultra coil, that square box
with the fins, and the other, that is the same size as OEM
but had the silver finish. which do u prefer?
also, JCW has the petronix for $67, but $14.25 to ship it
to me. u want me to wait for the summit cat?!?!?Tom Anhalt wrote:
>
>
> Get the Jacobs coil when you get the Pertronix. That way you can run
> your gaps at .050 like I do on my 258!!
>
> Tom Anhalt
> '81 Cherokee Laredo
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[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 15:21:11 -0800 From: Warren Rund <reno1-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Super jacobs Ken- use the Ultra coil with the pertronix, plug gap of .045 with your current plugs (unless they are old). Is your 350 otherwise stock? Warren[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:21:54 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: Re: Reno rain? nonfsj At 10:20 PM 5/30/97 -0700, you wrote: >>I wish! The weatherman came on a few minutes ago & told us of road >>closings about an our south of me due to flash flooding. The rain isn't >>supposed to let up until Sunday :( It's been a really wet spring here >>(pretty bad flooding, similar to the Dakota's, along the Ohio river earlier >>this year). >> >>Mike S. > >Geez...I've been in NV and AZ during those "flash floods" :( >Hope it doesn't get to where you're at. > I live on a small hill and about an 45 minutes from any flooding areas. Indy Joe & I only have to worry about the New Madrid fault deciding to give us a quake one of these days. Mike Saltsgaver[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 19:08:27 -0500 From: brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com (John Brewer) Subject: '84 J10 Price I haven't looked at that '84 J10 but a friend stopped by and looked at it for me. This is his report: '84 J10, 105K miles. "Pioneer" edition (whatever that is?). 360 V8 (duh), AT/PW/PS/PB/AC, nice interior. Suspension in good shape, shocks shot. Little to no rust. Good paint (white, can cover extensive body work). Asking $4700. Small time dealer. How is this price for a 13 year old truck? I probably couldn't get that for my '89 GW with 60K on it. Comments? Suggestions? John Brewer "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." Benjamin Franklin[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:15:09 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Super jacobs
totally stock save for flap top pistons, and a crane RV cam.
Warren Rund wrote:
>
> Ken- use the Ultra coil with the pertronix, plug gap of .045 with your
> current plugs (unless they are old). Is your 350 otherwise stock?
>
> Warren
>
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[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 31 May 97 18:29:35 PDT From: "Alisa Mize" <jaamize-at-nwlink.com> Subject: Re: '84 J10 Price I probably couldn't get that > for my '89 GW with 60K on it. Comments? Suggestions? > > John Brewer > heck, if your 89 GW is/was in good condition I'd jump on it at that pric= e. I haven't seen one sell in the pnw for under 8000.00 Alisa[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:36:03 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: '84 J10 Price At 19:08 31-05-97 -0500, you wrote: >I haven't looked at that '84 J10 but a friend stopped by and looked at it >for me. This is his report: '84 J10, 105K miles. "Pioneer" edition >(whatever that is?). 360 V8 (duh), AT/PW/PS/PB/AC, nice interior. >Suspension in good shape, shocks shot. Little to no rust. Good paint >(white, can cover extensive body work). Asking $4700. Small time dealer. >How is this price for a 13 year old truck? I probably couldn't get that >for my '89 GW with 60K on it. Comments? Suggestions? > >John Brewer John, It's all geographically/emotionaly relative so far as price goes. For the PNW I'd say it's high...the 'little to no rust' thing is a glitch. If it's a "little" rusty you'd better do a thorough search underneath (ya should anyway). Seems my little brain says you're in the SE ? Carefull, some of the rigs came from the rust belt and A LOT were exported from the previous years flood areas and dumped cheap in other areas. For me being in WA, rust is unacceptable. I realize some of you in other parts of the country can't afford the luxury of being that picky or you'd never get an older fsj or any older rig. For me it's easier and cheaper to go through a motor myself than it is to 'pay' for rust repair and a paint job. Painting costs here are ridiculous... The truck sounds nice though. The interior prolly verifies the low miles. The Pioneer pack is a trim pack. Prolly stick-on stripes, a few emblems, piece-o-chrome here or there? Remember J-trucks have a lower resale value than a comparable Ford or Chevy. Value/worth is also relative to "how bad you want it" :) I would think of how much you want to spend, what it may be worth "to you" and go in with a figure in your head. Adjust accordingly to condition. Since it's a dealer you don't have to worry about offending him with a real low offer, occupational hazard...abuse :) If the dealer is asking 4.7k he prolly paid 2.5k or less. Is it the short wheelbase or long? 118"/130" (7' box or 8')? That can be relative in certain areas. Shorties look cool but long boxes are more practical. If I saw the ad and was going to check it out and since it's a dealer I'd go in offering 32 if I liked it, then go from there... You may get lucky and it's cherry and worth 47. Only one way to find out :) Just my long and dragged out 2 cents worth. Ever notice I don't offer much tech help, but if it's an opinion ya want...I'm your guy, I got lots :) Regards, -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:44:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney <karaandmick-at-mail.telis.org>
Subject: CA/NV jeep fest
Okay, I have to apologise,
after getting everyone wound up about meeting in San Jose, it looks
like I wont be able to make it.
