Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 13:02:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Chrisharon-at-aol.com Subject: Good evening from Whittier, California I just started reading the FSJ List and have a couple of questions. 1) I'm under the impression that someone out there in Web land has a Cherokee/Wagoneer that they put a 455 in. I also suspect that this is a Buick motor, correct? I'm also a Buick fan and have a '64 Skylark that will be getting a 455 in the next few months. Anyway, my question to you is: What kind of milage do you get with your 455 FSJ??? 2) When off-roading and going down extreme downhills I could use more front-end braking, does anybody know of an upgrade to the front brakes of a '78 Cherokee (It came with disks from the factory)? I've been contemplating swapping in both front and rear diffs from a J-20 truck but don't know how much more beefy the front brakes are. Thanks in advance. Chris from California ('78 Cherokee, 360 (TIRED), TH-400)[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 97 11:01:37 EDT From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) Subject: Re: Old Blue stuttering... Oh, btw, I start the new job down in Issaquah Monday morning. >>>> Good luck, John.[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 97 12:06:15 EDT From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) Subject: Re: Good evening from Whittier, California 1) I'm under the impression that someone out there in Web land has a Cherokee/Wagoneer that they put a 455 in. I also suspect that this is a Buick motor, correct? >>>> That would be me and, yes that is correct, Sir! I don't know as I'm just now getting a B4B and early heads together. I'm curious about that myself! Will let you know next summer(?) as alot of construction is happening in other areas. Brad Feick[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 10:28:16 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: Good evening from Whittier, California Chrisharon-at-aol.com wrote: > > I just started reading the FSJ List and have a couple of questions. > 1) I'm under the impression that someone out there in Web land has a > Cherokee/Wagoneer that they put a 455 in. I also suspect that this is a > Buick motor, correct? I'm also a Buick fan and have a '64 Skylark that will > be getting a 455 in the next few months. Anyway, my question to you is: What > kind of milage do you get with your 455 FSJ??? i dont recall anybody ACTUALLY swapping a 455, but most dream about it :) > 2) When off-roading and going down extreme downhills I could use more > front-end braking, does anybody know of an upgrade to the front brakes of a > '78 Cherokee (It came with disks from the factory)? I've been contemplating > swapping in both front and rear diffs from a J-20 truck but don't know how > much more beefy the front brakes are. the axles on the j20 are WIDER than on ur chero. the difference in the front discs is 1" (12" stock chero, 13" stock j20) u can, as im gonna do, put in rear discs, or as i HAVE done, put in a lo-gear set for the th400. also, bleed out ALL ur ole brake fluid, put in fresh DOT 3 or 4, and make sure their bled correctly!! > Thanks in advance. > Chris from California ('78 Cherokee, 360 (TIRED), TH-400) > > -- Sincerely 'If a Wagoneer can go where a kenneth e. wetherall CJ can go, then it's a kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer'[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 10:42:32 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: Good evening from Whittier, California oh oops :( M_B_FEICK wrote: > > > 1) I'm under the impression that someone out there in Web land has a > Cherokee/Wagoneer that they put a 455 in. I also suspect that this is a > Buick motor, correct? > >>>> > That would be me and, yes that is correct, Sir! I don't know as I'm just now > getting a B4B and early heads together. I'm curious about that myself! Will > let you know next summer(?) as alot of construction is happening in other > areas. > > Brad Feick > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > -- Sincerely 'If a Wagoneer can go where a kenneth e. wetherall CJ can go, then it's a kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer'[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 12:30:42 +0000 From: "john meister" <john-at-> Subject: Re: Snohomish SJ's > Subject: Re: Old Blue - exhausted... > > hi john were you by any chance at a restaurant today about 2:30 with ol = > blue on the southwest side of the river by the bridge that leads out of = > snohomish? cause I saw a jeep that looked like ol blue there when I was = > on my way in to town. I would have stopped to see if it was you but I was= > already 5 minutes late for an