From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon May 7 09:24:26 2001 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, May 5 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1308 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: FSJ Express Re: fsj: FSJ Express fsj: Blazer Re: fsj: My '89 GW with proposed new transmission fsj: Re: trans upgrade Re: fsj: Blazer Re: fsj: My '89 GW with proposed new transmission fsj: Re: Desperatetwolefthandedjeeplover is back ....... :-) Re: fsj: My '89 GW with proposed new transmission fsj: Re: Re: trans upgrade fsj: life with a rental... fsj: more ignition! fsj: 67 J3000 Bed rebuild.... fsj: first time rebuilding carb fsj: Gearing Calculator RE: fsj: FSJ Express fsj: fuel system cleaner fsj: Re: Re: trans upgrade Re: fsj: FSJ Express? fsj: the aftermath... parts galore! FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:41:28 -0500 From: "Landon Tesar" Subject: fsj: FSJ Express Ken, Corpus to Amarillo ? are you nuts ? That's gotta be an 11 hour drive ? That's gonna be a tired pony. Let me do the trek out west (or north to Dallas - meeting Brad from OKC, and I'll pass it to you in/around Austin. After I get a new ignition module. - - Landon 89 GW Austin, TX - ----------------------------------- Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 17:53:03 -0500 From: Ken Gaines Subject: fsj: RE: FSJ Express? I would be willing to help out if there is something that needs to go somewhere in Texas. I could go as far as...say...Amarillo or Lubbock to pick up pieces-parts and deliver them in this state. The little Jeep (bobtail affectionately named "Smokey") would be happy to haul stuff like axles or engines. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:47:18 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: FSJ Express "Landon Tesar" said: {- Corpus to Amarillo ? {- {- are you nuts ? {- {- That's gotta be an 11 hour drive ? That's gonna be a tired pony. Let {- me do the trek out west (or north to Dallas - meeting Brad from OKC, and {- I'll pass it to you in/around Austin. After I get a new ignition {- module. Just out of curiosity, is there actually a package needing to be transported for this "FSJ Express", or are we just pinging (in the network sense, not in the engine sense) in the dark? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Man has always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much -- the wheel, New York, wars and so on -- whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man -- for precisely the same reasons. -- Douglas Adams - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:03:56 EDT From: Grtdaneguy-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Blazer I have the opportunity to get my hands on a rebuilt 1979 blazer engine. It is a 350 with a holley intake and carb. Will it be compatible with my 81 wagon does anyone know??? Is it worth the effort or should I leave it alone? Joe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:13:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: My '89 GW with proposed new transmission A: Did they finally make a 4WD version? If not, AA doesn't adapt to that either! From: "Ray (lists)" If I remove the TF727 from my '89 GW and replace it with a Richmond Gear ROD 6-speed, I will get a better low end and higher freeway gearing. (snip) ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:14:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: Re: trans upgrade A: Lost the original title. You COULD go with a divorced NP205 (lousy low range though!) Several stroker list guys have been trying hard to find a 4x4 version of that 6 speed tranny ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:15:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Wall Subject: Re: fsj: Blazer If it won't fit an FSJ, but it's a really good deal, you could make a bitchin' riding mower! :-) - --- Grtdaneguy-at-aol.com wrote: > I have the opportunity to get my hands on a rebuilt 1979 blazer engine. It > is a 350 with a holley intake and carb. Will it be compatible with my 81 > wagon does anyone know??? Is it worth the effort or should I leave it alone? > Joe Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:16:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Wall Subject: Re: fsj: My '89 GW with proposed new transmission What's the difference when talking tranmissions? I thought transmissions didn't care what drive came after them? Alex - --- James Blair wrote: > A: Did they finally make a 4WD version? If not, AA doesn't adapt to that > either! > > From: "Ray (lists)" > > If I remove the TF727 from my '89 GW and replace it with a Richmond Gear > ROD 6-speed, I will get a better low end and higher freeway gearing. > (snip) > > ************************************* > JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche > http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 > ************************************** Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:48:40 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Desperatetwolefthandedjeeplover is back ....... :-) John Drop asked: it's ok to drive in emergency drive with the front driveshaft removed. john On Fri, 4 May 2001, John Drop wrote: >-->Okay okay !!! :-)) >--> >-->I made some progress..... >-->I have connected a vacuum directly to the transfer case, first I connected >-->it to the black / white hose, and after a test ride, the bonking was still >-->there. Then I connected the vacuum