So if someone else wants to do the cajoling, go ahead, I'm really sorry I
won't be there.
BTW Tom, how far is Pismo from you, my neighbours are pushing me to go sand
railing there with them in August. (I already went to sand mountain, where
the wag became a very popular beer support vehicle)
Anyway, hope you guys have fun.
sniffle...
mick
[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:06:02 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: Re: Q-Trac not working The first thing I lookded for was the vacuum hoses for the Q-track. >The ends were hard and cracked. Since they are way small and my parts >store didn't have anything the same size (they do have those little >green tree air fresheners, though) I merely cut off the cracked ends, >put it back on, it has worked perfect ever since. > >It is somehting we should all inspect and replace if it looks bad. Find a parts store that does carry the right size hose (NAPA for example), & replace the hoses to the heater control while your at it (it's the same size). That way you'll still have a defroster when you need it:) Mike Saltsgaver[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 20:22:41 PDT
From: "wallace rees" <seerlaw-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: decal
Hey guys, I must be blind which of 4 wheeler is
the picture of the decal?
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[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:02:25 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: Re: '84 J10 Price This is his report: '84 J10, 105K miles. "Pioneer" edition >(whatever that is?). 360 V8 (duh), AT/PW/PS/PB/AC, nice interior. >Suspension in good shape, shocks shot. Little to no rust. Good paint >(white, can cover extensive body work). Asking $4700. The Pioneer is a decal package on a model 25 (short wheelbase). With that mileage, the price seems a little steep. If the rust is only surface (we all know the paint doesn't hold up on fsj's) maybe $3500. IF there's any cancer at all, think twice. No good sheetmetal here, Mike Saltsgaver.[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 00:10:39 -0400
From: Zack Heisey <moosh-at-redrose.net>
Subject: '62-'72 Parts Book Latest
Hey guys,
Out of the votes that have been cast, the 80# has gotten all the
votes but one. So this is what we're going with. If anyone has changed
their mind because of this, let me know very soon. The updated list of
people interested are:
SuperKen
Tom Taylor
Joe Schaefer
Kevin LaRue
Bruce (1414)
Brad (bks-at-co.intel.com)
Landen Schooler
Bill McBride
ScO
Henry Padilla
Tony Hanson
Alan Wysocki
Robert Close
Tim Cowden
David Klingenberg
That's fifteen. I'll make a couple of extras for myself as always. The
call for checks will go out next later this week. Later,
Zack Heisey
'79 J-10
'79 Cherokee Chief Wide Track
[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:11:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Sheppard1-at-aol.com Subject: starting problem Twice this week the jeep wouldn't start. Both times it was after a drive in warm weather. After letting the engine cool down, it would start ok. Seems like a fuel problem, because even after pumping the accelerator pedal there was very little gas in the carburetor. I suspect vapor lock because the problem seems to happen only when the engine is hot. I read in the shop manual that the fuel filter has 2 outlet nipples and it is very important that the fuel return hose be connected above the carb. hose. When I inspected my fuel filter, I found the opposite ! I repositioned the fuel filter with the return hose on top and will have to wait and see if that corrects the problem. Has anybody else run into this problem? Thanks! Andrew Sheppard 89GW[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 00:23:44 -0400 From: Zack Heisey <moosh-at-redrose.net> Subject: All Brands Jeep Show Update Today was a good day. The sun was out and the jeeps were shining. Meg and I drove the jeeps to the show, and we ended up with our own little jeep caravan by the time we got there. There were a ton of CJ's from mind to wild. The truck only had one competitor and it was a sorry, tired little Comanche from New Jersey. Needless to say, the truck took first in class. The cherokee, the nicer of the two, however, did not fair so well. Because I rebuilt the engine so I was in the moderate class instead of the stock class, so I was up against brand new Chero's and Grand Chero's with lifts and lights and bars and all that stuff. There were over ten vechiles in the moderate class alone. I don't think the chero will get anything. There were a total of 6 FSJ's there. 