appointment. > btw it wasn't d street that i was rear ended on it was 1st street. > bbtw congrats on your new job!! > ALisa Today being Friday? No, Becky and I went to Woodinville in the little wagoneer to the new Chinese resturaunt in what used to be Creekside... I think Old Blue was home at that time. I did take him down to Bellevue in the morning, and then over to Airport Welding, but had him home by 11:30 am... So there's another one like Old Blue? He's kind of unique in that he has a padded vinyl roof, sunroof with deflector and an unusual looking rear carrier with no tire on it right now... later, john ******************************************************** john-at- http://www. ORC-FSJ = http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj) no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace **********************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 12:42:47 +0000 From: "john meister" <john-at-> Subject: Re: three cheers for Timex!!! and the nut behind the wheel... > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 10:33:20 -0400 > From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net> > Subject: y'all AIN'T gonna believe this... > Doc, I believe it. Can you imagine what she'd do if you had that transfer case intact??? I like the part about the chain on top of the air cleaner.... You're lucky you didn't break the driveshaft or an axle... Of course you'll see a reprint of this post in the FSJ-feats, man, doc, we gotta get you a camera!!!! :-) john ******************************************************** john-at- http://www. ORC-FSJ = http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj) no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace **********************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 12:52:33 +0000 From: "john meister" <john-at-> Subject: Re: selected responses... mostly NON-FSJ, delete... > and, has anyone on the list had any dealings with: > Gary Sanders <gws-at-n8emr.nitetech.com> > Gary was on the list for a while... I think he dropped off awhile back because of traffic or cause he was selling his GW. If I remember right, he had a nice white rig... and he was into computers. Other than that??? -------------------------------------------------------- Ref: Chrysler stuff ------------------------ To: fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com cc: (bcc: Steve Rosewarne) Subject: Re: Support Chrysler Pulling Slots From Ellen DeGeneres ..... >just don't know any better. Gay people deserve better. They do not >choose their lifestyle, in fact they are as God made them, and to >target them makes about as much sense as targeting bald people, or >people with brown hair. > >If Jerry Falwell and those like him want to insist that >homosexuality is a sin, they should re-learn one of the basic tenets >of Christianity, as taught by Jesus himself and "Let he who is >without sin cast the first stone." <cut> >Sounds to me like you're willing to trade other people's liberty for >the security of your own lifestyle. Does that mean.......? >Steve Rosewarne Forgiveness and acceptance of the individual who Christ died for is one thing. But acceptance of the sin is another. Christ also told that adultress to GO AND SIN NO MORE. I don't care if you're Jerry Falwell, a Jim Baker, a Jim Jones, the most liberal "God is Love" biblically unaware Social Gospel "Christian" with a "cut-n-paste" theology blessing all kinds of things the Bible condemns, or just a plain old hick that can read God's Word, YOU MUST BALANCE SCRIPTURE AND HANDLE IT WISELY if you're gonna claim it all... It's a good thing to serve those in need and care about them. But what do you do about this?: Rom 1:22-28 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,... (NAS) ----- Remember when I shared that post I left it OPEN for anyone with either view to let Chrysler know what they felt, I didn't say go and bash (insert whatever label you prefer here). Name calling doesn't do anyone any good. All sides of an issue have a right to state their case, that was the intent of making everyone aware of the opportunity. But sin is sin and the grossest sins are even recognized by those who have little or no light. On the other hand, to group everyone together on either side of the issue carte blanche isn't right either. Recognizing that with as many of us as there are on the list there will be differing views. When an issue of social concern comes up, it's important for us to know and make our opinions known. WE ALL NEED TO BE CAREFUL when posting any social or political issue that we provide the opportunity for those with whom we disagree to fairly voice their opinions too. BALANCE is important. I don't like it sometimes when it goes against what