Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 00:22:23 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: spoiler and 2100 >> I get the 4 bl and Edelbrock installed. >> >> C'ya >> joe- > >joe, what do you want for this stuff? I have a rear spoiler, but >it's bent. > Sorry the spoiler/air deflector is spoken for. >On the carb is the 2100 a good one? I'm not sure what Old Blue has >but it's crap... The 2100 is what is on the chief right now, its in perfect working order, it has the manual choke though. being in and near the mountains I would suspect you would be better off with the 2150, as it has the altitude compensator on it. (this is the difference in a 2100 & 2150) The 2150 I have needs rebuilt. The 2100 will be available when we put the edelbrock manifold on. (soon I hope!) C'ya Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 01:34:11 -0400 From: Zack Heisey <moosh-at-redrose.net> Subject: Parts Interchange Manual I was thinking again. I know, there I go thinking again, like I know I'm not paid to do... but if I took the '62-'72 Parts book, and then combined the sections with the FSJ sections from the 74-80 Parts book, and then maybe get the print outs from the guy who has 81-91 on fiche, I could make a complete interchange manual. It would really benifit FSJ's of all years. Someone could compare their part to a newer model, they could be exactly the same, or even a little bit better, if not more available. Now I realize this SOB would be thick, but I think it'd be cool. Thoughts? Comments? Zack Heisey '79 J-10 '79 Cheroke Chief Wide Track[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 01:42:49 -0400 From: Zack Heisey <moosh-at-redrose.net> Subject: Re: Thanks Eric Faust wrote: > > wallace rees wrote: > > > > To those who severed and are now serving in the military ,THANKS. > > Hope you all enjoy your holiday. > > > > W. Rees > > 83 FSJ If you have to drive, drive a FSJ > > > > You are most welcome! > > Eric Faust '89 Grand Wagoneer (and '96 Guided Missile Destroyer!) It was a pleasure serving you. I just wish more people felt like you guys. Zack Heisey U.S. Army 7/92-7/96[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 01:42:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chrisharon-at-aol.com Subject: Re: 360 valley pan W. Reis Come to think of it, when we installed the SP2P intake on our 360, it did have a valley pan gasket. I'd apreciate it if you'd send a copy of the 360 buildup to Chris Enos 10158 Colima Rd. Whittier, CA 90603 Thanks in advance.[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 01:42:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Chrisharon-at-aol.com Subject: Tilt steering column fix, ST-300 converter size, oily air filter I'll write up the steering column fix in the next couple of days. My fix was for a loose column where it tilts. If it's just the wheel that's loose, you've got a different problem but some of the same disassembly info should help you. I'll be pulling my '64 300 motor in the next couple of months, I'll measure the converter then. My 360 is very, very tired and has lots of blowby (or worn valve guides, don't know which). The PCV system just can't keep up so at anything above an idle, you get oil vapor coming out of the fill pipe. That's why I put the dump line on mine.[Back to Top]
Date: 25 May 97 02:38:09 EDT From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: please explain Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> writes: >> What is the difference in ported vacuum and regular (?) vacuum? << Regular vacuum is called manifold vacuum and is the pressure inside the intake manifold. The pressure inside the intake manifold is low (high vacuum) when the when the engine is idling or lightly loaded. The manifold vacuum becomes almost the same as atmospheric pressure when you put your foot to the floor. In fact, a really efficient naturally aspirated engine will have less than 1" HG (.5 psi) pressure differential between the intake manifold pressure and ambient pressure (atmospheric or outside pressure) at WOT peak torque. Port vacuum (also called venturi vacuum) is the pressure inside the venturi in the carburetor. The higher the velocity of the air going through the carburetor, the lower the pressure (higher vacuum). Port vacuum is based on a principle discovered by a Swiss Mathematician named Bernoulli. He discovered if you increase the velocity of a fluid (air), the pressure decreases. Take a tube and put a restriction in the tube (like the venturi in a carb.). Then flow air through the tube, the pressure will be the lowest in the center of the restriction. Bernoulli's Principle is how carburetors work and airplanes fly. -- Michael Baxter, 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 24-May-1997 at 23:33:11 PDT !^NavFont01F000DMGeHGnMG5CHKc184F[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 02:18:20 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: brad's page & the PNW FSJ Fest
I just added another foto to Brad's 82 Wag page - it was on a
different roll...
