Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:12:20 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Rubicon trail CA, May 17, 1997
> > Friday night we can either eat on the road or
> >> ???????? I'm open.....
> >
> >fast food upon arrival ok??
>
> Perfect.
kool
> >
> Who'd have thought a 12 mile trail could cause all this fuss... ;-)
cant repair broken parts on an empty stomach ;)
> Cackle fruit you, Pig strips me....
kool 2
> >
> >
> >oh!!! bring a small batch of firewood, and a bag of 'fist'
> >sized potatoes. we have a 'potatoe' cannon!! ;)
>
> Now *that* could be fun....
>
> It sounds like the trip is coming together nicely! Three more days until
> we leave !!!! I can't WAIT.
>
> I'm working on a video camera, too. :-)
awsome!!!!
--
Sincerely
kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a
kenns-at-concentric.net CJ can go, then it's a
Super Wagoneer.
[Back to Top]Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:13:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney <karaandmick-at-mail.telis.org> Subject: Re: Square=Unleaded, Round=Leaded? At 02:43 PM 5/13/97 -0500, you wrote: >*in reply to Chrisharon's memo > >>>>I've got a '78 Cherokee and it does indeed run Unleaded & have the fill >pipe restrictor. ><snip> > >Is your 78 Cherokee a California version? I always thought square >headlights (79 and later) = unleaded and catlytic converters. Round >headlights (78 and before) = leaded and no catlytic converter. > >Do I have this right? Is this true for all 50 states, 49 states, or were >there other exceptions in addition to California? > >Anyone else out there with an unleaded 78 or before? > >Thanks >Dave Dave, I've got a '75 and '76 wagoneer and both owner's manuals allow leaded or unleaded fuel. The fuel opening is round, (as with the headlights!). I'm not sure when the cat was used, I think it may have been 77 up. As a point of interest, the 304 V8s sold in CJs would run on unleaded ONLY (75 year) (according to the service manual). These also had cats (V8 only). Anyway, hope this complicates your life a bit more :> mick BTW, the difference with CA models for that period appear to be the fuel canister and egr exhaust back pressure sensor.[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:46:49 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Points Replacement Tom said- <snip> >might be something worth checking into. Also, I looked in my J.C. >Whitney catalog and found the same item...so I ordered it! It's called >the Petronix Ignitor and Whitney has it for about $70. I just installed >it last night on the Buick's 300 (a forerunner of the 340 and 350) and >it was a pretty simple installation. Hardest part was measuring some >clearances and luckily I didn't have to make any adjustments whatsoever Tom is right one here...bought one last spring for my Vette, works great and still looks all original except for one additional wire. I bought mine from Summit, no way does JC Whit get any of my $$ C'ya Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:53:40 -0700 From: Dan Matheny <dmatheny-at-mutoh.com> Subject: RE: Re: Square=Unleaded, Round=Leaded? >>I've got a '78 Cherokee and it does indeed run Unleaded & have the fill >>pipe restrictor. >><snip> >> >>Is your 78 Cherokee a California version? I always thought square >>headlights (79 and later) = unleaded and catalytic converters. Round >>headlights (78 and before) = leaded and no catalytic converter. >> >>Do I have this right? Is this true for all 50 states, 49 states, or were >>there other exceptions in addition to California? >> >>Anyone else out there with an unleaded 78 or before? >> >>Thanks >>Dave >Dave, I've got a '75 and '76 wagoneer and both owner's manuals allow leaded >or unleaded fuel. The fuel >opening is round, (as with the headlights!). I'm not sure when the cat was >used, I think it may have been 77 up. No cat or restrictor in my 49 states '77 J20 w/360. >As a point of interest, the 304 V8s sold in CJs would run on unleaded ONLY >(75 year) (according to the service manual). These also had cats (V8 only). >Anyway, hope this complicates your life a bit more :> >mick >BTW, the difference with CA models for that period appear to be the fuel >canister and egr exhaust back pressure sensor. C Ya, Dan Matheny '77J20, 360, QT; '95 ZJ Laredo, 318, QT[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:05:56 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: RE: Re: Square=Unleaded, Round=Leaded? > >No cat or restrictor in my 49 states '77 J20 w/360. My 78 J-10 is unleaded only and has a cat. AMC probably followed GM and others, anything over 1/2 ton was leaded fuel. joe- 79 chief[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:30:51 -0400 From: Kevin LaRue <osfoo-at-megalink.net> Subject: Re: Points Replacement [from Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net>:] > . . . >distributor. At