From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Oct 14 09:23:22 2000 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, October 14 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1066 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: wow fsj: Re: wagoneer with delivery doos fsj: Re: got it down to 5, no 2 choices... :) fsj: late 80's colors fsj: color chart 1988, SuperDawg... fsj: the articals in JP Mag. fsj: Re: [jeep] Re: A free Hummer.......... fsj: the deciding factor... color choice... Re: fsj: the deciding factor... color choice... Re: fsj: Re: [jeep] Re: A free Hummer.......... Re: fsj: Re: [jeep] Re: A free Hummer.......... fsj: What's in a name? fsj: Re: What's in a name? Re: fsj: What's in a name? fsj: Re: Blackie's parts list FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:37:12 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: wow > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:38:51 -0700 > From: john > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=462048019& > r=0&t=0 I've never paid that much for a set of wheels! Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:44:46 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: wagoneer with delivery doos > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:48:32 -0600 > From: "Gaylon Holmes" > > I'm on it. Just got off the phone with the yard and he is going to let me > know what it is exactly and I'll run down and check it out. > > Like I need another project!! Oh man, this list is cool! If one of these fell into the hands of a lister, we might actually have a shot at reproducing those doors. That issue aside, this thing needs saving and it would be great to see it happen. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:12:16 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: got it down to 5, no 2 choices... :) antique white can look so nasty on an FSJ when they get older though... (no offense to white colored FSJ owners of course. ;) #2 or #3 is where I think I'm heading. Light ivory creme was my first choice from the beginning... it's only because of my wife's initial rejection of it that caused me to look at other colors. However, when she saw what Karl had put together she liked it... go figure, eh? :) #2 has some potential as well, many late model FSJ's had a similar color and look great, also my '83 300SD has a champagne color that looks very nice too... So I'm somewhere toggling between light ivory creme and a champagne/sand color. :) john At 01:33 PM 10/13/00 -0700, Wes Molsberry wrote: >Feedback........... > > 1 = silver/gray (cheap looking, oxidizes too fast) > 2 = light brown/tan/beige (boring, but low maintenance. I had a > van this >color - trouble free) > 3 = light ivory creme (might as well go with antique white, > everything >will match it) > 4 = black cherry (Nice, but it will always look dirty) > 5 = original: copper brown metallic (no problem with the interior > and door >jambs, I''ll wager.) > >I've always liked a metalic medium blue. You didn't mention that though! - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ "The truth which makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." ---Herbert Sebastian Agar Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:27:24 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: late 80's colors >Date: 13 Oct 00 10:29:35 MDT >From: Michael Shimniok >Subject: Re: [Re: fsj: Re: got it down to 5 choices... :)] > >My all-time favorite FSJ color is the gold metallic color on mid-80's >Grand Wagoneers. A friend of mine has an 84 GW without the wood >panelling and it looks great! I've got my color charts out... from '89: Sand Irid. looks really nice, kind of a gold beige. from '88 there is three that might work: Buff Yellow (same as light ivory creme) Lt. Driftwood Poly or Dk Driftwood Poly from '91: Lt. Rosewood P/C Lt. Champagne Poly. these off of a PPG color chart I bought off ebay. john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ "The truth which makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." ---Herbert Sebastian Agar Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:51:32 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: color chart 1988, SuperDawg... I have purchased way too much Mercedes and Jeep literature off of ebay... :) One of the items I purchased was color charts for a wide variety of years of Jeeps. In trying to decide the best color for my '83 J10 Stepside I keep coming back to what I know looks good whether clean or dirty, what hides the scratches, can be applied by way of rattle can and still look reasonable... http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/Colors/select.html ...the color that is the easiest to apply, easiest to maintain, looks good if abused, hey, it even looked good after taking out a tree... ;), is the color on