The PNW FSJ fest may even have a sponsor... Please let me know if
you're coming for sure so I can see about lining up some food and a
place to gather.
All FSJ types are welcome, that includes you Michael Baxter... :-)
(Michael was kidding me about recruiting members from other
sectors... )
If any of you local types have any good ideas call or email. I may
be able to get some sponsorship out of the Jeep dealer and perhaps
some of the off-road shops in the area...
BTW, Talked with Super Ken on the phone this morning. We were in hot
pursuit of a Super Wagoneer... Just turned out to be a regular 68
Wagoneer with the Buick 350... Looking at $1500 if you're
interested. It was nice talking with you Ken. Hope to meet you
face to face one of these days...
ttyl,
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 03:25:53 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Henry P.
ill decline...sell em to john!!
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+ ___________ _________ ___
| | | / + | | | | | + Ken
Wetherall's +
| +_______|_| | ____|_| + | | | 1967 Jeep "Super"
| | | | / / | | | Wagoneer +
| |_|___ | \_\_____+ | | | kenns-at-concentric.net
| | | | \ \ | | |+ N. CA,USA
| _+_|_| \____ | | ___+ | | |
+327-TH400-PL-DL-spr_over+
| | | \ | | | | | | | | D44's
| | | + _____/ | | | |_|__| | | +
| | | | | | | | | +
|+__|_|ull |_____+__/_/ize \___+___/_/eep Inc. + +
[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 03:26:57 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: '62-'72 Parts Manual Update
ok great!!
Zack Heisey wrote:
>
> I went to the printers today only to find out the guy who does the
> pricing was out until Tuesday. After little smoozing with the girls
> behind the counter I got them to make me a copy of my original, so I
> could use the copy to make all of yours intead of the original. What a
> fiasco. There are 450 pages, and I'll bet they went through 6 reams of
> paper. And not just any paper, 60lb paper. The really thick stuff.
> Any how, as near as I can figure and from what the girl told me, there
> should be any reason we can't get this done for fifty buck my door to
> yours. I'll let you know when I get a final price, and we'll see who's
> still interested. I will keep you informed.
>
> Zack Heisey
> '79 J-10
> '79 Cherokee Chief Wide Track
>
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+ ___________ _________ ___
| | | / + | | | | | + Ken
Wetherall's +
| +_______|_| | ____|_| + | | | 1967 Jeep "Super"
| | | | / / | | | Wagoneer +
| |_|___ | \_\_____+ | | | kenns-at-concentric.net
| | | | \ \ | | |+ N. CA,USA
| _+_|_| \____ | | ___+ | | |
+327-TH400-PL-DL-spr_over+
| | | \ | | | | | | | | D44's
| | | + _____/ | | | |_|__| | | +
| | | | | | | | | +
|+__|_|ull |_____+__/_/ize \___+___/_/eep Inc. + +
[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 09:38:45 -0400 From: Jack Jacques <ozwine-at-dnet.net> Subject: Re: Parts Interchange Manual > Zack, Do it, I want one!BTW, this has commercial possibilities for you. Jack.[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 07:48:36 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: Parts Interchange Manual >... but if I took the '62-'72 Parts book, and then >combined the sections with the FSJ sections from the 74-80 Parts book, >and Guess, I fell through the crack huh? -jj 73-j-4000 :([Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 09:15:43 -0700 From: "Robert Close" <rclose-at-humboldt1.com> Subject: Re: '62-'72 Parts Book ---------- Does the parts manual for 62-72 cover interchangable parts for these years? I would be interested in a copy for my 67 wagoneer.[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 08:40:28 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: Re:S.M.A. 351Ms
Ah, very good, John! You've got it almost exact... despite John's
adamant protests, the M stands for Modified, as in Modified Cleveland.