4 were entered in the show. My two, a nice 77 Chero Chief, and a totally stock 76 Chero Chief. The other two were a J-10 that a guy used to pull his parts trailer, and a blue 78 Chero Chief that I talked to the owner after the show. All in all it was a good show. I have to go back tomorrow and pick up the trophy for the truck. I bought a brush guard in perfect shape for the cherokee, and I have a guy getting together the following parts for me; all from his barn!!! A D300 with a D20 bolt pattern, 4" hole A D60 FF, and a D44 HD with 4.10's Two four core radiators, one with tranny cooler That's all for now. I look at what else he has when I get there. Cheers, Zack Heisey '79 J-10 '79 Cherokee Chief Wide Track http://www.dickinson.edu/~marschka/FSJ.jeeps.html[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:27:09 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Q-Trac not working >It is somehting we should all inspect and replace if it looks bad. It's >too late to do anything after you're buried axle-deep in snow / mud / >sand. > >Enjoy the weekend, > >Warren Fabulous post Warren! Good advice for all QT owners. C'ya joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:32:48 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Super jacobs > >also, jacobs has two coils. the ultra coil, that square box >with the fins, and the other, that is the same size as OEM >but had the silver finish. which do u prefer? >also, JCW has the petronix for $67, but $14.25 to ship it >to me. u want me to wait for the summit cat?!?!?Tom Anhalt wrote: Ken, I paid something like $72 for the Pertronics from Summit last fall, that included shipping. I'd wait. To hel* with JCW. C'ya Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:35:01 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Reno rain? nonfsj >> >I live on a small hill and about an 45 minutes from any flooding areas. >Indy Joe & I only have to worry about the New Madrid fault deciding to give >us a quake one of these days. > >Mike Saltsgaver > hmmm, Indy Joe doesn't worry about that stuff....remember the old commercials..."It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.....ka-whap!!!" C'ya joe- >[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:37:21 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: '84 J10 Price At 07:08 PM 5/31/97 -0500, you wrote: >I haven't looked at that '84 J10 but a friend stopped by and looked at it >for me. This is his report: '84 J10, 105K miles. "Pioneer" edition >(whatever that is?). 360 V8 (duh), AT/PW/PS/PB/AC, nice interior. >Suspension in good shape, shocks shot. Little to no rust. Good paint >(white, can cover extensive body work). Asking $4700. Small time dealer. >How is this price for a 13 year old truck? I probably couldn't get that >for my '89 GW with 60K on it. Comments? Suggestions? > >John Brewer Way too high.....imho. Joe- in 1988 I bought a 78 J-10, levi's interior, little rust, 360 etc etc with a $2500 snow plow on it for $2k. That truck was only 10 years old when i bought it.[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:49:00 -0500
From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com>
Subject: weekend (non-fsj)
NON FSJ DELETE NOW!!!!!
Well tonite our 4th son graduated from HS tonite.
Thats four down and one to go. Daughter is
almost a Sophomore (after next week)
In two weeks this same son gets married! He's the
first to take the plunge.
Oh...I did have to move the Cherokee today to gain
a parking spot for tonite's party, so this is a
tiny bit fsj related. I am extremely happy to see
another one hit adult-hood. The three older ones
went to or are still in college and holding full
time jobs.
We have three marriages in the next 12 months!!!
June 97, Oct 97 and June 98. Arghhhhhh!!!!!
Can you say broke in 98?
Life is good......