about the same time, I noticed in a Buick restoration >parts catalog (Year One) the same product. At that time I figured it >might be something worth checking into. Also, I looked in my J.C. >Whitney catalog and found the same item...so I ordered it! It's called >the Petronix Ignitor and Whitney has it for about $70. I just installed > . . . [from Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com>:] >Tom is right one here...bought one last spring for my Vette, >works great and still looks all original except for one additional >wire. I bought mine from Summit, no way does JC Whit get any of my $$ I'm interested in one of these for my Buick 350. Like Joe, however, I refuse to have anything to do with JC Whitney. So, could someone (Tom, perhaps) point me to Year One? Could someone (Joe, perhaps) point me to Summit? Any other suggested sources? Thanks, guys! Be seeing you! Kevin LaRue Osfoo PO Box 62, Peru, Maine 04290 (207)665-2348 osfoo-at-megalink.net[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:35:14 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Points Replacement SuperKen wrote: > > what would have prevented u from just replacing the whole > dist w/ a HEI unit?? price? OEM look? > Pretty much both. Since it's a "collector" car and is basically in original condition, I like to keep it looking stock. I even run whitewalls on it. I also didn't see any reason for going to the HEI if I eventually was going to swap the Jacobs over to it. It seemed to be the minimum amount of hassle...that's all. Tom Anhalt[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:51:33 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Points Replacement Kevin LaRue wrote: > > [from Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net>:] > > . . . > >distributor. At about the same time, I noticed in a Buick restoration > >parts catalog (Year One) the same product. At that time I figured it > >might be something worth checking into. Also, I looked in my J.C. > >Whitney catalog and found the same item...so I ordered it! It's called > >the Petronix Ignitor and Whitney has it for about $70. I just installed > > . . . > > [from Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com>:] > >Tom is right one here...bought one last spring for my Vette, > >works great and still looks all original except for one additional > >wire. I bought mine from Summit, no way does JC Whit get any of my $$ > > I'm interested in one of these for my Buick 350. Like Joe, however, I > refuse to have anything to do with JC Whitney. So, could someone (Tom, > perhaps) point me to Year One? Could someone (Joe, perhaps) point me to > Summit? Any other suggested sources? Thanks, guys! > I have the latest Summit catalog and I don't recall seeing it in there. Joe? Summit has a web site (I think it's www.summit.com or something, just use a search engine to find it) and Year One advertises in things like Hemmings Motor News. I've got the phone number at home. Their catalog is $5 but they refund it on the first order. Pretty cool company. I called them just last week when I was trying to find a "windlace end cap" (an interior piece). Their Buick catalog didn't show it but their other "A" body catalogs showed the same piece being used on every other GM "A" car. The guy I talked to spent over 15 minutes with me trying to figure out if this piece would fit. Very helpful. Also, this is the first place I ever ordered from where, as they were asking me for my address, credit card #, etc. he asked "what's your T-shirt size" for future promotions. I thought that was kind of cool. I'll try to post their 800 number later tonight. For any of you with Buick Powered FSJs, Year One could be a good source for engine parts...even though most of the parts are geared towards restoration. Heck...you can even order reproduction, original style spark plug wires that have the correct date code to match your vehicle's date of manufacture!!...Sheesh. They also have reproductions of the old Delco-Remy Tar-top batteries so your restoration can be COMPLETE. The most ridiculous thing I saw in the catalog is reproductions of the drum brake shoes that have the correct date code stamped on the sides of the shoes!!! Who would ever see that, even at a concours judging? Tom Anhalt[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:23:41 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Points Replacement >though most of the parts are geared towards restoration. Heck...you can >even order reproduction, original style spark plug wires that have the >correct date code to match your vehicle's date of >manufacture!!...Sheesh. They also have reproductions of the old >Delco-Remy Tar-top batteries so your restoration can be COMPLETE. The >most ridiculous thing I saw in the catalog is reproductions of the drum >brake shoes that have the correct date code