At 01:33 PM 5/24/97 -0400, UtahMlmn-at-aol.com wrote:
> The ENTIRE purpose of the existance of the 351M was to meet demand for a
>351 engine in both Ford cars and trucks, they were used extensively in
>both. The 351C met it's demise in 1973 because of high emissions. The
>351M, and the 400 both have lots and lots and lots of pollution control
>devices to (barely) meet federal standards of the time. Why they didn't
>just apply the changed heads to the 351C, I dunno. Could possibly be that
>the 351C went away in '73, and the 351M I think appeared in '75.
>
>Sorry, Doc. I was offering my understanding of why the M was there, which
>was because I thought they were Modified 351 engines. I suppose it could
>mean More polutioncontroldevicesto barelymeetfederalstandardsofthetime. I
>wonder if Mr. Ford had a relative named Marv?
>
>John
>UtahMlmn
>
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 08:39:02 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: Re: Hi there
Hi Dan, nice to hear from you. Living in Oregon, you may be interested in
our Pacific Northwest association, they'll have lots of specific
information as far as sources and stuff in your area, at least within a
couple of states, I'm sure <grin>. They also are planning get-togethers.
Their fearless leader is John. You'll hear from him, I guarantee <grin>.
I also invite you to check out some other fine FSJ sites, such as
the FSJ Section of ORC site -- <http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj>
John's home page -- <http://www./~john>
Mark's J-truck Page <http://www.mindspring.com/~jsego/jeep/index.html>
At 09:33 AM 5/24/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I just ran across your pages and have really enjoyed what i've seen. My
>name is Dan Dunn, live in Oregon and have a 82' J10 stepside. I have had
>other jeep trucks before this one, but it is my favorite, (also have an
>XJ and ZJ). Now that I know you are there as I update my truck i'll keep
>in contact, gonna' be looking for parts like everyone else!
>
>See ya!
>Dan
>
>ddunn-at-hq.tcfarm.com
>
>
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 12:28:38 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: horror movies
>these days it seems that sci fi in the movies
>no longer means science fiction, it really
>means horror in space :) I guess "Dune"
>killed all hope for the true thing.
>what a shame,
>Alisa
I feel that there hasn't been a horror movie made worth watching since
about, oh, say '65 or so. As in probably NONE filmed in color.... nothing
but blood and guts, no plot, no scary stuff, just gross. Yuck.
Mandatory FSJ content... Timex has never ever in her entire life been to
a drive-in.
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 12:30:40 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: memorial day
>
> To those who severed and are now serving in the military ,THANKS.
> Hope you all enjoy your holiday.
Hmm... I was in the Navy, never got to do any severing, nor even see any.
<pout>
but thanks anyway (grin).
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 10:05:03 -0700 From: Eric Faust <eric-at-inet1.inetworld.net> Subject: Re: wish me luck...DOC! 68 Wagoneer wrote: > > Uh, oh. Doc and Ken are interested too. You all want to play fisticuffs for > them? :=) > > ======================================= > Henry Padilla > '68 Jeep Wagoneer > Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser > jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com > Well, my arms aren't that long! I'd prefer F&R but if John gets the F, I might still take the R. (I know, theres no difference F or R, but it makes sense right? :-) Eric Faust '89 Grand Wagoneer (In need of lower gears)[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 23:07:30 -0500 From: "Tim Johnson" <scoutman-at-postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... I found the first article, if anybody wants it I can fax it to them.... Tim scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net 79 wagon / 63 scout ---------- > From: CARNES JASON A <Jason.Carnes-at-Colorado.EDU> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > Date: Saturday, May 24, 1997 4:37 PM > > > I have the last two articles, but I missed the first one. If anyone > has a copy of the first article, I'd love to have it. Anybody who > wants photocopies of the last two can e-mail me... > > Jason Carnes '88 GW > > I just caught a glimpse of an AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in some 4 X 4 > magazine in the supermarket tonight. It was the 3rd and final article on > this buildup. Would anybody on the list happen to subscribe to this magazine > and be willing to send me a photocopy of all 3 articles??? If so, great. If > not, thanks anyway! > > '78 Cherokee, 360, TH-400, Q-track, 33" > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 11:14:19 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: no turning back... john