From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Oct 24 21:05:30 2000 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, October 24 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1080 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: '89 GW on Ebay Re: fsj: Some AMC/ Ralph Nader info fsj: SBC$#%#y to 727 adapter Re: fsj: Some AMC/ Ralph Nader info Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? Re: fsj: Re: 77 Wagoneer w/401 Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? fsj: Tonka J10 on Ebay [none] Re: fsj: Re: 77 Wagoneer w/401 fsj: Fuel Injection Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? fsj: Re: Fuel Injection fsj: re: tailgate woes Re: fsj: re: tailgate woes fsj: TFI juice box kits for 6 cyls fsj: ArcticBoy'sAMC Jeep Jamberoo fsj: Fwd: cable FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:00:58 -0500 From: "Landon Tesar" Subject: fsj: '89 GW on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=472568421 Beautiful '89 GWag, currently at $7100 (5.3 days left). Over 100Kmi, but looks great. Appears to have dual exhaust -- at least dual pipes sticking out the back. It's in Virginia. I'm proud of these vehicles, and this one seems nice, but I feel like I had to watch an infomercial on the thing. The original stereo w/ Jensen speakers does not 'sound great!' It's underpowered and the speakers are too small. The sunroof is nice, but I don't feel 'one with my driving environment...' Good grief. probably has cheapy whitewall tires. - - Landon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:17:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Some AMC/ Ralph Nader info wasn't me! Is someone playing Unix tricks? ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** Received: from smtpin-101-3.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.120) by storefull-254.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtpin-101-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id EC361160; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: carnuck-at-webtv.net Received: from krusty-motorsports.com (krusty1.krusty-motorsports.com [192.94.170.8]) by smtpin-101-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 210C01F2 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordomo by krusty-motorsports.com with local (Exim 3.15 #4) id 13nh69-0007Zf-00 for fsj-out-at-digest.net; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:53:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200010231252.HAA07058-at-isua3.iastate.edu> To: Full Size Jeeps Subject: Re: fsj: Some AMC/ Ralph Nader info From: Dan Black In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:30:36 -0700. <22653-39F0FFCC-1241-at-storefull-258.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:52:54 CDT Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Dan Black Before answering the computer question, a quick eBay URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=472568421 Beautiful '89 GWag, currently at $7100 (5.3 days left). Over 100Kmi, but looks great. Appears to have dual exhaust -- at least dual pipes sticking out the back. It's in Virginia. Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) said: {- Computer question-I just received 20 PC workstations donated to my {- school, non pentium 486s. The district Tech guy says send them back as {- we run Windows NT and these machines can't handle this. Says he can't {- put a Windows 95/98 machine on an NT network for security reasons. Is {- this true? What would some problems be with this, and could we get {- around it? I'm still keeping them as stand alone units if nothing else {- as we just don't have too many computers in this school. NT does have better security than win95/98, but it's still certainly not foolproof. A good admin could make a more secure set of machines using 95/98 than a bad admin with NT. And besides, 486s _can_ run NT4 -- that's what we had in one of our labs when NT4 first came out (just 66MHz). Durn slow, and crashed frequently (though that was, as I said, right when it came out -- no service packs), but they technically worked (as much as you can ever say "Windows works"). Don't know for sure about the latest service packs and MIE and stuff, but I'd guess they'll work, too. Might take a bit of searching to find the right versions of the software. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. -- Robert A. Heinlein - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:30:56 -0500 From: "Landon Tesar" Subject: fsj: SBC$#%#y to 727 adapter I'll take this one, if no one else wants it. Would keep life interesting. - - Landon Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:55:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: eBayMotors item 476248460 (Ends Oct-29-00 09:33:59 PST) - JEEP - Small Block CHEVY bellhousing adapter ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=476248460&r=0&t=0 - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:49:50 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: Some AMC/ Ralph Nader info Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) said: {- wasn't me! Is someone playing Unix tricks? Beats me. I didn't look that closely myself, but I know for a fact that my emailer (mh) checks the reply-to, from, sender, and return-path lines in the headers, in that order. It quotes the first one it finds of those. And that's one of the great things about unix (and mh) -- you can customize it at a very fine level if you want to and know how. :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Out of mind. Back in five minutes. - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:07:07 -0400 From: "Ray (lists)" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? We're the ones who made it through "how to be a good cog in the machine" training without becoming assimilated :-) Ray - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:03 PM Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? > > << Yes, I'm naturally ornery. I don't let that fact keep me from doing what's > best, however. > > Ray Drouillard >> > > > My kinda guy - I love ornery people - Sooo much more interesting. > > > Rob Harrison > 85 Grand Wagoneer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:15:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re: 77 Wagoneer w/401 A: E-oouch! Pressure build up? That's a new one on me! ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** Received: from smtpin-101-6.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.40) by storefull-253.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtpin-101-6.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 4D14B141; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: carnuck-at-webtv.net Received: from krusty-motorsports.com (krusty1.krusty-motorsports.com [192.94.170.8]) by smtpin-101-6.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F60817F for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordomo by krusty-motorsports.com with local (Exim 3.15 #4) id 13nkDu-000193-00 for fsj-out-at-digest.net; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:13:18 -0400 From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:12:15 EDT Subject: fsj: Re: 77 Wagoneer w/401 To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 123 Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Brazzadog-at-aol.com I sent this thread to a non-list buddy with a 77 Wagoneer. His reply is below Jim's. Ben Jim Blair wrote: > > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: 77 wagoneer w/401 > > > > A: I bet it's the connector between the dist and harness. '77 was the > > last year for Presto-no-lite dist, and there was a factory bulletin > > about that. '78-'91 was Motorcraft Duraspark system. The repair is to > > cut the connector out and splice the wires together. Any corrosion > > caused a loss of signal in the hall effect dist. which shuts the engine > > off. Aside from that, hinkey ignition switches can cause trouble too. In a message dated 10/23/00 8:08:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Hi Ben, > I have been meaning to get back to your previous email about the crabs... > er. carbs. I checked in the digest, and did not find the direct email to > the guy with the ignition problem so maybe you can forward this to the list > or to him directly? > > I had this same problem. It was not fun. I found that the pickup coil in > the distributor had a broken wire, and the ignition would just cut right > out, anywhere, anytime. I finally changed the whole system out. I got a > distributor from an '82 360 wagoneer which had the motorcraft pickup. I > bought an MSD 6A electronic ignition module, an put them together as the MSD > instructions said. This totally eliminates the stock ignition, and works > great. MUCH better than stock. It give a great shower of sparks at low > speed, which makes starting in sub-zero temperatures much better. > > On a related note: My jeep has the 360 auto w/ a Doug Nash converted > Quadratrac and hubs. If the ignition fails at sufficient speed, then > driveline can actually push/turn the engine. In my case, this created > pressure in the vacuum lines rather than vacuum. What this did for my jeep > was try to throw it into 4wd at 60MPH without the hubs in. Yep, you guessed > it, it stripped all the 4wd engagement dogs in the Tcase. I was really luck > to get the parts from a parts shop in Florida that still had some parts for > Doug Nash converted Q'tracs. > > I have not had any trouble since the ignition swap was done years ago, and > it starts and idles better and burns cleaner than before too. > > John > 77 Wagoneer (needs driveshafts and springs) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:30:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? A: We learned how to act like cogs, while retaining the individual raw material within! Ray wrote: We're the ones who made it through "how to be a good cog in the machine" training without becoming assimilated :-) Ray - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:03 PM Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? << Yes, I'm naturally ornery. I don't let that fact keep me from doing what's best, however.   Ray Drouillard >> My kinda guy - I love ornery people - Sooo much more interesting. Rob Harrison 85 Grand Wagoneer ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:34:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: Tonka J10 on Ebay A: I probably won't get it, but it's no reserve and my bid is $3.26! ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:48:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: [none] ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/carnuck/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:34:52 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: Re: 77 Wagoneer w/401 In a message dated 10/23/00 3:20:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Carnuck-at-webtv.net writes: > A: E-oouch! Pressure build up? That's a new one on me! I was riding with him the last time it happened. It sounded awful when the 4wd engaged. I figured I'd see the whole drivetrain lying in the road. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:24:24 -0000 From: "Barry Clegg" Subject: fsj: Fuel Injection Ok - the group has probably discussed this to death, but I'm new. I have a carborated 1990 360 GW and am interested in hearing about your experiences with fuel injection conversions. Please understand - I am mechanically incompetent - I'll have to hire someone -so: 1. Is there a better or best system? 2. What is the cost if you have to hire someone to do it? 3. Advantages and disadvantages? 4. Is it worth it? I would appreciate your thoughts. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:20:54 -0600 From: "Kim Smith" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? > > << Yes, I'm naturally ornery. I don't let that fact keep me from doing what's > best, however. > > Ray Drouillard >> > > > My kinda guy - I love ornery people - Sooo much more interesting. "All the ornery people, where do they all come from? All the ornery people, where do they all belong?" ************************************************************************* Kim Smith 1980 Wagoneer "Joe", 360,2v,727,219 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:05:28 -0700 From: "Karl-at-Nookit.com" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? shhh. Big Brother will hear.... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Blair" To: "Ray (lists)" ; ; Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? > A: We learned how to act like cogs, while retaining the individual raw > material within! > > Ray wrote: > We're the ones who made it through "how to be a good cog in the machine" > training without becoming assimilated :-) > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? > > << Yes, I'm naturally ornery. I don't let that fact keep me from doing > what's best, however. > Ray Drouillard >> > > My kinda guy - I love ornery people - Sooo much more interesting. > Rob Harrison > 85 Grand Wagoneer > > ************************************* > JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 > http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html > ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:25:14 -0400 From: "Ray Drouillard" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: Do you wear your seatbelt? It has been my experience that "playing the game" is the best strategy. Why waste your energy being openly defiant and getting slapped when you can quietly do your own thing? There are a lot of teenagers out there who need to figure this one out :-) I am trying to hold out long enough to be an old eccentric rather than a young rebel :-) Ray Drouillard > A: We learned how to act like cogs, while retaining the individual raw > material within! > > Ray wrote: > We're the ones who made it through "how to be a good cog in the machine" > training without becoming assimilated :-) > Ray > > << Yes, I'm naturally ornery. I don't let that fact keep me from doing > what's best, however. > Ray Drouillard >> > > My kinda guy - I love ornery people - Sooo much more interesting. > Rob Harrison > 85 Grand Wagoneer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:27:51 -0400 From: "Ray Drouillard" Subject: fsj: Re: Fuel Injection If you want, I can send you a big .TXT file full of useful information from the conversion that I did on my '89 GW. Email me at RayDrou-at-quixnet.net Ray Drouillard - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Clegg" To: Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: fsj: Fuel Injection > Ok - the group has probably discussed this to death, but I'm new. I have a > carborated 1990 360 GW and am interested in hearing about your experiences > with fuel injection conversions. Please understand - I am mechanically > incompetent - I'll have to hire someone -so: > > 1. Is there a better or best system? > 2. What is the cost if you have to hire someone to do it? > 3. Advantages and disadvantages? > 4. Is it worth it? > > I would appreciate your thoughts. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:45:53 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: re: tailgate woes >From: Michael Baxter >Subject: fsj: Tailgate woes and discovery > >I had to venture inside the access cover on the Chero's tailgate today. Michael, I figured out to eliminate the tail gate woes... :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:44:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: re: tailgate woes A: Except where to find a new one for a J truck! John wrote: Michael, I figured out to eliminate the tail gate woes... :) john From: Michael Baxter I had to venture inside the access cover on the Chero's tailgate today. ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:48:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) Subject: fsj: TFI juice box kits for 6 cyls A: $120 direct buy, or bid on it at http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=476699420&r=0&t=0 You could use basically the same stuff, only for 8 cyl on 360s ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 4.6L stroker and 4 speed auto on LPG EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=476699420&r=0&t=0 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:59:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) Subject: fsj: ArcticBoy'sAMC Jeep Jamberoo ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 4.6L stroker and 4 speed auto on LPG EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** http://www.arcticboy.com/Pages/arcticboysjeep.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:56:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) Subject: fsj: Fwd: cable A: I'm passing this to the quadratrack guys. I know more about the '80 and newer New Process transfercases ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 4.6L stroker and 4 speed auto on LPG EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** Received: from smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.55) by storefull-252.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id EF5E314F; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: carnuck2-at-webtv.net Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF70216 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.com ([24.20.113.26]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001024160328.YPMR25860.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com-at-home.com> for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:03:28 -0700 Message-ID: <39F5B349.8F967DC5-at-home.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:05:29 -0700 From: John Hull Reply-To: amxerhull-at-home.com Organization: -at-home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net Subject: cable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jim. I was told you could answer a question on my Jeep PU. My low range is operated by a cable under the dash and it has broken. I talked to a guy who has the newer style on a Wagoneer which operates by a lever under the front seat. Is it feasible to use his set-up to replace my cable system? John Hull Lewiston, Idaho 69 AMX 70 AMX 73 Jeep PU 79 Spirit ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1080 **************************