stamped on the sides of the >shoes!!! Who would ever see that, even at a concours judging? > OFF TOPIC REPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DELETE NOW OR DO NOT COMPLAIN Tom, I belong to the NCRS (National Corvette Restorer's Society) These guys are vicious! yes, plugs, wires, bolts, belts, tires, batteries etc better be as it left the factory or you lose points. Many guys lose points for having the fiberglass body too perfect! the original glass had waves and dips. Actually these guys aren't that bad, they /we are interested in keeping Vettes as close to original as possible. A joke amoung the club is having a device to test the air in the tires...."hey, this air is from 1982, NOT 1965 as it should be!!" C'ya joe- >Tom Anhalt[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:26:36 -0700 From: Gordon McKenzie <gordmck-at-direct.ca> Subject: Re: Square=Unleaded, Round=Leaded? > As a point of interest, the 304 V8s sold in CJs would run on unleaded ONLY > (75 year) (according to the service manual). These also had cats (V8 only). > Anyway, hope this complicates your life a bit more :> Course in Canada (According to the Jeep dealership in Eddie's neck of the woods) no CJ ever had a cat and my 81 Wagoneer did not come with a cat. Not sure if they are correct, but I have found nothing to prove them wrong.[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:30:31 -0700 From: Gordon McKenzie <gordmck-at-direct.ca> Subject: Front spring bushings. Has anyone done their front spring hanger bushings? I have one that is toast but was just told they need to be pressed out and it's a four hour job. I'm going to do them myself but am wondering what kinda tools are reqired. I figure a big C clamp and a big socket will do but I'm just guessing at this point. Gord[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:30:46 -0700 From: Mike Bythewood <bythwood-at-king.cts.com> Subject: Re: AMC Limo... Thought you might be interested to know that the owner of Rancho Jeep in San Diego, Jim Williams, has a Grand Wagoneer Limo. At least he did a couple of years back. Bythewood[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:18:40 -0500 From: "Jeff Hess" <jhess169-at-edgerton.mn.frontiercomm.net> Subject: Re: Gas milage > > Is anybody getting say 14mpg or better out of a 360 (or larger) in one of > these machines? If so, under what conditions and what mods have you done? I have been getting about 14 mpg with my 1988 GW. The highest mileage that I have got was 15.5 mpg on a long trip. The vehicle is totally stock, the only possible factor in the mileage is the rebuilt carb under the hood. I have the 360 with the 727. Jeff Hess 1988 Grand Wagoneer http://edgerton.mn.frontiercomm.net/~jhess169/welcome.htm[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:23:33 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: Re: Points Replacement >Joe S. Wrote: > >OFF TOPIC REPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DELETE NOW OR DO NOT COMPLAIN > >Tom, >I belong to the NCRS (National Corvette Restorer's Society) These >guys are vicious! yes, plugs, wires, bolts, belts, tires, batteries >etc better be as it left the factory or you lose points. > >Many guys lose points for having the fiberglass body too perfect! >the original glass had waves and dips. Actually these guys aren't >that bad, they /we are interested in keeping Vettes as close to >original as possible. > >A joke amoung the club is having a device to test the air in the >tires...."hey, this air is from 1982, NOT 1965 as it should be!!" > >C'ya >joe- > That's why I belong to the Studebaker Driver's Club. The emphasis is on "drivers"! We do have concours judging and there is some bickering, but most of us put more value on the amount of bugs collected from a long distance participant rather than if a certain bolt was plated or painted. Although I've never been to one, I'd think a "jeep-in" would score points for the most boulder induced dents or xfer case shrapnel :) Mike Saltsgaver.[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:58:33 PDT From: "wallace rees" <seerlaw-at-hotmail.com> Subject: Hey I just checked my mail, it's been all most two weeks since I checked. Boy you guys have done a lot. I just finished flushing the cooling sys. and lubed everthing up. Now I've got to rub some scraches I put in the right side , from some scrub oak bushes, when I was following a motorcycle trail. It was fun any way. I had to put brakes on my wife's little car a chev sprit a couple days ago. Well I made a mistake and let her drive the jeep, while I worked on the sprint. She didn't want her car back. She enjoyed being in somthing with power and the size. He car was fixed quite quickly, but correctly. Of course I had to put gas in it. It was interesting to hear about the ftc and splitfire, slick 50 and stp. I allways thought they were