From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Oct 15 08:49:48 2000 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, October 15 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1067 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: New to list Re: fsj: What's in a name? fsj: Bug trouble Re: fsj: What's in a name? Re: fsj: New to list Re: fsj: What's in a name? fsj: Re: How can I find someone to fix my '85 Wagoneer? fsj: Aftermarket mech temp gauge fsj: Engine pics fsj: Re: [1FSJ] BigJeep Poll Reset! fsj: Re: color chart 1988, SuperDawg... fsj: 23.9mpg and 2 days... fsj: $162.50! (ebay) Re: fsj: $162.50! (ebay) Re: fsj: $162.50! (ebay) fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Re: fsj: Re: How can I find someone to fix my '85 Wagoneer? Re: fsj: CJ seats - was ideas for spare location... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:23:37 -0700 From: "allyoop" Subject: fsj: New to list I'm working on a '73 J4000 Townside with 360 4V and Quadratrack. (since color's been on the list recently, I'll mention that it wears original Daisy Yellow (F-4) on the lower panels, with Snow White (A-1) above. Paint's good enough to try keeping, except in the bed. The body's surprisingly straight for a 27-year-old truck, and the motor runs well (Pertronix point replacment helped) but the interior got wet when the windows were out, so the seat's mildewed. I tried to install a pair of buckets, but quickly learned that big transfer case hump in the floor made it impossible to put the seat I found in the passenger side -- the seat base was too wide, and ran into the hump. Anybody have a solution, or a source for Wagoneer or other seats that would fit? Also I would appreciate suggestions regarding the 12 inch brakes (five lug). I understand it's almost impossible to get replacement drums, but they can be replaced with disks -- maybe from a Wrangler. Walt Greenwood Everett, WA 9803 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:24:24 EDT From: BWFerg-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: What's in a name? hey.... i need a name too for my 83 wagoneer. everyone like to call her woody, but thats not too original. she's that darker brown color that u see. i was thinkin rusty hahahah (having nothing to do with the color) bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:28:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) Subject: fsj: Bug trouble A: Anyone that has been on the AMC-list the last 24 hours, watch out! The worm has been updated to attack Win '98 Outlurk users. F-Secure Computer Virus Information Pages: K ak http://www.datafellows.fi/v-descs/k ak.htm ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '83 Cher 4dr, '84 J10 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** http://www.datafellows.fi/v-descs/kak.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:54:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: What's in a name? A: Brownie? Crusty? What's it's personality? Bryan wrote: hey.... i need a name too for my 83 wagoneer. everyone like to call her woody, but thats not too original. she's that darker brown color that u see. i was thinkin rusty hahahah (having nothing to do with the color) bryan ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: New to list A: Perhaps Eagle seats would work. I have a pair of brown ones, but no tracks for free. Right and left are stepped for the trans hump in the Eagle. Walt wrote: I'm working on a '73 J4000 Townside with 360 4V and Quadratrack. (since color's been on the list recently, I'll mention that it wears original Daisy Yellow (F-4) on the lower panels, with Snow White (A-1) above. Paint's good enough to try keeping, except in the bed. The body's surprisingly straight for a 27-year-old truck, and the motor runs well (Pertronix point replacment helped) but the interior got wet when the windows were out, so the seat's mildewed. I tried to install a pair of buckets, but quickly learned that big transfer case hump in the floor made it impossible to put the seat I found in the passenger side -- the seat base was too wide, and ran into the hump. Anybody have a solution, or a source for Wagoneer or other seats that would fit? Also I would appreciate suggestions regarding the 12 inch brakes (five lug). I understand it's almost impossible to get replacement drums, but they can be replaced with disks -- maybe from a Wrangler. Walt Greenwood Everett, WA 9803 ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:25:29 EDT From: BWFerg-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: What's in a name? well, crusty would be more suitable than brownie, thats for sure hahaha. personality, huh? well, the wag is my one true love (hahaha....probably because i spend more time working on it then going out with people) so judging by my girl experience, i would have to say BITCHY. umm seriously though, personality....obviously RUGGED. we have fun with her. part of the family. i cant imagine a wagoneer as anything other than that though..... bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:20:30 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: How can I find someone to fix my '85 Wagoneer? On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Ringo-gay, Timothy W wrote: "Ringo-gay, Timothy W" >-->I have a 1985 Jeep Wagoneer. It has 2.5L carbureted 4-cylinder engine with >-->a California emissions system. I feel like it's always in the shop, but it >-->never comes back running quite right. I suspect this is because the general >-->car mechanics of today don't really know their 15-year-old carbureted >-->engines. Do you know of anyone in the Houston, Texas area who really knows >-->these engines, who would be willing to look at the car for a reasonable >-->price? Can you tell me how to find a good mechanic who specializes in these >-->engines? Thank you for your time. don't know of anyone, but I'll forward this to a couple of Jeep lists in hope that they might. You could alwasy find a non-california carb to swap onto it, or upgrade it to an 86 and up 2.5L fuel injection setup. john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:58:24 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Aftermarket mech temp gauge Anybody added an aftermarket mechanical temp gauge to the stock intake manifold? Where'd you put the sending unit? The stock hole is way too small for anything I've ever seen. Poking one in the thermostat housing might work, but it'd be on the wrong side of the thermostat. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:58:23 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Engine pics Anybody got pics of A/C mounting on a '78-ish 360? I can't find my notes on bracket orientation. All that's left to do is trial-mount the compressor and then move everything that's in the way. : ( I think if I keep working on getting the A/C installed this winter, I might get it done by spring. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 21:22:32 -0400 From: "Ray Drouillard" Subject: fsj: Re: [1FSJ] BigJeep Poll Reset! Perhaps someone can download the Java Script and modify it a bit for the use of the FSJers :-) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "TLynn" To: <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [1FSJ] BigJeep Poll Reset! > It won't let me vote more than once! IT"S RIGGED! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael" > To: <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 18:42 > Subject: [1FSJ] BigJeep Poll Reset! > > > Ummm.....told you guys this would happen...though it didn't happen as soon > as I thought! The "bigjeep.com" poll was reset, and the SJs are WAY behind > right now.....after my ONE vote, we're up to "3"....yes, "3" total votes! > CJs have 958....... > > Put those D20s and QTs in low gear and hear over there gang......get your > votes in! > > http://www.bigjeep.com > > Munky > > > To Subscribe send an email to: 1FSJ-subscribe-at-egroups.com > To Unsubscribe send an email to: 1FSJ-unsubscribe-at-egroups.com Visit Our > homepage: http://www.egroups.com/group/1FSJ > > > > > To Subscribe send an email to: 1FSJ-subscribe-at-egroups.com > To Unsubscribe send an email to: 1FSJ-unsubscribe-at-egroups.com Visit Our homepage: http://www.egroups.com/group/1FSJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:29:31 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: color chart 1988, SuperDawg... If you have color charts for early '70s it's worth a big, wet, sloppy kiss. My '71 has no paint code tag where it's supposed to be and a paint-code-looking tag where it shouldn't be. The numbers don't match any of the printed material I got off the ANZAC web site a year or so ago. Ben John wrote: >I have color charts for Jeep for 77, 81, 83, 86, 89, 91 and possibly some >others. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 21:07:55 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: 23.9mpg and 2 days... Just got back from a run down to Tacoma to help the neighbor, my wife and her had an overheating problem with her mustang... I kind of enjoyed pointing out that an 18 year old car was used to rescue a 6 year old car... ;) Tanked up the 300SD when I got back, 23.9mpg... :( Of course the needle was pointing at 80 mph a few times on the way down there... on the way back found out it's only about 5 mph off... oops. :} 2 days left on the auction... part of me wants it to sell, part of me doesn't... I found a nice 90 grand wagoneer the same color for pretty cheap... very tempting... what I'd do is try to find a nice 3.0L MB Turbo Diesel and install it in SuperDawg. Would work nice in the J10 with the 5 speed. Then after that project I'd probably put a 4.0L in the 90 GW. Yeah, right... it's taken me how long to get this auxillary tank in my J10? I made a little progress today before going to town for parts and getting called to rescue a mustang... :) I can hardly wait to take SuperDawg up and see how big the auxillary tank is. :) it's cold outside... :( It'll be a couple weeks before I get concrete in the carport, called the concrete guy today... my pc has been defragging the 8.0 gig drive now for over 24 hours! don't ya just love win98? john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 21:25:19 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: $162.50! (ebay) those wheel covers went for $162.50! john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:46:44 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: Re: fsj: $162.50! (ebay) you know.. I could see that.. really! I mean if you want it to look nice.. maybe put it in a collector's show even.. then yeah.. I would spend that much.. R.J. john wrote: > those wheel covers went for $162.50! > > john > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com > don't leave life without Jesus, please... > Snohomish, Washington USA > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 21:51:37 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: $162.50! (ebay) On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, R.J. Baynum wrote: >-->you know.. I could see that.. really! I mean if you want it to look nice.. maybe put >-->it in a collector's show even.. then yeah.. I would spend that much.. >-->R.J. they weren't even the painted ones... :) plain old chrome. :) there are some thing that are worth investing in... But one could almost buy a complete set of white spoke rims and covers for them... ;) john >--> >-->john wrote: >--> >-->> those wheel covers went for $162.50! >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com >-->> don't leave life without Jesus, please... >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 02:15:00 -0400 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 8/30/00; Demime added, new HTML rules as a result, new spammer block list on web to replace Special Note] Special Note The list of alleged spammers which previously appeared here has been replaced by the new URL http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. 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For more information, see the web site for Krusty. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:51:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re: How can I find someone to fix my '85 Wagoneer? A: Actually, the best bet is an '88 Chev S10 4cyl TBI setup and Howell wiring kit. Other than that, go with a '91 or newer EFI and head (or whole motor for 1.5 times as much power) as the '86 to '90 Renix TBI parts for 4 cyl has been dropped, and was cranky to begin with. On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Ringo-gay, Timothy W wrote: "Ringo-gay, Timothy W" I have a 1985 Jeep Wagoneer. It has 2.5L carbureted 4-cylinder engine with a California emissions system. I feel like it's always in the shop, but it never comes back running quite right. I suspect this is because the general car mechanics of today don't really know their 15-year-old carbureted engines. Do you know of anyone in the Houston, Texas area who really knows these engines, who would be willing to look at the car for a reasonable price? Can you tell me how to find a good mechanic who specializes in these engines? Thank you for your time. don't know of anyone, but I'll forward this to a couple of Jeep lists in hope that they might. You could alwasy find a non-california carb to swap onto it, or upgrade it to an 86 and up 2.5L fuel injection setup. john ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 08:32:28 EDT From: UrbFarmer-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: CJ seats - was ideas for spare location... OK. I'll post how it goes. If I remember, I'll see if I can take pictures. John may even post them on his server if I ask him real nice. :) - --Vince 81 Wag In a message dated 10/11/00 10:11:30 PM Central Daylight Time, Brazzadog-at-aol.com writes: > I'll be interested to see how that works. I snagged some bucket seat > brackets out of a '74 Cherokee this spring. I'm trying to wear out my benck > > seat as fast as I can. : ) I think I rebuilt it too well. > > Ben Williams > '71 Wagoneer > '78 F-250 4x4 > '88 Bronco ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1067 **************************