I want or believe, but if whatever it that I believe is TRUE, it will prevail. It's amazing how we can rationalize things, cognitive dissonance is an amazing thing. Tobacco company executives might even relate smoking to eating Gummy Bears, ya just never know... For me, the only absolute in this world is the Word of God, so on issues like this, it's pretty cut and dried, but that doesn't give me the right to knock someone upside the noggin' with the Book or call names... reconciliation AND repentance is the preferred approach, as displayed by Christ. ----------------------------------------------------------------- THE NATURAL LIFE CYCLE OF MAILING LISTS I enjoyed the non-FSJ post about list maturity.... We've been at level 4 for a long, long time, but we're creeping toward level 5, unfortunately... actually we've been in and out for a while... but if you disagree with me, I'll just quit the list... <grin> (just kidding... :-) ----------------------------- Doc, you and Timex are quite a team... You are nuts, but that's what makes you doc... You HAVE to get that transfer case fixed, just think, with all those sinkholes down there you may have to extract a freight train or something... :-) ----------------------------- So, let's get back to our regularly scheduled FSJ content and let this topic alone... no more bashing and no more holier than thou stuff... cool? I was gonna talk about Old Blue, but I'll send a "clean" message and hope y'all forget about the other topics for a while... and, for the RECORD, the Buick engine stuff is RELEVANT to all of us. Anything technical that we can apply toward our FSJ's is good stuff. later, johh[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 16:26:26 -0400 From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net> Subject: 1892 Wago Gee, how do you think *I* feel about it? <blush>. Oh, well, guess it'll stay that way, for now at least... <snicker>. >I am pleased to see myself on the IFSJ web site. Doc did a great job of >translating my muddled text into the web. One thing, I guess I did a >poor job of proof reading because my Wagoneer is old but NOT that old! >re:"This describes a 1892 Wagoneer ...." | | | | | ============= | 0_| / \ |_o |_|_____----+-----____|_| |====|=====|=====|====| ||____|_____|_____|____|| \_____|___|DOC|___|_____/ |\/\/|--------\_/--|\/\/| ______|\/\/|_____________|\/\/|______ Home of the "Bottomless Transfer Case" _____________________________________ email: fariello-at-inspace.net http://www.inspace.net/~fariello/fsj _____________________________________[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 16:32:35 -0400 From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net> Subject: Re: The life cycle of an email list Heck, Brian, we've already been through the whole thing... we're in stage 6b, far as I'm concerned... and this episode has been MUCH milder than others we've encountered. It'll be ok, I'm sure. >I just found this and thought it was kind of amusing. I figure we just >moved from 4 to 5 in the last few weeks. Hopefully we'll go the 6b route >rather than the 6a way. | | | | | ============= | 0_| / \ |_o |_|_____----+-----____|_| |====|=====|=====|====| ||____|_____|_____|____|| \_____|___|DOC|___|_____/ |\/\/|--------\_/--|\/\/| ______|\/\/|_____________|\/\/|______ Home of the "Bottomless Transfer Case" _____________________________________ email: fariello-at-inspace.net http://www.inspace.net/~fariello/fsj _____________________________________[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 16:39:00 -0400 From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net> Subject: Re: Kevin's QT I dunno, Kevin... I was about two days away from ordering the new chain for mine when it bound up and took out the bottom of the case. Sure was easy to yank the old one! <laugh>. >Is the TC Chain replacement a tough job?? The Chilton's makes it sound >kinda easy. > | | | | | ============= | 0_| / \ |_o |_|_____----+-----____|_| |====|=====|=====|====| ||____|_____|_____|____|| \_____|___|DOC|___|_____/ |\/\/|--------\_/--|\/\/| ______|\/\/|_____________|\/\/|______ Home of the "Bottomless Transfer Case" _____________________________________ email: fariello-at-inspace.net http://www.inspace.net/~fariello/fsj _____________________________________[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 15:51:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Re: selected responses... mostly NON-FSJ, delete... On Sat, 3 May 1997, john meister wrote: > -------------------------------------------------------- > Ref: Chrysler stuff > ------------------------ > >just don't know any better. Gay people deserve better. They do not > >choose their lifestyle, in fact they are as God made them, and to > >target them makes about as much sense as targeting bald people, or > >people with brown hair. > >If Jerry Falwell and those like him want to insist that > >homosexuality is a sin, they should re-learn one of the basic tenets > >of Christianity, as taught by Jesus himself and "Let he who is > >without sin cast the first stone." > <cut> > >Sounds to me like you're willing to trade other people's liberty for > >the security of your own lifestyle. Does that mean.......? > >Steve Rosewarne > Forgiveness and acceptance of the individual who Christ > died for is one thing. But acceptance of the sin is another. Christ > also told that adultress to GO AND SIN NO MORE. I don't care if > you're Jerry Falwell, a Jim Baker, a Jim Jones, the most liberal > "God is Love" biblically unaware Social Gospel "Christian" with a > "cut-n-paste" theology blessing all kinds of things the Bible > condemns, or just a plain old hick that can read God's Word, > YOU MUST BALANCE SCRIPTURE AND HANDLE IT WISELY > if you're gonna claim it all... For any of you that missed 20/20 last night the Rev. Billy Graham(sp?) was asked about homosexuality and his reply was: homosexuality is a sin just as greed, hate, etc... and one sin should not be singled out more than another. > Tobacco company executives might even relate smoking to > eating Gummy Bears, ya just never know... I see you saw the 60min preview...[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 15:53:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Re: 1892 Wago On Sat, 3 May 1997, Dennis M. "Doc" Fariello wrote: > | > | > | | > | ============= | > 0_| / \ |_o > |_|_____----+-----____|_| > |====|=====|=====|====| > ||____|_____|_____|____|| > \_____|___|DOC|___|_____/ > |\/\/|--------\_/--|\/\/| > ______|\/\/|_____________|\/\/|______ > > Home of the "Bottomless Transfer Case" > _____________________________________ > What is this about a bottomless transfer case???[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 16:30:46 -0500 From: "Sc0" <jjd-at-flex.net> Subject: good speed/economy fer me.. '72 J4000 5.9l AMC 360, 2bbl 3 speed Hydramatic 400 gears? tires are 235/85 R16 What is the top, (best), speed to go without putting a strain on the transmission, stall converter, (donut thing connected to the flywheel), engine? Since the engine has never been rebuilt I don't want to push it. (it broke 1 pushrod , and was replaced) What speed whould I go to get better gas mileage? (I do anywhere around 60- 85 mph on the freeway, and a little "racing".) "Who are we?" Sc0[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:09:53 PST From: dr_kaiser-at-juno.com (Ryan S. Kyle) Subject: Lift blocks on front When reading through many of my four wheeling magazines, I notice that lift blocks on the front are looked down upon (to the point that Four Wheeler says they won't feature a vehicle with lift blocks on the front). They never say why though. They're perfectly fine on the back, so why isn't it the same for the front? I'm sorry if this is common knowledge to most of you, but everyone automatically assumes everyone else knows. Thanks, Ryan[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:14:28 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: D20 swap At 09:35 PM 5/1/97 EDT, you wrote: >No hurry,Ive had for a while....Noone ever asks about it so I just hang on >to it. >>>>>> >Well *I'm* askin'! > > shifting levers where they are connected need a >little work >>>>> >Meaning what. they are a little thin or worn and have to be welded and ground >to shape? > Its the way they are designed...Its kind of hard to explain.The case has two selector rods to engage 2-4 wheel and hi-lo....They protrude out with notches in them.The shifting levers itself ride in these notches.If new bushings are installed and the ends of the levers are heated and bent(A LITTLE)where it rides in the notch it will be fine. The only reason I do not run it is because the shifting levers mount DIRECTLY to the case.Where my present shifter is mounted to 12 in long extensions so my shifter will be where I would like it to be. >I would put new bushings in the pivot points to keep the levers from >moving side to side.I looked at the gears and they are fine. >>>>>> >Sounds like I gotta have it. Are the bushings available? Have you seen PTOs >for those things? > I dunno about parts like that...You may have to contact someone from a Intl.Harvester club. >Just give me a shout when you can......I need a 360 like a hole in the >head...... >>>> >or maybe you need one to want one > >BUT I will take a 401.