to good to be true. Any one heard anything about prolong good or bad. Joe I havn't got my stickers yet. Going to wear through the glass where I keep cleaning it, if they don't get here. I've been having problems with pinging with reg. unleaded. I've been following the spec. in my chilton book, I assumed the manufactor and the book where the same. I deceided to look at the sticked under the hood, behold they were different. Chiltom had the timimg at 13 deg. where as the sticker was at 16 +- 2 deg. It made a diff. I wondering what else is different. Anyone had any knowledge or experence with those traction bars that fit above the rear axle, to help contol wash board on some trails. Hopefully I will have e-mail at home in about a week, so I can keep up with you guys better. I going through a company called juno which I'am told is free. Anyone want to trade 16 megs, 72 pin for 16 megs, 30 pin or within reason, I need a newer computer, but I rather put the bucks into the jeep. W. Rees 4155 Dixie Idaho Falls, Id. 83401 83 FSJ --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:33:10 -0500 From: Jeff Herbst <JeffHerbst-at-electrosys.com> Subject: RE: Hey- trade simms >>Anyone want to trade 16 megs, 72 pin for 16 megs, 30 pin or within reason, I >>need a newer computer, but I rather put the bucks into the jeep. >> >> >>W. Rees Good Luck! Really you probably will end up using a 'Simm Stacker'. These things are getting cheaper (around $20 in Dallas). I've used them in a Pentium motherboard with a P-5 100. Put 70ns 30pin 4 meg simms (4 of 'em for 16meg total) and matched that to a 72pin 16meg simm and had no problems. I build a lot of computers for my work and I don't think you will have any problems provided your 30pin simms are 70ns or faster. P.S. Now that everybody is using 72pin simms, all the new motherboards are going to DIMMS! Tell me these people don't know how to keep you buying! Jeff Herbst 1982 Wagoneer LTD Texas[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:38:53 -0500 From: Jeff Herbst <JeffHerbst-at-electrosys.com> Subject: Sticking my neck out for JCW >I refuse to have anything to do with JC Whitney. >no way does JC Whit get any of my $$ OK, so what do you guys have against JCWhitney? So far I have been satisfied with everything I have bought from them. Several of the items I bought can be found proudly displayed at the local hot-rod shop. Every shipment has come with a preprinted RMA form and a check box for refund or swap. All in all if you stay away from the 'Lighted Jester hood ornament' you can do OK. Jeff Herbst 1982 Wagoneer LTD Texas[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:46:48 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Year One Phone Number As promised, here is the phone number for Year One: 1-800-950-9503 They have catalogs for all of the GM "A" bodies but I think the Buick catalog would be the one to have for a Buick powered FSJ owner (obviously) I also just recieved another catalog from a place that has a bunch of Buick performance parts like cams, roller rockers, intakes, etc. It's called Poston Enterprises Buick Parts and the number is: 1-334-368-8577 Tom Anhalt '81 Cherokee Laredo[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:51:16 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Sticking my neck out for JCW Jeff Herbst wrote: > > >I refuse to have anything to do with JC Whitney. > > >no way does JC Whit get any of my $$ > > OK, so what do you guys have against JCWhitney? So far I have been > satisfied with everything I have bought from them. Several of the items > I bought can be found proudly displayed at the local hot-rod shop. > Every shipment has come with a preprinted RMA form and a check box for > refund or swap. All in all if you stay away from the 'Lighted Jester > hood ornament' you can do OK. > What do you mean? The "jester" is cool. What you have to stay away from are the things like the turn signal indicators that play "Love me tender" so you don't forget to cancel your signal! Tom Anhalt '81 Cherokee Laredo Santa Barbara, CA[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:09:57 PDT From: "wallace rees" <seerlaw-at-hotmail.com> Subject: simms Jeff. Hey thanks for the info. Well I'll try and live with the 8 megs. I'll have to dump some of my kid games. W. Rees if you got drive, drive a FSJ --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:34:35 -0700 From: ericfa-at-ixpres.com (Eric Faust) Subject: More fun with the tailgate I picked up the tailgate switch today, mine is also metal vice plastic :) . I installed the switch and put the new seal and channel on the window using 3m weather strip adhesive as per the manual. Getting the channel on is a real -at-#&%#. BTW, the window is easily removed from the tailgate with the channel on and without removing the inner or outer weather strip. I also soldered the wire back on the defroster. I decided while I had the window out to remove the tint film. The adhesive left behind was a real pain to scrub off! The dealer didn't have the latch arms (the arms that operate the tailgate latches) and they were a bit pricey to order. Mine broke right at the screw hole where the chrome handle goes. I may just have it welded. Anyone have a spare laying around??? Oh well, hopefully things will continue to go relatively smooth. Eric Faust '89 Grand Wagoneer (still soon to have a working tailgate window!)