the little wagoneer. The "light ivory creme" or "buff yellow". It comes by a variety of names, but the color remains the same... hey, that sounds like a title of a song... but I digress. :) The color code is CB, I just popped the hood and verified it. So I scanned in the 1988 AMC color samples and put them in two sizes, one way too big, the other a tad bit too small. :) find them at: http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/ http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/1988-amc-colors-small.jpg http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/1988-AMC-colors.jpg I have color charts for Jeep for 77, 81, 83, 86, 89, 91 and possibly some others. I also have the color chips for '83, '85 and possibly '90 Benz's... The problem with the other colors that I like is the fact that they are metal flake and base coat/clear coat. That complicates the prep work and drives the cost up. The little wagoneer was painted with a polyurethane without a clear coat almost three years ago, has been washed maybe 10 times since then. ;) and looks great... Thanx for all your advice and input... Of course, if you know me, I'll get in to the paint shop and decide to go with champagne, or irid. sand, or safety orange, or flaming mushrooms, or oxidized blue or... ;) john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ "The truth which makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." ---Herbert Sebastian Agar Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 23:09:30 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: fsj: the articals in JP Mag. If you want to see a neat informative, at good pictorial guide to redoing your Motor craft 2100 series Carb.. and also want check out.. how to replace the gas tank with a new coffin style plastic gas tank .. Then please go out and get the November issue.. This is not spam.. I just don't have a way of getting scanned and put up some where.. besides isn't that copyright infringement? Anyway.. I thought it was good.. but the hey.. that's just my opinion.. Thanks! R.J. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 23:18:33 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: fsj: Re: [jeep] Re: A free Hummer.......... my Wagoneer has a very tight Turn radius.. depends on the year.. true you can't take a stock off.. but you can modify them. We go on trails all the time.. Except we don't beat the heck out of them.. I like the baby Jeeps too.. for the really tight places.. But for all around , all around town, and for safety.. FSJ's are best. But I think the Biased opinions against FSJ's are unfounded by people who have never owned one They were there before the crappy SUV's of today,.. they tried and true.. R.J. Dave McDonald wrote: > Rotten turning radius, non-removable tops - I guess if that's what > you > like then they're perfect... Although you guys with FSJs can carry > more stuff than us SWB types. All that stuff won't help tho when the > turns get tight - I guess FSJs are good for getting to the trailhead > :) > > Dave > > > --- In jeep-at-egroups.com, "R.J. Baynum" wrote: > > that's your opinion.. feeble as it may be.. > > When you really have a good FSJ you would understand. > > More horsepower and low end torque... and not just big tires.. > > > > > > R.J. > > > > Dave McDonald wrote: > > > > > And not much good for anything else... > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In jeep-at-egroups.com, "R.J. Baynum" wrote: > > > > My FSJ J-10 Honcho is a Tow truck for baby jeeps > > > > > > > > R.J. > > > > > > > > 1FSJ-at-egroups.com > > > > > > > > Jeep2Deep-at-c... wrote: > > > > > > > > > This link was on my clubs website and I just wanted to pass it > > > around if > > > > > anyone is interested. Seems like a good cause and I know I'm > > > willing to cough > > > > > up less than $100.00 for a 1 in 3030 chance of getting my > hands > > > on > > > the beast. > > > > > Personally I spend more than $100.00 a year on Lotto tickets > and > > > the chances > > > > > of that are 1 in 17,000,000. Imagine what a tow vehicle a > HUMMER > > > would make! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.hummerraffle.com/ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Joe Pollick > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> > Get free updates on your stocks from any phone with Tellme! > Click here and you can even personalize these quotes. > http://click.egroups.com/1/9536/13/_/314686/_/971466403/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:34:59 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: the deciding factor... color choice... Wes said: >Subject: Re: got it down to 5 choices... :) >Feedback........... > 1 = silver/gray (cheap looking, oxidizes too fast) > 2 = light brown/tan/beige (boring, but low maintenance. I had a > van this > color - trouble free) > 