directly to the black / red hose on the >-->transfer case.... and guess what !!! No bonking sounds or other strange >-->noises anymore !!! :-)) >-->But now my car was driving in emergency, so I could here all the wheels >-->spinning and sqeeking when I accelerate... next thing I did, was to remove >-->the front axel, so I had only rear wheel drive..... No problemo anymore >-->:-)))))))))))) The car is driving perfecto mundo ! >--> >-->But if I drive it like this, will there be any problem with the transfer >-->case after a while ? >-->Or is this an good option to drive around with 2 wheel drive for the rest of >-->my life ?? ;-) >--> >-->Greetings the 'notwolefthandedjeeploveranymore', >--> >-->John >--> >-->----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- >-->Van: john >-->Aan: John Drop ; >-->Verzonden: donderdag 26 april 2001 20:00 >-->Onderwerp: Re: Desperatetwolefthandedjeeplover is back ....... :-) >--> >--> >-->> At 04:40 PM 4/26/01 -0500, John Drop >-->> "John Drop" >-->> wrote: >-->> >No, no one got back to me.... :-(( >-->> >-->> maybe because I didn't put your email address in the msg... ;) >-->> I haven't had time to read the digests... been way too busy. >-->> >-->> >Saturday I have rented a lift for my car, so we gonna take of the front >-->> >axels and put the other one underneat it.... I hope that wil have some >-->> >results, if not, I'm gonna put the old one back, and change the transfer >-->> >case... >-->> >-->> well, you could always fly me down to help... ;) >-->> >-->> >And John, ............ get some sleep ;-)) >-->> >-->> sleep? what's that? ;) >-->> >-->> >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux **** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://junkscience.com ** http://snopes.com ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA ...don't leave life without Jesus, please... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:59:32 -0400 From: "MadMarx" Subject: Re: fsj: My '89 GW with proposed new transmission They don't...Unless you have to attach the two together. You need to attach the transfercase to the tranny and AA doesn't make anything to connect a transfercase to the Richmond tranny. Mark - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Wall" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:16 PM Subject: Re: fsj: My '89 GW with proposed new transmission > What's the difference when talking tranmissions? I thought transmissions didn't care > what drive came after them? > > Alex > > --- James Blair wrote: > > A: Did they finally make a 4WD version? If not, AA doesn't adapt to that > > either! > > > > From: "Ray (lists)" > > > > If I remove the TF727 from my '89 GW and replace it with a Richmond Gear > > ROD 6-speed, I will get a better low end and higher freeway gearing. > > (snip) > > > > ************************************* > > JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche > > http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 > > ************************************** > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:12:06 -0400 From: "Ray (lists)" Subject: fsj: Re: Re: trans upgrade Does anyone know anything about the NP203 full-time case? Is it sturdy? What is the low range ratio? Ray - ----- Original Message ----- From: James Blair To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:14 PM Subject: fsj: Re: trans upgrade > A: Lost the original title. You COULD go with a divorced NP205 (lousy > low range though!) Several stroker list guys have been trying hard to > find a 4x4 version of that 6 speed tranny > > ************************************* > JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche > http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 > ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:44:28 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: life with a rental... inspector came out to look at the little wagoneer... no word on value yet. dealing with two insurance companies, mine and the other guy's. I think the other guy's insurance is going to be more to my liking. I have a rough idea of value on my Jeep, if the offer is close I'll work with them. If they're way out of line I'll be looking for a lawyer. We didn't create this mess and I'll not let us have to drive something less than what we had because of it either. I'm not looking for a lottery winning, I'm looking to have my wife treated and my very nice Jeep replaced... The other guy's insurance is providing a comparable SUV rental now. Which is a 2000 Blazer right now... Amazing how poorly it handles compared to my LIFTED '88 Jeep XJ... Driving the back roads home as I always do there is one very bad stretch, my Benz, my J10 and my little wagoneer took the worst of it with full control and composure, this Piece of Chevy felt like the tires had left the pavement and it was throwing me around like I was on a trampoline!!! Not all vehicles are created the same. I'm spoiled by driving Jeeps and Mercedes. :) By monday the rental outfit will be providing us a Jeep GRAND CHEROKEE!! :) Too bad we only get to drive it until the settlement is made... :( BTW, the wife is doing great, getting her to the chiropractor as quickly as we did helped immensely! Thanx all for the kind words. She's out there in my Benz. I'm hoping she'll decide she doesn't want to try the GC... ;) later, john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux **** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://junkscience.com ** http://snopes.com ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA ...don't leave life without Jesus, please... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:23:11 EDT From: FourXDave-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: more ignition! ah haaaaa!! i just re-read that ignition post he gets A spark when key goes from off to start, and then a spark and a sneeze out of the engine when shutting off!! bad box, usually, no trigger maybe... it helps to read EVERY word :) <>< DAB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:49:12 -0700 From: "Jay Smellow" Subject: fsj: 67 J3000 Bed rebuild.... After acquiring the J3000 from john, Ive been doing some body work to the bed sidepanels, and pan. In stripping off the paint, primer, and gunk, Ive found that the bed pan is not welded to the sidepanels, but.. instead laid in with a rubber gasket separating the two. As i unconvered things, I found the bed pan is extensively pitted, and may have been treated with a Rust converter, or some such prior to being repainted. while that has saved much of the pan there is still extensive rust damage. On the side panels... There is quite a bit of rust damage, with holes at all four corners. I'd like to rebuild them, but the gasket area is unreachable in most cases, and i'd have to Dissasemble the entire bed to get it done right.. My query is, simply.. Should i attempt to salvage the bed? or should i replace the entire bed assembly with a homemade flatbed setup. Both will cost about the same.. in the long run.. Jay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:46:36 -0500 From: bobandkara-at-juno.com Subject: fsj: first time rebuilding carb Hi Guys, Tomorrow I plan on rebuilding my first carb, a motorcraft 4300. Can anyone give me some pointers/tricks of the trade? Should I replace the float at the same time? Thanks Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 21:40:41 -0400 From: "Ray Drouillard" Subject: fsj: Gearing Calculator I updated the calculator earlier today. Unfortunately, I ended up with two copies on my website because of upper case/lower case differences (kronking eunuch computer stuff...). Anyhow, I ditched the old one and renamed the new one so that it works now. http://home.quixnet.net/~cosmic/GearCalc.htm Ray Drouillard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 23:02:56 -0600 From: "JC Jones" Subject: RE: fsj: FSJ Express I just thought it would be cool to put together, especially with shipping rates what they are. However, I do need to get a transfer case from Denver, CO. to Snohomish, WA. if anyone just happens to be heading that way... *============================================* * JC Jones * * 76 Wagoneer (Road Warrior) - Retired * * 84 Grand Wagoneer (Eeyore) * * 79 J10 (Max) - In Development * * 86 Cherokee Laredo (Junior) * * 79 NT Cherokee (parts) * * http://www.wagoneer.net * *============================================* > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net > [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Dan > Black > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:47 PM > To: Full Size Jeeps > Subject: Re: fsj: FSJ Express > > > "Landon Tesar" said: > {- Corpus to Amarillo ? > {- > {- are you nuts ? > {- > {- That's gotta be an 11 hour drive ? That's > gonna be a tired pony. Let > {- me do the trek out west (or north to Dallas - > meeting Brad from OKC, and > {- I'll pass it to you in/around Austin. After I > get a new ignition > {- module. > > Just out of curiosity, is there actually a > package needing to be > transported for this "FSJ Express", or are we > just pinging (in the > network sense, not in the engine sense) in the dark? > > -------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------- > Man has always assumed that he was more > intelligent than dolphins because > he had achieved so much -- the wheel, New York, > wars and so on -- whilst > all the dolphins had ever done was muck about > in the water having a good > time. But conversely, the dolphins had always > believed that they were far > more intelligent than man -- for precisely the > same reasons. > -- > Douglas Adams > -------------- Dan Black > ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 01:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) Subject: fsj: fuel system cleaner Several peple asked me about this stuff and where to get it, since it's not available in their area yet: CD2 CHEMICALS #41846 $9.99 4184-6 CD-2 MPG MAX FUEL ECONOMY (From http://www.partsamerica.com and YES I work for one of their partners) ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 4.6L, O/D auto on LPG, '86 Comanche with AMC 4 cyl, 5 speed http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 02:24:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: Re: Re: trans upgrade A: It's fairly strong (at least as strong or more than a NP208 from what I have been told) Low range is 2:1 approx (I have one for sale with Chev TH350 attached for $150, and it's in good working condition. I pulled my Dodge B350 wideone van, fully loaded with car parts no prob at all, and it had a cooler attached since installed 5 years ago. Ray wrote: Does anyone know anything about the NP203 full-time case? Is it sturdy? What is the low range ratio? Ray - ----- Original Message ----- From: James Blair To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:14 PM Subject: fsj: Re: trans upgrade A: Lost the original title. You COULD go with a divorced NP205 (lousy low range though!) Several stroker list guys have been trying hard to find a 4x4 version of that 6 speed tranny ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 11:34:55 EDT From: UrbFarmer-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: FSJ Express? I would be willing to participate on weekends to get things across Chicago or possibly across Illinois. Due to the cost of fuel though, it would have to be a reasonable and very noble (Jeep wise) request. - --Vince '81 Wag In a message dated 5/3/01 3:24:01 PM Central Daylight Time, dan-at-black.org writes: > "JC Jones" said: > {- I would be willing to fetch and deliver parts to the > {- following areas: > {- North - Westminister, CO. > {- South - Sedalia, CO. > {- West - Idaho Springs, CO. > {- East - Aurora, CO. > {- > {- What I was thinking is that for certain items, such as an > {- entire Jeep, or things of the like, maybe working out gas > {- compensation for long trips, heavy items, etc. > > Well, this wouldn't be a normal thing, but I will _hopefully_ be taking > my '88 (which will _hopefully_ have fuel injection by then!) to Colorado > the last half of July. So I _might_ be able to haul something (like an > engine) between central Iowa and central Colorado (taking I-80 through > Nebraska) -- I have a pickup-bed trailer. So if there's someone in > desperate need, let me know, and we can figure out details as I find out > more about the status of the fuel injection and the trip in general. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 10:07:13 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: the aftermath... parts galore! Ok, I'm sitting here with dozens of projects already... My wife is doing great, but the little wagoneer sits here with a small fortune in aftermarket parts... What do I do??? Do I swap stock parts back on and let them haul it away after I get a fair price? Do I buy it back and fix it so it's driveable and sell it? (I have the '67 Panel for hard core wheeling and no place to park all these extra vehicles... the wife is already asking when the '96 xj will leave... (she's very tolerant of my projects, I'm very blessed to have such a wonderful wife, but I also need to do everything I can to keep her happy, and happy is not having a bunch of vehicles sitting around... ;) Do I buy it back and part it and strip it and scrap it? Are there enough parts on this thing to make it worth my while??? Is anyone interested in the Dana30/35 with 4.10's, True Trac/Trac lock??? ( If so make me an offer and plan on swapping the axles from the '96 under the little wagoneer so it's rollable... I think the bill for the bearings, ring & pinion and TADs came to over $2k... Of course I don't expect that much and the d35 may be bent in the rear... I'll check it today. ) The OME lift has a damaged right rear spring... I think the rear springs alone are only about $150 for the pair, right? The shocks will find their way to SuperDawg, they are awesome... which means I may sell my Rancho 9000s from my J10. The things I need to complete my swap project I can take and replace with cores I have laying around. A/C compressor, fan, shroud, and that's about it... I talked to Mark about using the little wagoneer driveline in the Panel, he pointed out that the 232 in the Panel has less than 30,000 miles on it... good point... And, I've already got a better driveline for my J10 in the '96. That engine has lower miles and more power. The little wagoneer has a new timing chain and seals, but it does have 210,000 miles on it... the '96 only about 108,000.... The Aussie Bull Bar will stay here no matter what. Once it's determined we're not getting another XJ it'll be for sale. The IPF lights will find their way to my other vehicles. :) You know what gets me is that I had already mailed the check for the Euro lights for my 300SD... I could have taken the IPF lights and put them on my Benz... oh well... the euro lights will look so much better. Anybody up in the Seattle area drop on by. I'll be loading metal, old parts and what not in my trailer, those items are free for the taking. I'll set up a pallet of parts that will be for sale. Have Benz, XJ and FSJ parts. I'll be working on my shop all day today and hopefully tomorrow afternoon. Thanx again for all the kind words and thoughts. While I haven't met most of you in person, I still know you're friends. :) I'll be heading to the UNIX Security Conference the 23rd. Anyone in Honolulu or attending the SANS Conference? There is the very real threat of Chinese hacker attacks on our systems. Thankfully I only support UNIX systems and securing them is very manageable.... God help the poor soul that must secure a microsoft operating system... I wish you well my friends... I know some of you were forced to work on that stuff by management trying to save a nickel on hardware... time to talk to them about running Linux... We'll I'm gonna get off my soapbox and pick up my toolboxes... seems like they're scattered all over my yard right now... ;) I'm posting this via BCC to the diesel-benz list and the FSJ lists because I know that many of us own more than one kind of rig and I'm looking for ideas on what to do... A cross-carltural sanity check if you know what I mean... ;) Future parts dealing will probably be posted to the xj list exclusively... which reminds me, I have a spare Renix computer that will be for sale too... ;) john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1308 **************************