[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:44:51 -0400 From: Zack Heisey <moosh-at-redrose.net> Subject: Get the Parts Books? Hello all, This is kind of a late follow up, but I'm just checking in to see if everyone who ordered a parts book (and sent a check) got one. I know I sent them all but you know how the mail is. I'd also like to hear some reactions good or bad. I hope that they can be put to good use. If anyone lurking is still interested, I have 2 left. Thank you, that is all. Zack Heisey '79 J-10 '79 Cherokee Chief Wide Track[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:53:28 -0400 From: Zack Heisey <moosh-at-redrose.net> Subject: Anyone w/ 62-72 FSJ Hello 62-72 FSJ Lovers, As some of you already know, I have stumbled across an original copy of a 62-72 J-series Jeep Parts Manual. Like the other parts manual, I am going to get it reprinted for the list if there is sufficient interest. I already have three people interested, and I would like to find out if there are any more. A ballpark price for this will probably be around $50 give or take. This book isn't quite as thick as the 74-80 'cuz it dosen't have any CJ crap. If you are interested, you don't have to commit to anything, I would just like to know a general number. If we can get around 10 people, the price would be cheaper. Let me know. Later, Zack Heisey '79 J-10 '79 Cherokee Chief Wide Track[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:27:07 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Sticking my neck out for JCW At 10:38 PM 5/13/97 -0500, you wrote: >>I refuse to have anything to do with JC Whitney. > >>no way does JC Whit get any of my $$ > > >OK, so what do you guys have against JCWhitney? So far I have been >satisfied with everything I have bought from them. Several of the items >I bought can be found proudly displayed at the local hot-rod shop. >Every shipment has come with a preprinted RMA form and a check box for >refund or swap. All in all if you stay away from the 'Lighted Jester >hood ornament' you can do OK. > > Jeff Herbst > 1982 Wagoneer LTD > Texas > Well not wanting to start any flame wars etc, I will not spend any of my hard earned $$ with them. IMHO they should be sued to the max for all their phoney advertising. C'ya joe- >[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 23:15:32 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: we understand...
> >stuff for a 74 I posted earlier, the "flipper quarter" looks sorta silly
> >without the word 'windows' after it huh? :)
> >
> >Regards,
> >-jj
> >
> Probably not as weird as the fact that alot of us knew what you
> meant. Mike Saltsgaver.
>
I didn't even look twice at it... knew immediately... :-)
Hey, Joe, you must be one of those folks using IE... I just tried to
do something with IE and my pulldowns don't work... and I just
remembered that IE has a problem with Javascript, go figure... :-)
I should have done a "go to" button... rats... over 100 pages to
fix, again... or just email a free copy of Netscape to anyone silly
enough to actually only have IE... (just kidding, just kidding...
put those matches away... just kidding... )
later,
john
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[Back to Top]Date: 14 May 97 02:50:14 EDT
From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM>
Subject: weekend tailgate fun
Sheppard1-at-aol.com writes:
>> First a big thank you to Michael Baxter and his how-to on that tailgate
project!! It really saved me alot of time and effort!
<<
{Eric Faust wrote something too but, I lost it)
You guys are too merciful....blush. Isn't that the How To where I had you
turn on the ignition switch but neglected to remind you to turn it off? It's
not still on is it :-)?
-- Michael Baxter, 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
From Reno, NV USA on 13-May-1997 at 23:48:23 PDT
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[Back to Top]Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 23:39:24 -0700
From: Joe Schaefer <joes-at-olympus.net>
Subject: Chilton's/JC Whipme
>I've been following the spec. in my
>chilton book, I assumed the manufactor and the book where the same. I
deceided
>to look at the sticked under the hood, behold they were different.
Chiltom had
>the timimg at 13 deg. where as the sticker was at 16 +- 2 deg. It made a
diff.