C'ya
joe-
-a happy Hoosier-
[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:52:00 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: starting problem >I read in the shop manual that the fuel filter has 2 outlet nipples and it is >very important that the fuel return hose be connected above the carb. hose. >When I inspected my fuel filter, I found the opposite ! >I repositioned the fuel filter with the return hose on top and will have to >wait and see if that corrects the problem. >Has anybody else run into this problem? >Thanks! >Andrew Sheppard >89GW Yes and someone said it was important which of the two outlet nipples was situated on top. I 'think' you want the return line the highest or upper nipple. Wierd how such a small item can effect or cause vapor lock. C'ya joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:54:21 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: All Brands Jeep Show Update > I bought a brush guard in perfect shape for the cherokee, and I have a >guy getting together the following parts for me; all from his barn!!! >A D300 with a D20 bolt pattern, 4" hole >A D60 FF, and a D44 HD with 4.10's >Two four core radiators, one with tranny cooler >That's all for now. I look at what else he has when I get there. >Cheers, > > >Zack Heisey >'79 J-10 >'79 Cherokee Chief Wide Track >http://www.dickinson.edu/~marschka/FSJ.jeeps.html > Wow Zack congrats!! I knew you could do it. Sounds like you cleaned up in more ways than one!! Long live the fsj. joe- >[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:11:24 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: weekend (non-fsj) At 23:49 31-05-97 -0500, you wrote: >NON FSJ DELETE NOW!!!!! > > >Well tonite our 4th son graduated from HS tonite. >Thats four down and one to go. Joe, You got them little icons painted on your check book cover like the pilots had painted on their planes in WWII for every zero they shot down... ;) -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:17:30 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: All Brands Jeep Show Update Zack, Besides yourself and your lady...ya dun us proud! Good shopping day too huh? ;) Regards, -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:17:32 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Super jacobs SuperKen wrote: > > well if i run 050 like u suggest, ill have to buy the HEI type > plugs which r designed for that large gap!! > That's not true. In fact Jacob's recommends you use run of the mill motorcraft or champion spark plugs. Apparently they've done tests and found that these last the longest. > also, jacobs has two coils. the ultra coil, that square box > with the fins, and the other, that is the same size as OEM > but had the silver finish. which do u prefer? > also, JCW has the petronix for $67, but $14.25 to ship it > to me. u want me to wait for the summit cat?!?!?Tom Anhalt wrote: The Ultra coil is what I have as a part of my Omni-Pack. They basically took the Ultra coil and stuffed the mileage master in there as well. Actually, I think either would be adequate. According to the catalog I have, there's a chart that show that the Ultra coil puts out a flat 36000 volts all the way up to around 6800 rpm. The other coil, I thinks it's called the energy coil, is the OEM, silver looking one and it has a similiar voltage plot but is at a slightly lower 32000 volts. Either one is going to blow the doors off any OEM coil. In fact, the same chart show a typical OEM coil starting at 25000 volts at 1000 rpm and steadily drops off to less than 6000 volts at 7000 rpm. I ordered it from JCW just because I was ordering something else already at the time so the shipping didn't seem so bad for 2 items. Actually, I have a summit catalog right here...it's listed at $67.99. I just remembered something about using high energy coils with the Pertronx so I dug up the instruction sheets for the Pertronix and here's what they say about using an aftermarket coil with the system: "The Ignitor is compatible with any "point type" after-market or OEM coil regardless of voltage output. The Ignitor does require a coil with a minimum of 1.5 ohms resistance across the "+" and "-" of the coil. CAUTION: NEVER use a "HEI" type coil with the ignitor. This type of coil will provide too much current to the Ignitor, causing it to eventually "burn out" and fail, which will void your warranty...If a high performance coil is desired Pertronix offers it's "Flame-Thrower" 40,000 volt coil specifically for use with the Ignitor." What I had planned to do when I eventually switch my Jacob's to my Buick was to use the "secondary trigger" that came with the Jacob's Omni-Pack. This uses the stock coil as the input to the computer so the Ignitor will never "see" the Omni. I think I will give Jacobs and Pertronix a call anyway to see if I can run it without the trigger like I do on my Jeep now. I would suggest that you call them too to