From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu May 24 12:23:20 2001 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Thursday, May 24 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1327 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: Re: Safety Switch problem?? fsj: Calenders!!!! fsj: RE: What is his horrible screech coming from the passenger side valve cover area? Sounds like a belt squeel fsj: M715 Fenders fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1326 fsj: a pink jeep??? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:09:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Safety Switch problem?? A: It's on the driver's side rear of the trans. From: john At 10:02 PM 5/22/01 -0400, Rio wrote: Hello John! Excellent website you've designed! I'm hoping you can help me solve a problem with my 84 grand wagoneer. The other day I was driving and stopped to switch into 4wd and couldn't get the gears engaged, so still in gear I turned the key switch off to shut the engine.   I then push the gear lever and engage the 4wd.....But now the key won't start the jeep?? Works normal but acts like not completing the electrical circuit. What I ended up doing... I jumped the solenoid with key in on position and it starts normal. I then installed a new solenoid switch and still nothing. I'm looking for the park/neutral switch but can't find it. It's the only thing I can think of. Have you tried moving the gear shift to neutral and to Park? There is a rod that runs down the steering column, I think... sheesh, I'm trying to remember where it is too... I remember this rod running down the column... but I'm not sure if the switch is at the base of the column or what...look under the column... It's been a couple years since I wrestled with rebuilding the tilt... and had trouble with that rod... :) Does it only do it when you're in 4wd or all the time now? What do you think this is? neutral safety switch sounds like the problem... ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:40:43 -0500 From: Cyber Phoenix Subject: fsj: Calenders!!!! Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 01:33:09 EDT From: RMSquaredJeeps-at-aol.com Subject: '01 JEEP CALENDAR REPRINTS AND WAGONEER 1/25th SCALE MODEL (2nd NOTICE) I'm not sure if this message reached all the lists on Sunday, since I only received two responses, so I hope that nobody will be offended if I post it again. It concerns a second printing of the 2001 FSJ calendar and the possibility of a 1/25 scale FSJ model. Here's the post reprinted for those of you that might have missed it. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---- Quick update. Two weeks ago I attended the press launch for the new Jeep Liberty. If you'd like to view my impressions, they are currently posted on a UK Jeep club site at: http://www.jeepclub.co.uk/articles/liberty.html While I was there I gave the KJ's project manager my last two calendars to give to my PR contacts at Jeep. As I've mentioned earlier, his Dad held basically the same position at Kaiser in the late '50's and early '60's when the Wagoneer and Gladiator were developed and the calendar was dedicated to his Dad's memory. He showed the calendar to some of his peers in the engineering group and several expressed interest in getting a few calendars for themselves. Since several people on the various FSJ mailing lists expressed interest in buying calendars after the production run was completed, I have decided to produce a second print run. The calendars will be $26 each including shipping with additional calendars available for $24 each. Payment will be via PayPal only. I will not be accepting any checks this time around. If you're interested in purchasing a calendar, please let me know and process your payment NO LATER THAN JUNE 15. I anticipate doing the print run in the days following the cut off date with delivery via USPS Priority Mail by July 3. Now for the 1/25th scale Wagoneer project. As many of you know Revell-Monogram is releasing or has released a reissue of the Twister J-10 Honcho pickup truck in 1/25 scale. Information can be found at: http://www.revell-monogram.com/store/ModelDetail.cfm?Id=93&SubjectId=18&SkillI Several months ago, when this kit was announced, I put up some posts on some modeling boards and today, a model maker from Montana wrote me and we talked about the possibility of doing a resin body of a Wagoneer body. Resin bodies are a sort of cottage industry for hard-core modelers and it is a process where a limited run of bodies can be produced for vehicles for where there is not sufficient demand to tool up a full injection mold. We spoke at length over the phone and I'm going to send him one of the reissue models or my still-sealed Twister model and together we are going to talk about having him do up a mold for a resin body. Typically resin bodies sell for between $40 and $70 each in serious hobby stores. To complete one you'll need a donor vehicle for the chassis. Having a mold done is not cheap but it is not outlandishly expensive, it all depends how complex the final product will be. In essence two molds will be needed, one for the body and a second for the interior tub. My thought is that the body would have no grille but would have provisions for one of the five main grilles from the first Rhino to the last Grand Wagoneer. The five grilles would be part of the mold for the interior tub. This way you would be able to build up a completed