From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue May 15 08:37:16 2001 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, May 15 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1319 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1318 Re: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1318 fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1318 fsj: Re: FSJ info Re: fsj: spotted for sale ads Re: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1318 fsj: Seats?...interior doors? window guts? Re: fsj: Seats?...interior doors? window guts? fsj: Re: [FSJeeps] Seats?...interior doors? window guts? Re: fsj: spotted for sale ads fsj: there is hope!!! fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1318 fsj: ITS ALIVE fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 01:31:17 EDT From: DoctorNor-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1318 Hey...anyone have problems before with turn signals and flashers going crazy? My emergency flashers starts slow...and the quickly start flashing quicker. The turn signals just up and quit. All the fuses and bulbs are okay. Can anyone help on this? Tony 88 FSJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:28:18 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1318 DoctorNor-at-aol.com said: {- Hey...anyone have problems before with turn signals and flashers going crazy {- ? {- My emergency flashers starts slow...and the quickly start flashing quicker. {- The turn signals just up and quit. All the fuses and bulbs are okay. Can {- anyone help on this? Does it happen with a trailer (or other trailer-style lights) plugged in? That's usually just a sign that you need a heavy-duty flasher. They're only about $5 or less; should be able to get them at Wal-Mart or wherever. Just unplug the old one from the fuse box and plug in the new one. (The flasher unit's basically a capacitor, and if you put more load on it than it can handle, it starts doing the quick-flash thing. The first couple flashes may be more "normal" just because of the way physics works with electrical stuff -- it can build up enough punch the first time or two, but quickly falls behind.) And if you're not sure which one to get, unplug the old one when you go into the store and find one with the same connectors and electrical ratings. Ours are pretty standard; shouldn't be hard to find. And if you're not even sure which the flasher is, it's the metal cylindrical plug at the top of the fuse box, usually silver, about an inch (prob. a little more) in diameter and about an inch high. There are two such plugs at the top of the fuse box; I think the left is turn signals and the right is hazard blinkers. But you can unplug one and try turn signals and hazards to see which one stopped working. (Funny, though, I don't remember replacing the hazard unit, just the turn signal, and my trailer works fine -- anybody know what part I forgot?) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. -- Proverbs, 16:18 Don't get cocky. -- Han Solo, Star Wars 4 - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:25:40 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1318 >From: "Jeremy Van_Allen" >Subject: J series web site? > >Can anybody send me the address for the J series web site? There is one, but I can't seem to find the address. I'd start at the IFSJA web site and start following links. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:32:01 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: FSJ info >Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 21:30:44 -0700 >From: john (snip) >a July FSJ fest might not be a bad idea... Jonah Cole has one scheduled for July 14th in Liberty, WA. I don't have the details, but I've heard there will be corporate sponsors, trail rides, etc. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:20:51 -0500 From: Cyber Phoenix Subject: Re: fsj: spotted for sale ads Why does this stuff have to happen on the other side.. as soon as I moved? not fair! R.J. James Blair wrote: > '79 J-10 with new dual exhaust and other new stuff, good body and > running gear, only $1200 253-265-8167 Gig Harbour, WA > > '78 Honcho, 360 AT runs but needs tabs and work $850 425-353-6477 > Everett, WA (John M's backyard!) > > '76 Cherokee 401 seized, RV torque converter, rebuilt TH400 $750 obo > 425-869-8972 > > '67 Jeep pickup, 327 4 speed. not pretty $750 253-474-6092 Tacoma, WA > > '63 Willys p/u 327 $2000 obo 206-793-1126 > > '56 Willys p/u with Ford 289, 3 spd std, Warn O/D, PTO winch, SOA lift, > exc body $1800 obo 425-280-3577 Everett, WA > > parting '78 Cherokee Chief $20 to $300 253-891-8324 Sumner, WA > > '74 Cherokee glass, int, doors, gate with good glass & motor $20 & up > 425-432-4368 Maple Valley, WA > > Holley Pro-Jection 2 bbl new in box $550 253-735-9340 Pacific, WA > > 7.3L Powersmoke diesel from '91 Ferd $2000 (also has trans ) > 604-728-4864 (Abbotsford, BC, Canada maybe?) > > Amc 401 race engine, new steel crank, forged pistons, balanced 371 HP > ready to go! $2500 425-478-9805 Lynnwood, WA (I may have seen the crank > for this one being done last year at Perpetual Balance when I got my 4.6 > balanced) > > Dana 20 transfercase (from a FC150?) $150, 3 peed trans $300, > 360-652-9092 or 425-501-2281 Marysville, WA (N of John M) > > ************************************* > JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche > http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 > ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:25:07 -0500 From: Cyber Phoenix Subject: Re: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1318 Try a new heavy duty type, upgrade of a flasher fuses, you can get from a RV place, designed to to use a heavier load for trailers.. Then check your wiring, and connections for corrosion and or a bad grounding. Get a diagram of the wiring.. makes it tons easier! R.J. 80 J-10 Honcho DoctorNor-at-aol.com wrote: > Hey...anyone have problems before with turn signals and flashers going crazy? > My emergency flashers starts slow...and the quickly start flashing quicker. > The turn signals just up and quit. All