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yea right.. >>>> >OH did I say 360? > >Brad Feick > >Let me know...I can send it Yellow Frieght to ya.I do it all the time. > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 20:17:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Help!, I can't get it up!!! Does anyone know how to pop the hood on my 85 G Wag? The lever under the dash doesn't do anything. It worked before. My secondary latch was all bent up so it wouldn't catch... I stretched it out so it would catch and found out why it was deformed. Now, I just need to get the hood up so I can bend the secondary out of the way.[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:43:04 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: More leak info. At 06:11 PM 5/2/97 EDT, you wrote: >Probably some Union flunky doing a crummy job because he is unfirable, >unpunishable, and un-competent. I apologize if this offends anybody but it >*is* the case. I suppose I'll fix it since I give a damn about quality. >>>>>>>> >**AMEN!!* I am a supervisor in a union shop, and these dreamers think >everybody makes this kind of money, and everything is the company's fault. It >is really disgusting. > >Brad Feick > And Im a Manager at a Goodyear store sitting around wondering if we are going to have tires in two weeks or not.......Everything has been put on backorder status since know one knows when the STRIKE will be over. Billy 79,80 J10[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 21:34:55 +0000 From: "Russ Wylie" <rwylie-at-mail4.voicenet.com> Subject: Re: A lurker surfaces and stuff > Reply-to: fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com > Date: 02 May 97 23:07:30 EDT > From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-compuserve.com> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: A lurker surfaces and stuff > >> I have been lurking on the list now for a couple of days, and just > want to say I'm 18 and I love jeeps. >> (Mombo snip) << So e-mail me if you > want to trade or find one for sale. All the ones around here are beat. > > Thanks, > Russ << > > Hello Russ, I wondered where in the country you are located (City and state). > I'm 60 miles north of San Francisco in Napa and occasionally see a pickup for > sale. Oh, I'm 18 too :>, from what you have said It sounds as if you are in new > england. > > Karl Streich I'm actually just north of Philly. but close.[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:54:50 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: Good evening from Whittier, California > >the axles on the j20 are WIDER than on ur chero. the difference in the front >discs is 1" (12" stock chero, 13" stock j20) u can, as im gonna do, >put in rear discs, or as i HAVE done, put in a lo-gear set for the th400. > KEN Where did you get your lo gear set for your tranny??Ive seen them advertised thru TCI but never commanded the strength to ask HOW MUCH??I also wondered if you have a problem with breaking front axles since our set ups are close in the same.If you are,are you purchasing axles thru aftermarket??I have looked into trying to find aftermarket axles that are better than OEM but cant seem to find any.I brake at least one axle every other trail trip.I break them on the shaft itself not by the u-joint. Another question is do you run a 60 rear?If so where did you find rear discs? Thanks GUY and GOOD LUCK...My vote is in...BUT I voted for u Before I came to this list. Billy 79,80J10 >also, bleed out ALL ur ole brake fluid, put in fresh DOT 3 or 4, and make >sure their bled correctly!! > > >> Thanks in advance. >> Chris from California ('78 Cherokee, 360 (TIRED), TH-400) >> >> > >-- > Sincerely > 'If a Wagoneer can go where a > kenneth e. wetherall CJ can go, then it's a > kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer' > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 18:50:32 PDT From: "Mike Hill" <wagoneer79-at-hotmail.com> Subject: Low Range and other Q's I'm new to this list and have a few questions. 1)I was out driving and put it in low range, I started off and went about 25 mph. The thing is, it wouldn't shift out of first. Is this normal? My Jeep is a 1979 Wagoneer that is bone stock. 2)I need a 1piece rear bumper. I looked at the junkyard, but all they had were 3 piece bumpers. 