meister wrote: > > let's see if we can't do some syncronized FSJ driving and get a bunch > of FSJ's in one spot at one time!!! We gotta show those guys on > the other side of the continent how it's done... > > Hey, Tom & Dan, you driving up too? > Oh boy, that's quite a drive for even us SoCal types. Did that drive in '92 in the Buick Special. I think I'll have to pass this time :( Tom Anhalt[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 11:27:15 -0500 From: "Tim Johnson" <scoutman-at-postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... Just looked around the house and found all 3 articles. If all you out there would like I copy, let me know. I will fax or mail copies to you.. Tim Johnson scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net 79 wagon / 63 scout ---------- > From: Tim Johnson <scoutman-at-postoffice.worldnet.att.net> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > Date: Saturday, May 24, 1997 11:07 PM > > I found the first article, if anybody wants it I can fax it to them.... > Tim > scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net > 79 wagon / 63 scout > > ---------- > > From: CARNES JASON A <Jason.Carnes-at-Colorado.EDU> > > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > > Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > > Date: Saturday, May 24, 1997 4:37 PM > > > > > > I have the last two articles, but I missed the first one. If anyone > > has a copy of the first article, I'd love to have it. Anybody who > > wants photocopies of the last two can e-mail me... > > > > Jason Carnes '88 GW > > > > I just caught a glimpse of an AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in some 4 X 4 > > magazine in the supermarket tonight. It was the 3rd and final article on > > this buildup. Would anybody on the list happen to subscribe to this > magazine > > and be willing to send me a photocopy of all 3 articles??? If so, great. > If > > not, thanks anyway! > > > > '78 Cherokee, 360, TH-400, Q-track, 33" > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the > command > > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 13:55:13 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... At 11:27 AM 5/25/97 -0500, you wrote: >Just looked around the house and found all 3 articles. If all you out there >would like I copy, let me know. I will fax or mail copies to you.. > > Tim Johnson >scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net >79 wagon / 63 scout > I do, I do....when would you fax it? As that is also my internet line. let me know and I'll switch it over. # 317 784-8373 Thanks!!!!!!! Joe- 79 Chief >[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 14:55:52 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: Hi there & latebreaking FSJ news..
Howdy Dan!
Whereabouts in the Beaver State do you live? I used to live in K.
Falls, Troutdale and Portland before moving up north of Seattle.
We're planning another FSJ-fest on Saturday July 5th. I know of at
least one FSJ'r coming from Idaho, maybe two. Possibly one coming
from Portland (we just have to make sure he doesn't get into a
situation where he has to back up... reverse is out... :-), Someone
from Truckee, California even mentioned the possiblity of coming up.
We've also got one of our Charter Members up in Vancouver, BC, hoping
that he'll be able to come down as well.
The first FSJ-fest was pretty successful, nobody broke anything,
almost all of the pictures came out nice and we even had sunshine.
We're trying to get as many FSJ's together as possible for photos and
possibly get our activities published in Four Wheeler magazine.
The Off-Road.com site has been written up in Motor Trend as one of
the five excellent places to surf. I'll scan the page in that
talks about us. (March 97, pg 107)
I'm the Full-Size Jeep page editor. No pay, just "glory"... :-)
I believe I've met the most of those of us on the FSJ-list. I met
doc when I went down to Florida to see my folks. I met three of the
FSJ'rs in CA when I went down on a business trip, even went wheelin
with Tom and Dan down in Santa Barbara.
There are a bunch on the list I'd like to meet. Last summer Mark
Wallace drove his 81 Wagoneer across the country trying to meet as
many of us as possible as he came out to pick up his brother.
Hope you can make it up here in July for our get together.
BTW, late breaking FSJ news. It seems one of the editors from
Cherokee America is planning a defection to the FSJ pages!!! After
years of wheeling with his xj cherokee he's determined that SJ's are
the best for the job. Not sure when he'll join the list, but he
asked me yesterday if he would be able to contribute to the FSJ pages
as well as the xj pages. His first 4x4 was a mid 70's Wagoneer with
a 401 that sorta got wiped out during someone's driving lesson...
luckily the telephone pole didn't fall over, but the Wagoneer had a
bent frame and all... He's looking at a J-series pickup with a
stepside.