make sure you get a system that all works together. If you end up getting a jacobs coil, make sure you get a secondary trigger for your computer so that you have more options. Here are the numbers: Pertronix - 818-331-4801 Jacobs - 800-627-8800 Tom Anhalt '81 Cherokee Laredo[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:21:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Re: Super jacobs On Sat, 31 May 1997 18:15:09 -0700 SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> wrote: > totally stock save for flap top pistons, and a crane RV cam. Flap top, eh? Bet they knock like a desiel on steroids!!! ;}[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:37:33 -0500 From: "Sc0" <jjd-at-flex.net> Subject: vent I've been reading about a Hummer lately, ( http://www.installer.com/hummod.html ), and I saw a neat thing that was mounted on a Hummer. It was a Snorkel. Knowing that about 95% of the water that leaks to the inside my truck comes from the air-vent, by closing it off and installing a snorkel it would end "most" of my leaks... So. what would ya'll think about seeing a FSJ with a snorkel? steps; 1.) Remove the factory air-vent. 2.) seal the little vents up with.....(take you pick: Duct tape, RTV, Bondo, Epoxy/Fiberglass, Silicone, and Metal) 3.) put the vent back on with sealant all around it so no water can seap back in. 4.) drill a 1.5" to 2" hole somewhere around the "air box." 5.) Add some kind of pipe through the hole with a lid on it so only air enters it 6.) run anything that Sucks air to this... 7.) this is a VERY brief sketch.....soon to be detailed. "We are Microsoft, Resistance is Futile." Sc0[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:31:01 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Flap Top pistons? SuperKen wrote: > > totally stock save for flap top pistons, and a crane RV cam. > FLAP top pistons? Is this a new special speed secret? How do they work? Does the top actually have a pivoting flap? Wow. Tom Anhalt <BG>[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:34:09 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Pismo Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney wrote: > > Okay, I have to apologise, > after getting everyone wound up about meeting in San Jose, it looks > like I wont be able to make it. > So if someone else wants to do the cajoling, go ahead, I'm really sorry I > won't be there. > BTW Tom, how far is Pismo from you, my neighbours are pushing me to go sand > railing there with them in August. (I already went to sand mountain, where > the wag became a very popular beer support vehicle) > Anyway, hope you guys have fun. > sniffle... > mick Pismo is only about 80 miles north of me. I've only been to the dunes once with some friends when we went for the day and rented ATVs. Had a complete blast racing and jumping over the dunes. Gee...I gotta go back sometime soon. Tom Anhalt[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:49:12 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Super jacobs
nope, with the 73cc heads, it only comes out
to about 9.0comp. which is fine for 87 octaine CA
gas. but if it does knock under load, i dont hear it
or feel it. but then, maybe u dont anyway!!
Moake Brian wrote:
>
> On Sat, 31 May 1997 18:15:09 -0700 SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
> wrote:
>
> > totally stock save for flap top pistons, and a crane RV cam.
>
> Flap top, eh? Bet they knock like a desiel on steroids!!! ;}
>
>
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[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:52:52 -0800 From: mindale-at-ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: CA/NV FSJ get together In response to my own E-mail, Hollister hills SVRA does not take camping reservations, first come first serve. Check out their web site at www.pnet.net/hh/index.html Also, in regards to all of the recent talk about Jacobs ignitions how do they compare to MSD? MSD is less expensive, is Jacobs worth the difference in price? -- Dale Webb Pleasanton Ca.'78 Cherokee Chief, 360, T-18[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:56:12 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Super jacobs
but if u view that 'coil chart' there is a base line
indicating the necessary voltage required
to fire the spark. and it indicates
that the OEM coil will produce satifactory spark up
till about 4500rpm. the Super as of yet, ahs not seen 3400!!
so ill hold off on the ultra coil, for the time being. i can always
buy it later.
the story with the plugs, is that the wide
gap u speak of on a plug that was designed
for only the 035 gap, will cause the electrode arm
to angle up at anything over 045. that has been my experience.
i say if the 050 gap is to be used, that i get some OEM HEI, mid
70 sbGM champion plugs, that alow for the wider gap, but
maitain the perpindicular angle of the electrode arm to the center
electrode.
i have jacobs book!