>I wondering what else is different.
>W. Rees
Just my opinion W. but Chiltons' is right down there in the mud and slime
with JC Whipme. Albeit better than Haynes though.
Get the factory manual, even they aren't 100% all the time but at least you
have a fighting chance.
Regards,
-jj
[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:03:55 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <joes-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: we understand... >> > >I didn't even look twice at it... knew immediately... :-) > >Hey, Joe, you must be one of those folks using IE... I just tried to >do something with IE and my pulldowns don't work... and I just >remembered that IE has a problem with Javascript, go figure... :-) >I should have done a "go to" button... rats... over 100 pages to >fix, again... or just email a free copy of Netscape to anyone silly >enough to actually only have IE... (just kidding, just kidding... >put those matches away... just kidding... ) > >later, >john Oh sure John, tell me it's MY fault ;) -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:14:20 -0400 From: Kevin LaRue <osfoo-at-megalink.net> Subject: Re: Anyone w/ 62-72 FSJ [from Zack Heisey <moosh-at-redrose.net>:] > As some of you already know, I have stumbled across an original copy >of a 62-72 J-series Jeep Parts Manual. Like the other parts manual, I > . . . Just to be clear in my mind: exactly what information is contained in the Parts Manual? (I have a 1968 J-2000 & already have a copy of the 1967 Service Manual.) Be seeing you! Kevin LaRue Osfoo PO Box 62, Peru, Maine 04290 (207)665-2348 osfoo-at-megalink.net[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:15:20 -0700 From: "Mark J. Smith" <us004765-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Square=Unleaded, Round=Leaded? I recently purchased a 78 J20 it is also unleaded. To make sure I did a little research and found the cutoff years for cars and trucks to make the switch to unleaded was different. The auto manufacturers produced many leaded trucks with no restrictions long after the cars were all lead free. I run at a minimum 2 bottles of lead substitute for each 5 fillups. Without the lead substitute unecessary wear could occur. Regards, Mark At 02:43 PM 5/13/97 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >*in reply to Chrisharon's memo > >>>>I've got a '78 Cherokee and it does indeed run Unleaded & have the fill >pipe restrictor. ><snip> > >Is your 78 Cherokee a California version? I always thought square >headlights (79 and later) = unleaded and catlytic converters. Round >headlights (78 and before) = leaded and no catlytic converter. > >Do I have this right? Is this true for all 50 states, 49 states, or were >there other exceptions in addition to California? > >Anyone else out there with an unleaded 78 or before? > >Thanks >Dave > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > Mark Smith marksjeep-at-mindspring.com Editor: Jeep J-Series Home Page http://www.mindspring.com/~us004765/jtrkwww.htm 1978 J20 360 V8 Daily driver stock. 1984 J10 360 V8 Frame off restoration slightly modified.[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:46:32 -0700 From: "Mark J. Smith" <us004765-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Square=Unleaded, Round=Leaded? Correction, 78 J20 LEADED no cats. Sorry, Mark At 07:15 AM 5/14/97 -0700, you wrote: >I recently purchased a 78 J20 it is also unleaded. To make sure >I did a little research and found the cutoff years for cars and >trucks to make the switch to unleaded was different. The >auto manufacturers produced many leaded trucks with no restrictions >long after the cars were all lead free. I run at a minimum 2 >bottles of lead substitute for each 5 fillups. Without the lead >substitute unecessary wear could occur. > >Regards, > >Mark > >At 02:43 PM 5/13/97 -0500, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >>*in reply to Chrisharon's memo >> >>>>>I've got a '78 Cherokee and it does indeed run Unleaded & have the fill >>pipe restrictor. >><snip> >> >>Is your 78 Cherokee a California version? I always thought square >>headlights (79 and later) = unleaded and catlytic converters. Round >>headlights (78 and before) = leaded and no catlytic converter. >> >>Do I have this right? Is this true for all 50 states, 49 states, or were >>there other exceptions in addition to California? >> >>Anyone else out there with an unleaded 78 or before? >> >>Thanks >>Dave >> >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------- >>To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >>"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. >> >> >> >Mark Smith >marksjeep-at-mindspring.com > >Editor: Jeep J-Series Home Page >http://www.mindspring.com/~us004765/jtrkwww.htm > >1978 J20 360 V8 Daily driver stock. >1984 J10 360 V8 Frame off restoration slightly modified. > > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > Mark Smith marksjeep-at-mindspring.com Editor: Jeep J-Series Home Page http://www.mindspring.com/~us004765/jtrkwww.htm 1978 J20 360 V8 Daily driver stock. 1984 J10 360 V8 Frame off restoration slightly modified.[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:01:43 -0400 From: "Steven A. Kaiser" <Steven_Kaiser-at-compuserve.com> Subject: Gear swap Q's Have any of you done a ring and pinion swap?? My Cherokee has 3.07's and I'd like to swap in 3.73's or lower. Any suggestions? Steve Kaiser 76 Cherokee, 360, QT[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 05:04:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: ck1-at-pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Anyone w/ 62-72 FSJ
Hello Zack... I have a 1970 Wagoneer 1414C. If this model is
included in what you have - I'm interested...