the fuses and bulbs are okay. Can > anyone help on this? > > Tony > > 88 FSJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:02:42 -0500 From: Cyber Phoenix Subject: fsj: Seats?...interior doors? window guts? Does Best Top have a web site? I also need interior door stuff, like the Handle.. the plastic in the back where it uses those huge screws that goes to the door, is broken.. so they are just hanging.. What to use for back window tint? (It's solid piece.) I don't have a headliner, just some silver insulating mat glued to the top.. needs something to dress it up.. like a headliner.. Also,.. I am thinking about a sunroof or a moon roof.. Should I do it my self , or have someone else do it? I have those big Box portable speakers.. that I put behind the seats.. But they get muffled.. Do they make speakers that are that will hold really powerful watts that go in the back upper corners of the cab? (like ..400 watts.) I also need passenger door in side guts, since my window won't roll up because it falls off the arm.. that little track that holds it is rusted completely through.. I want to re do the inside completely, not necessarily stock.. but decent.. And I need a Glove box.. but with a light this time.. Does anybody know what those knobs to the air thing on the bottom of the hump, are for ? is it heater or AC? I just get warm air when I turn it on.. Should I get it the AC recharged? ( Don't really need it.. but it would be nice..) Does any body have any ideas? R.J. 80 J-10 Honcho Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 03:26:09 -0700 From: "TRobertsRN" Subject: Re: Re: fsj: new to the list, some questions... As to high back seats. I just put high backs in my 78 Cherokee WT. I got new ones from Best Top but any High back CJ seat from a junk yard will bolt right up as mine did. Because I only have two doors I went with a fully reclining set so passengers can get into the back easier. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Cyber Phoenix To: Jeff Ganyard Cc: fsj-at-digest.net ; FSJ-list-at-yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: [FSJ-List] Re: fsj: new to the list, some questions... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:20:57 EDT From: RKH911-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: Seats?...interior doors? window guts? > > I also need interior door stuff, like the Handle.. <> > > Also,.. I am thinking about a sunroof or a moon roof.. Should I do it my > self , or have someone else do it? <> > > I also need passenger door in side guts, since my window won't roll up > because it falls off the arm.. that little track that holds it is rusted > completely through.. <> > > And I need a Glove box.. but with a light this time.. <> > Does anybody know what those knobs to the air thing on the bottom of the > hump, are for ? is it heater or AC? <> > Should I get it the AC > recharged? ( Don't really need it.. but it would be nice..) <> Peace. Rob Harrison 85 Grand Wagoneer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:26:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: Re: [FSJeeps] Seats?...interior doors? window guts? A: I was looking into some lightweight seats for $100 or so each awhile back (made for CJs which should fit) but don't recall what mag I saw them in (JCW? JP? 4X4?) as the leather seats in Blackie are still good. The door closing handle on the inside is the same as AMC used for many cars, like Eagles and Concords. (I scored some nice ones with the chrome rings for Blackie, so I will have a pair of usable black ones soon) For rear window tint, have someone remove the glass (not a job for fumble fingers unless you pad the ground and everything around!) Put tint on the glass (available at most car parts stores as limo tint) and clean the frame, and put it back in. (Took me 2 hours, and I'm not a glass pro!) For headliner, have a shop put in a good quality sunroof, and then get the roof upholstered at the same time (they may know someone that does it) The DSPO of Blackie put in door speakers, so I will modify the holes to put in some real nice weatherproof 500 watters, and put the amp where it can keep cool! (A Python alarm goes in first though! In the meantime, an Ungo kit will help protect it) The track under the glass is shot? Get another from someone with a broken window, and glue it on your glass! (my driver's side one is really bad too) The knobs are AC. I could have used it here a couple days ago (too hot and humid for this old Canuck!) Ceck to see if it needs charging or not. From: cyberphoenix-at-qwestonline.com (Cyber Phoenix) Does Best Top have a web site? I also need interior door stuff, like the Handle.. the plastic in the back where it uses those huge screws that goes to the door, is broken.. so they are just hanging.. What to use for back window tint? (It's solid piece.) I don't have a headliner, just some silver insulating mat glued to the top.. needs something to dress it up.. like a headliner.. Also,.. I am thinking about a sunroof or a moon roof.. Should I do it my self , or have someone else do it? I have those big Box portable speakers.. that I put behind the seats.. But they get muffled.. Do they make speakers that are that will hold really powerful watts that go in the back upper corners of the cab? (like ..400 watts.) I also need passenger door in side guts, since my window won't roll up because it falls off the arm.. that little track that holds it is rusted completely through.. I want to re do the inside completely, not necessarily stock.. but decent.. And I need a Glove box.. but with a light this time.. Does anybody know what those knobs to the air thing on the bottom of the hump, are for ? is it heater or AC? I just get warm air when I turn it on.. Should I get it the AC recharged? ( Don't really need it.. but it would be nice..) Does any body have any ideas? R.J. ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:29:11 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: spotted for sale ads On Mon, 14 May 2001, Cyber Phoenix wrote: >-->Why does this stuff have to happen on the other side.. as soon as I moved? >-->not fair! don't worry, I'll buy it... ;) actually most of this stuff is probably pretty sad... ;) Hey, Jimmy B, start looking for a $6,000 '99 and up WJ Grand Cherokee for me... well, or any Cherokee for around $6k. just talked to the appraiser, I might be able to replace the little wagoneer after all. :) john >--> >-->R.J. >--> >-->James Blair wrote: >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux **** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://junkscience.com ** http://snopes.com ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA ...don't leave life without Jesus, please... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:37:48 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: there is hope!!! just got done talking to the auto appraiser... he's an old Jeep mechanic and knows his stuff... he's already run comps and just needs to look at the little wagoneer... he's in the $6k range. He's coming out tomorrow... Phew... I'm satisfied that he'll be fair. :) I've also got a guy in Oregon that is interested in my 300SD. btwn the insurance and the benz sale we should be able to replace the little wagoneer without going into debt. I'll be looking for a nice clean XJ for my wife... it has to be loaded. I wish we could afford a '99 and up WJ... but that'll have to wait a few years. Anyway, in talking to the appraiser he said if you have a nice rig that you can get it appraised and then get it insured for the set value. His appraisal is $150. He even knew what my '83 J10 Stepside and '67 J-100 Panel were... ;) I may be spending $300 later this year... soon as both engine swaps are done. :) btw, prayer does work... ;) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux **** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://junkscience.com ** http://snopes.com ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA ...don't leave life without Jesus, please... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:40:38 -0700 From: Mike Dillon Subject: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1318 Hi Bob, Like Scott said none of the parts are common between the two engines. It would not be a direct bolt in swap the 318 into the GW, but you would not need any adapters if you swapped in a Mopar 727 in place of the AMC pattern 727 that is in the GW now. (you may need the tail shaft and factory transfer case adapter that is in the GW) So figure on replacing the trans., (Mopar 727's cores are cheap and easy anywhere). That takes care of the drive train, transfer case (Stock GW), trans. ( Stock GW guts mopar case) and 318 engine. The fun part is that now you need custom, engine mounts, exhaust work to get your current pipes hooked up to the 318, radiator ???(you may be able to get the current one in the GW to work, does any one know off hand what side of the engine does the 318 want the inlets and outlets), wiring (get the factory charts for both the donor and the GW), Power steering (custom hoses ??), air conditioning (custom hoses ??), fan shroud ??, Hood clearance ??, oil pan to front axle clearance ??, front drive line to engine clearance ??, fuel pump ??. Don't start until you can answer all the "??" and probably a few more I have not thought of. Mike D. > Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 11:33:01 -0700 > From: "Phillips, Scott" > Subject: RE: fsj: can i swap dodge magnum 318 for amc 360/ or just the int akes? > > bobandkara-at-juno.com wrote: > >I have a dodge ram with a 318 magnum. Can I swap motors with my 86 gw? > >If not, could I swap the fuel injection system on the 318 for the 4 bbl > >intake on the 360? > > Sorry Bob the Dodge and AMC motors are completly different animals so you > can't just take the intake manifold off one and swap it to the other. > > AFA the engine swap it would be easier to swap in the whole drivetrain. > Otherwise you'll need adapters to the bellhousing OR if you swap the 318 w/ > bellhousing you'll need an adapter to the tranny from the BH. Not to > mention the input shaft will probably need to be swapped or modified. > Scott Phillips > '84 CJ-7 > '76 Wagoneer > > -*** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:18:50 -0500 From: Ken Gaines Subject: fsj: ITS ALIVE Gentlemen, I would like to share the joy of the soon-to-come new addition to my family of Jeeps. The FSJ-CJ hybridization is just about ready to roll. I found the last few "hard" parts I needed today here, of all places, in sunny Rockport, Texas. There is a guy here that used to be into CJ conversions/restorations. He is out of it and now he has a LOT of good parts that he is practically giving away. Here is a list of what I got for $50: 1. both frame mounts for a CJ with an AMC V8 2. hydraulic clutch master and slave cylinders 3. 200W power inverter 4. AMC 360 flywheel...practically new WITH ring gear 5. AMC I6 alternator mounting bracket 6. CJ doors made of diamond plate steel 7. 2" lift rear shackles (stainless steel, plasma cut, MIG welded) This is the same guy that I was telling you had the Nissan diesel with tranny and transfer case. He also has 3 or 4 decent Dana 300 transfer cases and a Ford T-19 transmission with another Dana 300 transfer case attached. He wants to get rid of all this stuff and would give it up at pretty reasonable prices. I think the transfer cases would be a steal for someone that wanted/needed them. The last piece of the puzzle is the clutch. Maybe you guys can help me with that. I am torn between a Ram Powergrip clutch and a Centerforce HD clutch. Which is best? I have used the Ram clutch setup before with GREAT results, but it is expensive. Any suggestions? Have a nice evening all. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 02:15:02 -0400 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 8/30/00; Demime added, new HTML rules as a result, new spammer block list on web to replace Special Note] Special Note The list of alleged spammers which previously appeared here has been replaced by the new URL http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. 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