3 = light ivory creme (might as well go with antique white, > everything > will match it) > 4 = black cherry (Nice, but it will always look dirty) > 5 = original: copper brown metallic (no problem with the interior > and door jambs, I'll wager.) >I've always liked a metalic medium blue. You didn't mention that though! Metallic anything would be cool... but the problem is we're dealing with an 18 year old truck with imperfections... if we try to get too fancy I'll run up a bill well into the thousands. To get the kind of paint job I'd really like I could expect to pay at least three grand, and to do it right easily five grand! I can't afford to build my garage, I'm not gonna sink thousands into a paint job. I know that with this color in the polyurethane I can trust Maaco to shoot it nicely for less than $1,500 and get a nice quality looking job. They did fine work on my '88 xj when I had them shoot the pieces after I totaled it. I may be able to get the job done for less than a grand, I had one quote of $599 with one of their sales. I'm willing to pay them a bit more for a better job and they seem to work well with folks. I did look at Earl Scheib's. rofl... I'll spray it myself first... with rattle cans.... ;) (I did paint my '64 VW Karman Ghia that way... light blue in fact, can you say "orange peel"? I knew you could... ;) I'm going to do some of the prep work, mainly dealing with a few spots of surface rust so I don't have to deal with it later. :) Wes's comments, along with several others, brought me back to reality, and of course my initial choice of color. (Wes is my FSJ friend in Southern Oregon that bailed me out of trouble when the Honcho blew the alternator. He came to my rescue with parts and tools and got me back on the road! Can't tell you how much that meant to me and my family! thanx again buddy! :) anyway, I modified the select page to show the more likely prospect of colors: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/Colors/select.html Now, all that remains is finding the bucks and time to get it done... Of course I have to put the wheels back on first don't I? :) Going to finish up the auxillary fuel tank and try to throw the 2" blocks on the rear and reinstall my Rancho 9000s sometime tonight or this weekend. It's mizzling outside now, but isn't too cold... later, john - ----------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com 67 J3000 (SJ) / 88 wagoneer ltd (xj) / 83 J10 stepside (SJ) http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 00:11:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: the deciding factor... color choice... A: Hey John! You saw the Urkle Scheib paint job on my '86 Dodge van didn't you? They didn't even wash the van before painting, and now the roof, door edges and hinges are all peeling! Even the glass was sprayed in places! John wrote: Wes said: Subject: Re: got it down to 5 choices... :) Feedback...........                 1 = silver/gray (cheap looking, oxidizes too fast)         2 = light brown/tan/beige (boring, but low maintenance. I had a van this            color - trouble free)                 3 = light ivory creme (might as well go with antique white, everything                                 will match it)                   4 = black cherry (Nice, but it will always look dirty)         5 = original: copper brown metallic (no problem with the interior and door       jambs, I'll wager.) I've always liked a metalic medium blue. You didn't mention that though! Metallic anything would be cool... but the problem is we're dealing with an 18 year old truck with imperfections... if we try to get too fancy I'll run up a bill well into the thousands. To get the kind of paint job I'd really like I could expect to pay at least three grand, and to do it right easily five grand! I can't afford to build my garage, I'm not gonna sink thousands into a paint job. I know that with this color in the polyurethane I can trust Maaco to shoot it nicely for less than $1,500 and get a nice quality looking job. They did fine work on my '88 xj when I had them shoot the pieces after I totaled it. I may be able to get the job done for less than a grand, I had one quote of $599 with one of their sales. I'm willing to pay them a bit more for a better job and they seem to work well with folks. I did look at Earl Scheib's. rofl... I'll spray it myself first... with rattle cans.... ;) (I did paint my '64 VW Karman Ghia that way... light blue in fact, can you say "orange peel"? I knew you could... ;) I'm going to do some of the prep work, mainly dealing with a few spots of surface rust so I don't have to deal with it later. :) Wes's comments, along with several others, brought me back to reality, and of course my initial choice of color.   (Wes is my FSJ friend in Southern Oregon that bailed me out of trouble when the Honcho blew the alternator. He came to my rescue with parts and tools and got me back on the road! Can't tell you how much that meant to me and my family! thanx again buddy! :) anyway, I modified the select page to show the more likely prospect of colors:   http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/Colors/select.html Now, all that remains is finding the bucks and time to get it done... Of course I have to put the wheels back on first don't I?   :)   Going to finish up the auxillary fuel tank and try to throw the 2" blocks on the rear and reinstall my Rancho 9000s sometime tonight or this weekend. It's mizzling outside now, but isn't too cold... later, john ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 00:19:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re: [jeep] Re: A free Hummer.......... A: Elmo had a tighter turning radius than 2 CJ7s that tried to turn around on a trail. My wife's '99 Ranger needs 3.5 lanes to do a U-turn, and I turned Elmo around between the curbs on 2 lane streets! I think Blackie's radius will be fairly tight too, even though it's wider track than Elmo and longer wheelbase. My new tires are 33" tall, but only 10.5" wide and the rims are 1/2" more outward offset. RJ wrote: my Wagoneer has a very tight Turn radius.. depends on the year.. true you can't take a stock off.. but you can modify them. We go on trails all the time.. Except we don't beat the heck out of them.. I like the baby Jeeps too.. for the really tight places.. But for all around , all around town, and for safety.. FSJ's are best. But I think the Biased opinions against FSJ's are unfounded by people who have never owned one They were there before the crappy SUV's of today,.. they tried and true.. R.J. Dave McDonald wrote: Rotten turning radius, non-removable tops - I guess if that's what you like then they're perfect... Although you guys with FSJs can carry more stuff than us SWB types. All that stuff won't help tho when the turns get tight - I guess FSJs are good for getting to the trailhead :) Dave - --- In ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 01:31:42 -0600 From: "Kim Smith" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: [jeep] Re: A free Hummer.......... The determining factors are, in order: 1) What are the maximum turn stops on the axle housing set at? 2)How wide are the tires? 3)What is the offset of the wheels? My Wagoneer turns in a tighter circle than my '69 Land Cruiser did. ************************************************************************* Kim Smith 1980 Wagoneer "Joe", 360,2v,727,219 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Blair" To: "R.J. Baynum" ; ; <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> Sent: 14 October, 2000 01:19 Subject: Re: fsj: Re: [jeep] Re: A free Hummer.......... > A: Elmo had a tighter turning radius than 2 CJ7s that tried to turn > around on a trail. My wife's '99 Ranger needs 3.5 lanes to do a U-turn, > and I turned Elmo around between the curbs on 2 lane streets! > I think Blackie's radius will be fairly tight too, even though it's > wider track than Elmo and longer wheelbase. My new tires are 33" tall, > but only 10.5" wide and the rims are 1/2" more outward offset. > > RJ wrote: > my Wagoneer has a very tight Turn radius.. depends on the year.. true > you can't take a stock off.. but you can modify them. > We go on trails all the time.. Except we don't beat the heck out of > them.. I like the baby Jeeps too.. for the really tight places.. But for > all around , all around town, and for safety.. FSJ's are best. But I > think the Biased opinions against FSJ's are unfounded by people who have > never owned one > They were there before the crappy SUV's of today,.. they tried and > true.. > R.J. > Dave McDonald wrote: > Rotten turning radius, non-removable tops - I guess if that's what you > like then they're perfect... Although you guys with FSJs can carry more > stuff than us SWB types. All that stuff won't help tho when the turns > get tight - I guess FSJs are good for getting to the trailhead :) undies donned> > Dave > --- In > > ************************************* > JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 > http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html > ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 00:42:36 -0700 From: "Karl-at-Nookit.com" Subject: fsj: What's in a name? So, when I pick up the '77 wag from John, it's gonna need a good name, I guess, as you guys keep referring to Elmo, Old Blue, Superdawg, Blackie, I think I saw a 'Joe' a while back... Any suggestions? Haven't figured out what color it's gonna be yet, so that's no help, but we have narrowed it down to 15 schemes on the 'paint booth' ( www.nookit.com/JeepsandStuff/paintbooth.asp) page. hehe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 01:47:51 -0600 From: "Kim