On 1997-05-14 moosh-at-redrose.net said:
>As some of you already know, I have stumbled across an original copy
>of a 62-72 J-series Jeep Parts Manual. Like the other parts manual,
>I am going to get it reprinted for the list if there is sufficient
>interest. I already have three people interested, and I would like
>to find out if there are any more. A ballpark price for this will
>probably be around $50 give or take. This book isn't quite as
>thick as the 74-80 'cuz it dosen't have any CJ crap. If you are
>interested, you don't have to commit to anything, I would just like
>to know a general number. If we can get around 10 people, the
>price would be cheaper. Let me know. Later,
All the Best,
Bruce * kb6lwn * ck1-at-pacbell.net * 707-987-4737
... 1970 Jeep Wagoneer (1414C) V8-350 4WD "Pinecone"
Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive
[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 05:04:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: ck1-at-pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Sticking my neck out for JCW
On 1997-05-13 JeffHerbst-at-electrosys.com said:
>check box for refund or swap. All in all if you stay away from the
>'Lighted Jester hood ornament' you can do OK.
Hi Jeff... I always liked the Bulldog with the lighted eyes,
but now that I want one for my Jeep - it seems that they don't
carry it anymore. Maybe a conflict with Mack Inc. ??? :>
All the Best,
Bruce * kb6lwn * ck1-at-pacbell.net * 707-987-4737
... 1970 Jeep Wagoneer (1414C) V8-350 4WD "Pinecone"
Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive
[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 05:04:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: ck1-at-pacbell.net
Subject: Re: Points Replacement
Kevin... I just ordered some parts from both Summit and JEG'S.
The parts being a 100A alternator from JEGS and an Optima Battery,
a remote starter relay, and battery disconnect switch from Summit.
The JEGS order was placed about 3 days earlier that the Summit, and
the alternator arrived today (5/13). When I called Summit, I found
that the switch was shipped today, but the battery and relay won't
be available for shipping 'till 5/25.
The alternator fits REALLY! GOOD on the Buick 350 in my '70 Wag.
I was quite concerned whether it was going to directly replace the
OEM 35A unit, but it bolts right in... <happy - happy - joy - joy>
One of my near future investments is also going to be a BID type
distributer as referenced on page 74 of Chiltons 57-86 Jeep manual.
I've seen units in both catalogs, so I'll give you the 800#'s.
*** Summit (800) 230-3030 *** JEG'S (800) 345-4545
If you find units at a more reasonable price, please pass it on.
Along with my order for the battery from Summit, I included a
short 'stick-em' note asking about a dist for my application, and
if I hear anything positive back from them - I'll let you know.
On 1997-05-13 osfoo-at-megalink.net said:
>I'm interested in one of these for my Buick 350. Like Joe, however,
>I refuse to have anything to do with JC Whitney. So, could someone
>(Tom, perhaps) point me to Year One? Could someone (Joe, perhaps)
>point me to Summit? Any other suggested sources? Thanks, guys!