3)What is the thing in the engine that says "tach test"? It is next to the air cleaner and has a wire going to the distributer. If anyones interested there are two or three Wagoneers for sale up here, I may be able to get you some info. --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 19:09:43 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: Lift blocks on front side load!!! take a moment to think of the side load that the front diff , the spring pad, encounters when u make a corner!! if the blocks are loose at ANY time, the can become dislodged, and u have a runaway front diff and tradegy!! blocks r ok for the rear because the rear does no encounter the side loads that the front does! Ryan S. Kyle wrote: > > When reading through many of my four wheeling magazines, I notice that > lift blocks on the front are looked down upon (to the point that Four > Wheeler says they won't feature a vehicle with lift blocks on the > front). They never say why though. They're perfectly fine on the back, > so why isn't it the same for the front? I'm sorry if this is common > knowledge to most of you, but everyone automatically assumes everyone > else knows. > > Thanks, > > Ryan > -- Sincerely 'If a Wagoneer can go where a kenneth e. wetherall CJ can go, then it's a kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer'[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 19:19:30 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Billy!! billy dunn wrote: > > KEN Where did you get your lo gear set for your tranny??Ive seen them > advertised thru TCI but never commanded the strength to ask HOW MUCH?? the 2.75 first in my th400 was ther when i bought it second hand. at the time the gear set was made by a gent named John Kilgore. but BM and tci make them and the kits r $600+, not including install. >I also > wondered if you have a problem with breaking front axles since our set ups > are close in the same.If you are,are you purchasing axles thru > aftermarket??I have looked into trying to find aftermarket axles that are > better than OEM but cant seem to find any.I brake at least one axle every > other trail trip. whr do u wheel?? what size tire, what RP ratio, u got a monster motor?? >I break them on the shaft itself not by the u-joint. the outer shaft on the tire side, or the inner shaft on the diff side?? > Another question is do you run a 60 rear? no, d44 F n R! >If so where did you find rear discs? many companies have conversion kits for the 60 and the d44, stanless steel brake and tsm come to mind. look in the back of the 4x4 mags for them. > Thanks GUY and GOOD LUCK...My vote is in...BUT I voted for u Before I came > to this list. thanks just the same! :) > Billy > 79,80J10 > -- Sincerely 'If a Wagoneer can go where a kenneth e. wetherall CJ can go, then it's a kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer'[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 19:26:05 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: Low Range and other Q's during diagnostic work, the mech would hook up a tachometer to this wire to monitor engine revs!! Mike Hill wrote: > > 3)What is the thing in the engine that says "tach test"? It is next to the air > cleaner and has a wire going to the distributer. > > If anyones interested there are two or three Wagoneers for sale up here, I > may be able to get you some info. where r they, and what r they! > -- Sincerely 'If a Wagoneer can go where a kenneth e. wetherall CJ can go, then it's a kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer'[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 19:51:59 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: Billy!! At 07:19 PM 5/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >billy dunn wrote: >> >> KEN Where did you get your lo gear set for your tranny??Ive seen them >> advertised thru TCI but never commanded the strength to ask HOW MUCH?? > >the 2.75 first in my th400 was ther when i bought it second hand. >at the time the gear set was made by a gent named John Kilgore. >but BM and tci make them and the kits r $600+, not including >install. > Yea Thats what I figured on the dollar amount.. :(I cant see putting in that much.Even if labor is free. >>I also >> wondered if you have a problem with breaking front axles since our set ups >> are close in the same.If you are,are you purchasing axles thru >> aftermarket??I have looked into trying to find aftermarket axles that are >> better than OEM but cant seem to find any.I brake at least one axle every >> other trail trip. > >whr do u wheel?? what size tire, what RP ratio, u got a monster motor?? > Commonly I wheel in Sumter National Forest here in Edgefield and McCormick SC. I also go to Tellico(MURPHY)NC which everyone is there RIGHT NOW!!! :((( I run 36in Swampers going up to 38x14.5 real soon. I currently run 4.56s. >>I break them on the shaft itself not by the u-joint. > >the outer shaft on the tire side, or the inner shaft on the diff side?? >Uhhhh I have done it to both sides But mostly at the diff or right in the center. >> Another question is do you run a 60 rear? > >no, d44 F n R! >That is what I had until my right rear tire and axle came out and crossed over the bed and went to the left side and passed me when I was goin 70mph. >>If so where did you find rear discs? > >many companies have conversion kits for