HERE's his announcement to his Cherokee America (XJ) co-editor:
" On another note: I am thinking about retiring my Cherokee from
extreme trail use. After I noticed my steering box was moving around
because the structure is getting weak I really began to rethink some
of my longterm goals a bit. I am just having a hard time swallowing
the idea of spending several thousand dollars to change everything
under this Jeep to stuff from another Jeep. Don't get me wrong here,
I have no intent of abandoning Cherokees, just am thinking about
adding a rig to my "collection" for use in about 10% of my wheeling
situations. My concern is that if I continue to push this uni-body
the way I have been it will at some point fail. I like my Jeep to
much to do this to it. I am looking towards finding an old J series
truck to build as they use massive running gear, have a frame, and
are cheap. Just gonna keep my eyes open for now and see what I run
across. I figure a J-truck will also serve as a run to the dump
vehicle and in my case I will be disregarding any body damage. Marc"
Marc Bowers has several years experience as a Jeep mechanic. He is
ASE certified and Chrysler certified. If I'm unable to find a shop
that will do the lift in exchange for some free web advertising, then
Marc and I will do the lift at his house.
You ought to see the skid plate he built under his Cherokee... ONE
QUARTER INCH PLATE STEEL... There will be a picture of it on
Cherokee America soon as he writes the article, or I'll park it up on
my pages somewhere... I scanned his pictures in last night.
I'm going to try and write my evaluation of the little wagoneer's
lift in such a way that both XJ and SJ owners will benefit. Seems
that a number of us have both. Marc noticed this as well and we'll
put our collective thoughts together to tastefully combine the sites.
It's a challenge though, in looking over a yard full of xj and sj
jeeps we determined that there isn't much in common... let's see
the front driveshaft u-joints, the steering boxes... uhhhhhhh....
can I get some help here??? :-)
If y'all have any suggestions on format to make the FSJ site more
interesting or easier to navigate, feel free to let me know. I
think what I'll do is build a "link" index of what's available on
Cherokee America so you won't miss any interesting technical articles
on that side, and vice versa for the FSJ side.
Thanx again to all who have contributed how-to's and photos. If you
think you can write a better how to, or a different one, feel free to
do so. Once I get caught up on building what I have in the queue,
I'm going to go back through each page and article and clean them up
some.
later,
john meister
>
>
> Hi Dan, nice to hear from you. Living in Oregon, you may be
> interested in
> our Pacific Northwest association, they'll have lots of specific
> information as far as sources and stuff in your area, at least
> within a couple of states, I'm sure <grin>. They also are planning
> get-togethers.
>
> Their fearless leader is John. You'll hear from him, I guarantee
> <grin>.
>
> I also invite you to check out some other fine FSJ sites, such as
> the FSJ Section of ORC site --
> <http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj> John's home page --
> <http://www./~john> Mark's J-truck Page
> <http://www.mindspring.com/~jsego/jeep/index.html>
>
> At 09:33 AM 5/24/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >I just ran across your pages and have really enjoyed what i've seen. My
> >name is Dan Dunn, live in Oregon and have a 82' J10 stepside. I have had
> >other jeep trucks before this one, but it is my favorite, (also have an
> >XJ and ZJ). Now that I know you are there as I update my truck i'll keep
> >in contact, gonna' be looking for parts like everyone else!
> >
> >See ya!