All the Best,
Bruce * kb6lwn * ck1-at-pacbell.net * 707-987-4737
... 1970 Jeep Wagoneer (1414C) V8-350 4WD "Pinecone"
Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive
[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:49:55 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Re: Front spring bushings. Gord, I did mine by myself. First I tried using a big vise and socket to press the bushings out in one piece. It's pretty dangerous because if the socket isn't lined up just right it can shoot out ant hit someone or something. My guess is that a C clamp won't be strong enough. mine were in there pretty tightly. I drilled holes in the rubber part to loosen it up, then took out the rubber and inner lining. That left the outer lining, press-fit into the shackle. I then used a hacksaw w/ a sharp blade to cut a groove in the inner lining. Then I used a hammer and chisel/air chisel to push the inner lining out. Took a little while but it saved the cost of having a shop do it. ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com ---------- > From: Gordon McKenzie <gordmck-at-direct.ca> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Front spring bushings. > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 1997 6:30 PM > > Has anyone done their front spring hanger bushings? I have one that is > toast but was just told they need to be pressed out and it's a four hour > job. I'm going to do them myself but am wondering what kinda tools are > reqired. I figure a big C clamp and a big socket will do but I'm just > guessing at this point. > > Gord[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:53:59 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Re: Gear swap Q's I considered doing it myself but due to lack of time I've farmed it out. ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com ---------- > From: Steven A. Kaiser <Steven_Kaiser-at-compuserve.com> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Gear swap Q's > Date: Wednesday, May 14, 1997 7:01 AM > > Have any of you done a ring and pinion swap?? My Cherokee has 3.07's and > I'd like to swap in 3.73's or lower. Any suggestions? > > Steve Kaiser > 76 Cherokee, 360, QT[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:09:14 -0500 From: brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com (John Brewer) Subject: 2.72 Gears I checked my diff the other day and found I had 2.72 gears! No wonder my mileage is so good (14-16mpg hiway). Kind of sucks for offroad but I'm not doing to much of that these days. How common were the 2.72's? JB "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." Benjamin Franklin[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:10:03 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Re: gears No, they're both out of D44s, the front is a '76 and the rear is a '72 (does the year matter when replacing gears of the same type of axle?). Problem is, I didn't get the front gears back when my friend installed them. I don't know what condition the rears are in but you can have them for $25 (half of what I'll pay for the replacement 3.73). I don't think i can give you the carrier though because I think I need it for the new gears. ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com ---------- > From: Dennis M. "Doc" Fariello <fariello-at-inspace.net> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: gears > Date: Wednesday, May 07, 1997 8:32 AM > > >Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 08:48:45 -0500 > >From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> > >Subject: Re: Gas mileage question > > <snip> > > >the mileage will have gone down once she's back on the road due to the > >lower (3.73 versus the original 3.31) gears I've just installed. > > How much do you want for the 3.31s? I presume they're out of a 44 front > and 20 rear... And where are you located? > > > | > | > | | > | ============= | > 0_| / \ |_o > |_|_____----+-----____|_| > |====|=====|=====|====| > ||____|_____|_____|____|| > \_____|___|DOC|___|_____/ > |\/\/|--------\_/--|\/\/| > ______|\/\/|_____________|\/\/|______ > > Home of the "Bottomless Transfer Case" > _____________________________________ > > email: fariello-at-inspace.net > http://www.inspace.net/~fariello/fsj > _____________________________________[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:42:11 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Get the Parts Books? Zack Heisey wrote: > > Hello all, > This is kind of a late follow up, but I'm just checking in to see if > everyone who ordered a parts book (and sent a check) got one. I know I > sent them all but you know how the mail is. I'd also like to hear some > reactions good or bad. I hope that they can be put to good use. If > anyone lurking is still interested, I have 2 left. Thank you, that is > all. > > Zack Heisey > '79 J-10 > '79 Cherokee Chief Wide Track Zack, my apologies. I recieved my parts book late last week. In a word...Awesome. Now we just have to find someone who has the '81-'89 parts book like they have at the dealer and get it copied. Sometimes I feel like offering to take it off their hands...heck, I use it more than they do! Again, thanks! Tom Anhalt '81 Cherokee Laredo[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:55:29 -0400 (EDT) From: GypsyLive-at-aol.com Subject: AXLE questions Ok, I am still looking for my axle shaft ( model 20, widetrack, passenger side) Btu I have an important question: WILL A J-TRUCK axle shaft interchange? dealorship only has 2 part numbers ( wagoneer, jtruck/cherokee) but computerized salvage yards tell me the see 2 different part numbers... ANY BODY HAVE IDEAS!!! THANKS![Back to Top]
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