the 60 and the d44, stanless >steel brake and tsm come to mind. look in the back of the 4x4 mags for them. My rearend came from a 72 Dodge W300 and they have told me that they do not have a kit available for it.My drums are small compared to other Full Floating 60s.They are like 11x2 or some thing similar...cant remember right off the bat. >> Thanks GUY and GOOD LUCK...My vote is in...BUT I voted for u Before I came >> to this list. > >thanks just the same! :) > >> Billy >> 79,80J10 >> -- > Sincerely > 'If a Wagoneer can go where a > kenneth e. wetherall CJ can go, then it's a > kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer' > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 22:27:17 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Billy!! yea 36 n 38 r big for a d44, i cant remember, u j20 or chero?? billy dunn wrote: > > I run 36in Swampers going up to 38x14.5 real soon. > I currently run 4.56s. > -- Sincerely 'If a Wagoneer can go where a kenneth e. wetherall CJ can go, then it's a kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer'[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 00:57:21 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: Visit to Indy Joe's Got back from the S. Bend swap meet with a little bit of money left over. Found to get a few goodies for the Lark & managed to not buy any more cars :) As expected, talked to a couple of fellow fsj'ers who also have Studie's (one is a friend that I'd forgoten about his J10 affliction :) ). Neither are on the web yet but said they'd find a way to check out the sites. The new fella I met is from Michigan & he has a wagon & j10. He was impressed with the parts book I got from Zack (BTW Zack, I gave him your address & he said he'll write you for one). I gave him one of the decals I got from Joe. On the way home, I stopped to drop off a windshield at Joe's house. Unfortunately I missed him & met Joe Jr. (sorry Joe, I forgot his name). He's the one who made the decals. Sounds like he has a cool job making the graphics which go on the Indy 500 cars. Did get a glimpse of the Cherokee with the plow mount. Another wierd thing is the '66 impala. I put a zillion miles on a '66 hardtop when I was younger. That was one of my favorite cars. Joe, it looks like your son will have a nice ride when the convertible is done. BTW JOe, If you don't like the glass (it has some fogging at the bottom I'd forgotten about) let me know & I'll pick it up whenever I'm passing thru again. No hurry on my part. Mike Saltsgaver.[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 01:10:52 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: Owners manuals While at the Studebaker swap meet, I found a vendor who owns a '78 J10 Honcho. He also has FSJ owners manuals for the following years: '80, 81, 82, 83, & '84. They sell for $8.00 each (I bought one for my new '83). He also has some O.E. decals which he called air cleaner stickers (but maybe were valve cover decals). The V8 ones say "4 barrel 360" or "4 barrel 401" (the numbers are much larger than the text). There weren't any "258" ones but he did have "232's". They measure approx. 1 1/2 x 4. He sell them for $1.50. I got one & will check out where it fits best before getting anymore. Let me know if anyones interested & I'll look up his number & address. Mike Saltsgaver.[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 23:44:38 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: Billy!! At 10:27 PM 5/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >yea 36 n 38 r big for a d44, i cant remember, u >j20 or chero?? > J10 with a 60 rear,basically the same set up as yours.... My 360 is a little beefed up...I run forged pistons a comp cam 270 with a Edelbrock and a holley 600 vac. sec with Hedman headers with 1.75 pipes to 3 in dumps to flowmasters. The heads are ported and polished with some bowl blending.Msd ignition. I built the 400 just like a TCI unit.....and a 13in converter.... >billy dunn wrote: >> >> I run 36in Swampers going up to 38x14.5 real soon. >> I currently run 4.56s. >> -- > Sincerely > 'If a Wagoneer can go where a > kenneth e. wetherall CJ can go, then it's a > kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer' > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 23:50:01 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: Visit to Indy Joe's A >Another wierd thing is the '66 impala. I put a zillion miles on a '66 >hardtop when I was younger. That was one of my favorite cars. Joe, it >looks like your son will have a nice ride when the convertible is done. > >Mike Saltsgaver. > OHHH A 66 Impala???????I have a 66 Caprice SS,327 2spd glide,buckets with console shifter,factory gauges,air,power disc brakes,tilt(TELESCOPTIC),with the speaker in the middle of the rear seat..... My brother has a 66 Impala 396,400,air,and the goodies... Both have been in the family since new,Grandad bought both new. Sorry it wasnt a FSJ post but I do love then 66s. Billy 79,80J10[Back to Top]