> >Dan
> >
> >ddunn-at-hq.tcfarm.com
> >
> >
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>
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 14:58:56 +0000 From: "William S. McBride" <wmmcb-at-televar.com> Subject: Re: '62-'72 Parts Manual Update Zack - Will the $50 cover binding or punching of holes for a notebook cover? If so, count me as a 100% definite yes. Bill McBride 1968 J - 100[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 97 15:02:06 PDT From: "Alisa Mize" <jaamize-at-nwlink.com> Subject: Re: horror movies I feel that there hasn't been a horror movie made worth watching since about, oh, say '65 or so. As in probably NONE filmed in color.... nothi= ng but blood and guts, no plot, no scary stuff, just gross. Yuck. I agree! it surprises me that people actually want to see and pay good money to see that type of garbage! And They don't even use fsj's in the dang flicks. (I know this because if they did I am sure someone would have already brought it up:) ALisa[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:08:12 +0000 From: "William S. McBride" <wmmcb-at-televar.com> Subject: Re: brad's page & the PNW FSJ Fest Ken - There is a late 60's Wag in one of the local yards that has been pretty well picked through; however it does have a console and buckets up front. Does this mean it was a Super or were the console/buckets an option on the regular and Custom models? Do you want me to look into any parts for you? Bill McBride 1968 J - 100[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:10:32 +0000 From: "William S. McBride" <wmmcb-at-televar.com> Subject: Re: brad's page & the PNW FSJ Fest John M.- Did you personally check out the 68 Wag? If so, let me know the specifics. Otherwise please post the phone# for the owner again. Thanks. I'm interested. Bill McBride 1968 J - 100[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:13:26 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: FSJ-Fest #2 - July 5, 1997
SO FAR:
Alise - Seattle - Rufus - suggests the pennisula
John - Snohomish - Old Blue - 81 Wag - suggests Granite Falls
David - Moscow, ID - 68 Wag - coming from out of town
Roti? - suggested a picnic the last time
Ron? -
Allan? -
Java Joe? - will be back, come on Joe, please???
Eddie? - we'll pass the hat to fill yer tank for the return trip...
Brad? - just don't backup... :-)
Mick? - hope you can make it.
Marc? (if he gets his J-10 in time...)
come on out and play lurkers - we know you're out there in the Puget
Sound and along that I-5 corridor... come on up, it'll be a great
day. We have to show these other regions how it's done. We're
expecting some stiff competition from the Texas/OK chapter, and the
cornfield chapter, and the North East chapter... :-)
Alise suggested:
> Had yah, thought about the olympic penisula?
> like meet at fort worden (parking, beach and
> bbq facilitys)and go up in to the mountains
trying to coordinate that from this side would be a challenge.
Might be nice, anybody other than Java Joe over there that can
help set things up? (joe will just be coming back from being out of
town, sure hope he can forgo catching up on sleep to meet with us...)
Being a busy weekend the ferries will be very crowded, not to mention
the parks... Over here there are enough places that won't be full
that aren't too far, most of us are in the north end it seems.
> from there. some of those forest roads up
> around darrington are a hoot but if we get even
> 7 fsj's can you imagine if you had to try to turn
exactly... sounds like a blast... Actually if we stay on this
side of Monte Cristo there are a few places that would have room for
even a dozen of us, complete with tables, etc. Big Four Ice Caves
comes to mind. That would be an excellent place if the weather is
nice. The top of Pilchuck would also be excellent - there's plenty
of parking, a nice view and we could bring my gas barbque in my
trailer, or in a J-pickup if anyone shows up with one. The view is
great from up there, used to be a ski resort. Even a car can
make it up there, and there are spur roads for the thrill seekers.
> around? yah know how those roads get.
> very narrow cliffs on either side and a 10'
> diameter tree right across the road :)
> Alisa
have you been up the road to pilchuck? It's not too bad and there
are a few spur roads I've taken off on that get you out onto some
beautiful views, yeah, complete with the cliffs...
The more I think about it, the more Pilchuck or the Big Four Ice
Caves sounds like a good barbque site with plenty of scenic parking
for our photo sessions. The only drawback is if the weather turns
rainy as both are at higher elevations. It will be cool in both
places so if we do go that route anybody who likes warmth needs to
dress for cold... Thankfully, either place isn't that far away,
shouldn't be too crowded and should be beautiful. We can even stop
along the river and throw rocks or pan for gold...
ttyl,
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:22:12 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: FSJ-Fest #2 - another idea from Alise...
> Date: Sat, 24 May 97 05:29:00 PDT
> From: "Alisa Mize" <jaamize-at-nwlink.com>
> Subject: Re: PNW - FSJ fest #2 over the 4th of July weekend - 5th???
> Just had another Idea how about Mt Rainer?
sounds like we should look into it. IT would be easier for Brad to
get there, and Mick if he comes up... It will be a drive for Eddie
and David.
The only other problem I can see is that I've never been there, so I
don't know trails or facilities, wait, I have been to Elbe, an
off-road park on the North of Rainer... Lots of cool easy trails
and probably enough ground for a picnic. Very scenic.