Smith" Subject: fsj: Re: What's in a name? Well, in my case, J0E [jay-zero-ee] happen to be the first three characters of the VIN. ************************************************************************* Kim Smith 1980 Wagoneer "Joe", 360,2v,727,219 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl-at-Nookit.com" To: "full size jeep list" Sent: 14 October, 2000 01:42 Subject: fsj: What's in a name? > So, when I pick up the '77 wag from John, it's gonna need a good name, I > guess, as you guys keep referring to Elmo, Old Blue, Superdawg, Blackie, I > think I saw a 'Joe' a while back... > > Any suggestions? Haven't figured out what color it's gonna be yet, so that's > no help, but we have narrowed it down to 15 schemes on the 'paint booth' ( > www.nookit.com/JeepsandStuff/paintbooth.asp) page. hehe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 01:18:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: What's in a name? A: Pickacolor and get back to us! If the yellow and black goes, then perhaps s'cool bus! (my fav Big Daddy/ ratfink CARtoon) Karl wrote: So, when I pick up the '77 wag from John, it's gonna need a good name, I guess, as you guys keep referring to Elmo, Old Blue, Superdawg, Blackie, I think I saw a 'Joe' a while back... Any suggestions? Haven't figured out what color it's gonna be yet, so that's no help, but we have narrowed it down to 15 schemes on the 'paint booth' ( www.nookit.com/JeepsandStuff/paintbooth.asp) page. hehe ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 01:45:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: Re: Blackie's parts list (So far) STROKER PARTS LIST (and J10 stuff) *Wakefield Sperling: Motor mounts Energy Suspension 2.1102G CDN $80.00 Trans mount Energy Suspension 3.1108G CDN $40.00 Motor Parts Silvolite #2228 .030 pistons           154.50 Hastings rings 2M667030               49.75 ROD BEARINGS CB960P10         40.44 MAIN BEARINGS MS704P20         79.37 CAM BEARINGS SH549S             30.01 VICTOR GASKETS FS5713         111.66 VALVE SEATS SB1562-1N             32.16 RODS RESIZED ('83 4.2L)             71.58 Labour HOT TANK 4.0L BLOCK                 45.00 BORE 4.0L 0.030 6 CYL                 86.40 RESURFACE 4.0L BLOCK             81.00 MAGNAFLUX 4.0L BLOCK             37.80 INSTALL CAM BEARINGS             32.40 GRIND '83 4.2L CRANK (MINE)   138.60 3 WAY VALVE GRIND '88 HEAD   210.00 INSTALL 6 STAINLESS? SEATS     86.40 VALVE GUIDES AND SHL PLUG   26.08 SHOP EQUIP AND DISPOSAL       25.08 PST                                               91.92 GST                                               93.67 __________________________________ TOTAL                             $CDN 1523.74 *Olympic 4x4 parts: 4.0L CYLINDER HEAD CORE US 160.00 4.0L Valve cover                             34.00 4.0L flywheel ('88)                         40.00 2" body lift kit (perf access #902)   87.95 *A United parts AW4 auto trans from '95 XJ   CDN 570.00 *Gitt springs 3" custom lift   2 MX Q97-402A     310.04 3" custom lift   2 MZ Q97-491A     295.62 TAX                                               52.09 TOTAL                                   US 657.75 SPRING UBOLTS                           67.33 *LES SCHWAB TIRES Avon LT255/85R/16 tires (33.5"x10.5") + '88 Chev 4x2 aluminum 16" rims 950.00 *VANCOUVER CORE SUPPLY CORE 4.0L block                         100.00 '99 4.0L Crank Girdle                     75.00 #707 V8 RODS (WRONG ONES)   60.00 *PRECISION DRIVESHAFTS AND DIFFS MODEL 20 CHROME COVER         40.64 *B&B PARTS TRANS COOLER                           10.00 MODEL 20 SEALS AND BEARINGS ABB M86649         pinion inner         7.79 ABB M86610         pinion outer         3.59 ABB LM501314 WHEEL           2 of   8.58 ABB LM501349   side carrier     2 of 16.38 ABS 7687S       AXLE SEALS 2 of   9.38 total with tax                       approx 50.00 Brake shoes FR462   (or 474)         16.99 Brake hold down kit H7208               9.49 Brake pads *1-800-RADIATOR #583 3 CORE CJ RAD (FITS J10) 125.00 *PERPETUAL BALANCE Balanced 4.2L crank and rods, and 4.0L pistons, flywheel and balancer *PARTS AMERICA.COM Oil pump kit Dynagear DK-81A       16.00? Timing gear set DYN 73079           50.00? *PRIVATE PARTS USED LOW MILEAGE HO CAM   $35.00 +3" Trailmaster shocks from Jerry 40.00 FROM '89 CHEROKEE parts truck Complete EFI, sensors, waterpump, trans computer, engine brackets, accessories and exhaust manifold + gas tank and fuel lines (other stuff too)                                     APPROX $250.00 MODEL 20 AND DANA 44 3.31 GEARS                                    APPROX $250.00 160 KMPH speedo from Pic-A-Part   20.00 *PARTS I HAD ALREADY '83 4.2L (from my Eagle) for rods and crank for stroker '84 J10 with NP208 $1000.00 A: Still more to go before final assembly! ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1066 **************************