Date: 04 May 97 03:11:22 EDT From: Edwin Pedersen <102551.2631-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: (No subject)/Eric Knapp Eric Knapp asked; >Would anyone know where i could get sheetmetal for my 83 cherokee >widetrack? Trying to plan summer project. Looking for driver side rear >quarter panel. any help would be appreciated. eek Eric, Joe Sego and I had this discussion a little while ago. JC Whitney advertised this panels for our beasts a couple months back. If you need me too find the article, let me know.. Eddie in Vancouver (who is suffering through a bout of bronchitus and feeling like one of those sandbags on the news)[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:42:58 -0500 From: "Sc0" <jjd-at-flex.net> Subject: Re: Visit to Indy Joe's >BTW JOe, If you don't like the glass (it has some fogging at the bottom I'd >forgotten about) let me know & I'll pick it up whenever I'm passing thru >again. No hurry on my part. > >Mike Saltsgaver. > Is their a way to cure the fog effect?[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 09:55:52 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Billy!! not like mine, im just a wagoneer with a GM v8 and 12 th400. iv swapped out OEM weak componants for later stronger ones, but nothing like a d60! billy dunn wrote: > > At 10:27 PM 5/3/97 -0700, you wrote: > >yea 36 n 38 r big for a d44, i cant remember, u > >j20 or chero?? > > > J10 with a 60 rear,basically the same set up as yours.... > My 360 is a little beefed up...I run forged pistons a comp cam 270 with a > Edelbrock and a holley 600 vac. sec with Hedman headers with 1.75 pipes to 3 > in dumps to flowmasters. > The heads are ported and polished with some bowl blending.Msd ignition. > I built the 400 just like a TCI unit.....and a 13in converter.... > -- Sincerely 'If a Wagoneer can go where a kenneth e. wetherall CJ can go, then it's a kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer'[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 14:02:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Chrisharon-at-aol.com Subject: Parts book from Zack ??? What information is contained in this parts book, anyway? Add-on goodies or what?[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 16:12:43 +0000 From: "Russ Wylie" <rwylie-at-mail4.voicenet.com> Subject: I DID IT!!!!! Dear SJ friends, Today I finished routing the hardlines in my '71 Cj-5. You have no idea how much grief that this has given me. Now, I am one step closer to finiding an SJ. Only problem is, it's hard to find an Sj with a manual tranny. Any idea's why? Russ[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 14:45:02 PST From: irv.lee-at-juno.com (Irv S Lee) Subject: Re: Owners manuals I've been lurching for a few days now, I picked up a 83 JGW and need a manual for it I have to rebuild the motor, a 258, that has 230,000 miles on it. Any info will be appreciated. I want to use it as a fishing vehicle. Should I drop a V8 in it. I think It's just a bolt up, if I stay with amc 304/ 360. Thank's for the help Steve Lee Irv.lee-at-juno.com[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 16:37:34 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: Billy!! At 09:55 AM 5/4/97 -0700, you wrote: >not like mine, im just a wagoneer with a GM v8 and 12 th400. >iv swapped out OEM weak componants for later stronger >ones, but nothing like a d60! > > I like the d60 just dont like the 8 lug though....I have a semi floating 60 that is 5x5.5 lug but I like the floater better.Now I have found a 60 front with 4.56s and Im thinking about buying it and doing a spring over.For 400.00 I cant beat a deal like that.What kind of problems did you face while doing a spring over??I know this GM d60 front is going to be different than my current 44 set up.I guess I am going to have to make up some steering linkage and use heim joints for tie rod ends...what do you think about that???I have done that with race cars that never see the streets but I dont know about it on a street setup.Then I am faced with front wheels...I run 15x10 and if I go to a fr60 then I'll have a problem with the wheels hitting the calipers dont you think???I dont like the idea of running 16.5 wheels either and they dont make much for 16 in tires yet.... I went out and took some pics of it today a little crossed up and got a scanner BUT I dont know how to put them on a the net...Any suggestions?? Thanks, Billy 79,80J10[Back to Top]
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