So, all we need to do is reconniter and vote on it. I can contact
some local hard core wheelin' types to see if the park is open and
get their feel for how crowded it is.
Hey, another cool place would be the Naches, lots of high Alpine
meadows, did a run there a few years back, beautiful and fun...
Keep the ideas coming Alise... Wow, good stuff... (now, if you can
come up with an idea that will want my wife and daughter to come
along, then you'll have hit a real winner... I haven't even told
them about this event yet... I know how they usually receive news
like this... "oh. guess we'll go to the mall then..." or something
like that. They do not get into wheelin', especially with groups...
oh well... However, we've never been to Rainer, so it might be
something that will work.
So, here's the possiblities presented so far:
Rainier
Naches
Peninsula
Pilchuck
Big Four Ice Caves
Elbe
ttyl,
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:18:31 -0700 From: Marc Bowers <mebowers-at-off-road.com> Subject: Re: Hi there & latebreaking FSJ news.. john meister wrote: > > Howdy Dan! > > Whereabouts in the Beaver State do you live? I used to live in K. > Falls, Troutdale and Portland before moving up north of Seattle. > > We're planning another FSJ-fest on Saturday July 5th. I know of at > least one FSJ'r coming from Idaho, maybe two. Possibly one coming > from Portland (we just have to make sure he doesn't get into a > situation where he has to back up... reverse is out... :-), Someone > from Truckee, California even mentioned the possiblity of coming up. > > We've also got one of our Charter Members up in Vancouver, BC, hoping > that he'll be able to come down as well. > > The first FSJ-fest was pretty successful, nobody broke anything, > almost all of the pictures came out nice and we even had sunshine. > > We're trying to get as many FSJ's together as possible for photos and > possibly get our activities published in Four Wheeler magazine. > > The Off-Road.com site has been written up in Motor Trend as one of > the five excellent places to surf. I'll scan the page in that > talks about us. (March 97, pg 107) > > I'm the Full-Size Jeep page editor. No pay, just "glory"... :-) > > I believe I've met the most of those of us on the FSJ-list. I met > doc when I went down to Florida to see my folks. I met three of the > FSJ'rs in CA when I went down on a business trip, even went wheelin > with Tom and Dan down in Santa Barbara. > > There are a bunch on the list I'd like to meet. Last summer Mark > Wallace drove his 81 Wagoneer across the country trying to meet as > many of us as possible as he came out to pick up his brother. > > Hope you can make it up here in July for our get together. > > BTW, late breaking FSJ news. It seems one of the editors from > Cherokee America is planning a defection to the FSJ pages!!! After > years of wheeling with his xj cherokee he's determined that SJ's are > the best for the job. Not sure when he'll join the list, but he > asked me yesterday if he would be able to contribute to the FSJ pages > as well as the xj pages. His first 4x4 was a mid 70's Wagoneer with > a 401 that sorta got wiped out during someone's driving lesson... > luckily the telephone pole didn't fall over, but the Wagoneer had a > bent frame and all... He's looking at a J-series pickup with a > stepside. > > HERE's his announcement to his Cherokee America (XJ) co-editor: > " On another note: I am thinking about retiring my Cherokee from > extreme trail use. After I noticed my steering box was moving around > because the structure is getting weak I really began to rethink some > of my longterm goals a bit. I am just having a hard time swallowing > the idea of spending several thousand dollars to change everything > under this Jeep to stuff from another Jeep. Don't get me wrong here, > I have no intent of abandoning Cherokees, just am thinking about > adding a rig to my "collection" for use in about 10% of my wheeling > situations. My concern is that if I continue to push this uni-body > the way I have been it will at some point fail. I like my Jeep to > much to do this to it. I am looking towards finding an old J series > truck to build as they use massive running gear, have a frame, and > are cheap. Just gonna keep my eyes open for now and see what I run > across. I figure a J-truck will also serve as a run to the dump > vehicle and in my case I will be disregarding any body damage. Marc" > > Marc Bowers has several years experience as a Jeep mechanic. He is > ASE certified and Chrysler certified. If I'm unable to find a shop > that will do the lift in exchange for some free web advertising, then > Marc and I will do the lift at his house. > > You ought to see the skid plate he built under his Cherokee... ONE > QUARTER INCH PLATE STEEL... There will be a picture of it on > Cherokee America soon as he writes the article, or I'll park it up on > my pages somewhere... I scanned his pictures in last night. > > I'm going to try and write my evaluation of the little wagoneer's > lift in such a way that both XJ and SJ owners will benefit. Seems > that a number of us have both. Marc noticed this as well and we'll > put our collective thoughts together to tastefully combine the sites. > It's a challenge though, in looking over a yard full of xj and sj > jeeps we determined that there isn't much in common... let's see > the front driveshaft u-joints, the steering boxes... uhhhhhhh.... > can I get some help here??? :-) > > If y'all have any suggestions on format to make the FSJ site more > interesting or easier to navigate, feel free to let me know. I > think what I'll do is build a "link" index of what's available on > Cherokee America so you won't miss any interesting technical articles > on that side, and vice versa for the FSJ side. > > Thanx again to all who have contributed how-to's and photos. If you > think you can write a better how to, or a different one, feel free to > do so. Once I get caught up on building what I have in the queue, > I'm going to go back through each page and article and clean them up > some. > > later, > john meister > > > > > > > Hi Dan, nice to hear from you. Living in Oregon, you may be > > interested in > > our Pacific Northwest association, they'll have lots of specific > > information as far as sources and stuff in your area, at least > > within a couple of states, I'm sure <grin>. They also are planning > > get-togethers. > > > > Their fearless leader is John. You'll hear from him, I guarantee > > <grin>. > > > > I also invite you to check out some other fine FSJ sites, such as > > the FSJ Section of ORC site -- > > <http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj> John's home page -- > > <http://www./~john> Mark's J-truck Page > > <http://www.mindspring.com/~jsego/jeep/index.html> > > > > At 09:33 AM 5/24/97 -0700, you wrote: > > >I just ran across your pages and have really enjoyed what i've seen. My > > >name is Dan Dunn, live in Oregon and have a 82' J10 stepside. I have had > > >other jeep trucks before this one, but it is my favorite, (also have an > > >XJ and ZJ). Now that I know you are there as I update my truck i'll keep > > >in contact, gonna' be looking for parts like everyone else! > > > > > >See ya! > > >Dan > > > > > >ddunn-at-hq.tcfarm.com > > > > > > > > > > | > > | > > | | > > | ============= | > > 0_| / \ |_o > > |_|_____----+-----____|_| > > |====|=====|=====|====| > > ||____|_____|_____|____|| > > \_____|___|DOC|___|_____/ > > |\/\/|--------\_/--|\/\/| > > ______|\/\/|_____________|\/\/|______ > > > > Home of the "Bottomless Transfer Case" > > _____________________________________ > > > > email: fariello-at-inspace.net > > http://www.inspace.net/~fariello/fsj > > _____________________________________ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > john-at- http://www./~john > Snohomish, WA - where JEEPS don't rust, they mold... > http://www./~john/statement.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Full Size Jeep Page Editor - http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj > Pacific Northwest Regional IFSJA Coordinator > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, it appears I have convinced my girlfriend (of almost 6 years!) that buying another FSJ is a good idea. Now hopefully I can convince the owner of the old J-truck I want to sell it cheap! I will keep you all posted, Marc Bowers[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:29:34 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: foam versus cloth
> you very much. Ya wanna trust your motor to Amsoil, fine, but not
> me. Remember, John... we're talking mud, goo, water, and such, such
> as you've most likely never seen in your entire life. In addition
> to salt at the beach, and dust and silt out west.
let's see, take a piece of foam soaked with oil, say about 1/4 inch
thick, and then take some cotton gauze, wetted with oil, and then
hold them both under a faucet, measure flow... and when you get
done, see if there are any voids in the material.
let's see, one million miles versus lifetime, which one is longer?
:-)
The difference in use is more likely the difference in distribution.
I'm sure there'd be more in use if they were sold in more stores.
Think of this though, how many Rolls Royce dealers have you seen?
Now, let's compare a Rolls to a Chevy. Is the Chevy better because
more racers use them? (and then you'd have to ask, better in what
way? <g> )
Sometimes facts only confuse people.
john
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