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[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:48:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Re: Mr. Beef/Omni-Magnum On Fri, 30 May 1997 22:04:28 -0700 SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> wrote: > koolness on summit. i went to their web > site and ordered their cat. they emailed back > saying that it would be a month to get it:( I ordered one a couple of weeks ago and about a week and a half later they sent me the same message. They don't seem to be in any hurry to sell me stuff...[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:02:30 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Flap Top pistons?
no, the OEM pistons for the 73 model year,were dished, or
concave. that was for emmisions. with the dished pistions, and the
73cc heads the comp would be about 8.5. but with better
ignitions, and somewhat better fuel, the compression can
be raised to almost 9.5 on carb motors, without too much knocking.
so i decided to get flatop pistons to raise the comp up
to 9.0!!
Tom Anhalt wrote:
>
> SuperKen wrote:
> >
> > totally stock save for flap top pistons, and a crane RV cam.
> >
>
> FLAP top pistons? Is this a new special speed secret? How do they
> work? Does the top actually have a pivoting flap? Wow.
>
> Tom Anhalt
> <BG>
>
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[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:57:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Re: Reno rain? nonfsj > At 08:41 PM 5/30/97 -0700, you wrote: > I wish! The weatherman came on a few minutes ago & told us of road > closings about an our south of me due to flash flooding. The rain isn't > supposed to let up until Sunday :( It's been a really wet spring here > (pretty bad flooding, similar to the Dakota's, along the Ohio river earlier > this year). I have an uncle that lived in (I believe it was) Gardnerville up until last year. He moved just a matter of days before the big flood went through and completely cleared the campground/trailer park where he was living.[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:11:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Re: Super jacobs On Sat, 31 May 1997 22:49:12 -0700 SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> wrote: > nope, with the 73cc heads, it only comes out > to about 9.0comp. which is fine for 87 octaine CA > gas. but if it does knock under load, i dont hear it > or feel it. but then, maybe u dont anyway!! So they don't knock when they flap, eh? > Moake Brian wrote: > > On Sat, 31 May 1997 18:15:09 -0700 SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> > > wrote: > > > totally stock save for flap top pistons, and a crane RV cam. > > Flap top, eh? Bet they knock like a desiel on steroids!!! ;}[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 00:13:24 -0700 From: Eric Faust <eric-at-INETWORLD.NET> Subject: Re: CA/NV FSJ get together Back in the late 70'searly 80's I used to go wheelin in a buddy of mine's (don't let you kids see this) CJ-5 up in the Sierras. One of my favorite destinations was a place called Deer Valley. It was easy enough that I think a stock FSJ could probably make it in without much problem and probably no (trail inflicted) damage. It's not just a dirt road though, you definitly need 4WD. There was a great camping spot just after a stream crossing (about 2 ft deep, 20 ft wide) at the edge of a huge alpine meadow. I'm hoping to get up there some time this summer but it's an awfully long (and $$$) drive from San Diego, even for a 3 day weekend. Ken, you know this place? I haven't been there since '84 so I'm not sure it's as nice as it once was. I hope to make it to any get togethers, but I don't hold out alot of hope :-( My schedule just isn't real flexible. Eric '89 Grand Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 02:17:07 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: CA/NV FSJ get together
yes i do. the deer valley trail. a S lake tahoe group
runs this trail in august as theri club run. they send
out fliers and get about 100+ vehicles on the trail. but
i got a mess for the club saying that the event will
be canncelled becasue of trail dammage
due to the recent storms, but time will tell!!
im goin to an event near Barstow in october..is that close!!
Eric Faust wrote:
>
> Back in the late 70'searly 80's I used to go wheelin in a buddy of
> mine's (don't let you kids see this) CJ-5 up in the Sierras. One of my
> favorite destinations was a place called Deer Valley. It was easy
> enough that I think a stock FSJ could probably make it in without much
> problem and probably no (trail inflicted) damage. It's not just a dirt
> road though, you definitly need 4WD. There was a great camping spot just
> after a stream crossing (about 2 ft deep, 20 ft wide) at the edge of a
> huge alpine meadow. I'm hoping to get up there some time this summer
> but it's an awfully long (and $$$) drive from San Diego, even for a 3
> day weekend. Ken, you know this place? I haven't been there since '84
> so I'm not sure it's as nice as it once was. I hope to make it to any
> get togethers, but I don't hold out alot of hope :-( My schedule just
> isn't real flexible.
>
> Eric '89 Grand Wagoneer
>
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