model from any era and duplicate your own vehicle. At this time, we're thinking that if there was a production run of 100 bodies to amortize the cost of the mold, the cost per unit would be around $50 each. The question is figuring $50 for the resin kit, $12 for the Revell-Monogram donor kit, typical paint and the builder's time, just how big is the market for such a project among the members of the various Jeep mailing lists. Based on the success of the calendar at 150 units plus the second printing to come, is a production run of 100 units realistic? Actually it is 97 since I already know that I will be in for three units myself. I'd like to see this go forward but under one condition, it will not move forward unless there is a subscription of a minimum number of units at a specified price before I commission the mold. Every subscriber would have to put up a deposit of at least 50% of the final cost before work is started on the mold. I realize that this might be considered a leap of faith by some but I think I have a pretty good track record based on the calendar project and I'm willing to get the ball rolling. Look at it this way, for around $70 plus the time you invest to build up the model, you'll be able to build a faithful scale model of your own truck, less than the cost of a Franklin Mint model. I think that you could even commission a local modeler to build it up for you, just visit a good local hobby shop to find such an individual. The question is how much serious interest is there here for such a project and how many of you are willing to invest approximately $25 each to get the ball rolling? If you are interested, please E-mail me your thoughts along with the number of resin kits you would be willing to buy. If the number approaches the break-even point, then I will finalize the price based on the number of units specified and start taking deposits. When the commitment level is reached, I will commission the start of the mold and will post the notification to the mailing lists as well to each individual subscriber who has placed a deposit. Does this make sense? I suspect that this will take some time but if we start now, I am confident that the kits can be delivered by Thanksgiving so that they will arrive in time for Christmas giving. I look forward to hearing back from list members on both issues. When responding, please E-mail me directly at rmsquaredjeeps-at-aol.com. If you wish to order a calendar, please write in the subject line in upper case letters "I WANT IN ON THE CALENDAR" and let me know how many you will want in the body of the E-mail. If you wish to subscribe to the resin kit project, please write in the subject line in upper case letters "I WANT IN ON THE RESIN KIT" and let me know how many you will be willing to purchase. I look forward to hearing from many of you. Please feel free to pass this information along to other FSJ enthusiasts who might not be on these mailing lists. Sincerely, Richard Truesdell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:36:33 -0600 From: "JC Jones" Subject: fsj: RE: What is his horrible screech coming from the passenger side valve cover area? Sounds like a belt squeel Sure sounds like a belt. Just to make sure, get a can of belt dressing and spray it on the belts and see if the noise goes away. *============================================* * JC Jones * * 76 Wagoneer (Road Warrior) - Retired * * 84 Grand Wagoneer (Eeyore) * * 79 J10 (Max) - In Development * * 86 Cherokee Laredo (Junior) * * 79 NT Cherokee (parts) * * http://www.wagoneer.net * *============================================* > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net > [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of > bobandkara-at-juno.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:39 PM > To: fsj-at-digest.net; FSJ-list-at-yahoogroups.com > Subject: fsj: What is his horrible screech coming > from the passenger > side valve cover area? Sounds like a belt squeel > > > I have a horrible screeching noise coming from > the left valve cover area. > It sounds like a belt slipping, but isn't coming > fom the belts. It > varies with acceleration, and goes away once it's > warmed up or at a > higher rpm. > > Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:29:20 -0600 From: "JC Jones" Subject: fsj: M715 Fenders Does anybody have any M715 fenders laying around that they want to get rid of? *============================================* * JC Jones * * 76 Wagoneer (Road Warrior) - Retired * * 84 Grand Wagoneer (Eeyore) * * 79 J10 (Max) - In Development * * 86 Cherokee Laredo (Junior) * * 79 NT Cherokee (parts) * * http://www.wagoneer.net * *============================================* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:38:01 EDT From: Moontanman-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1326 In a message dated 5/23/01 2:30:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net writes: << Several months ago, when this kit was announced, I put up some posts on some modeling boards and today, a model maker from Montana wrote me and we talked about the possibility of doing a resin body of a Wagoneer body. Resin bodies are a sort of cottage industry for hard-core modelers and it is a process where a limited run of bodies can be produced for vehicles for where there is not sufficient demand to tool up a full injection mold. >> Does anyone make a full size replacement body for a FSJ? My current full sized jeep Cherokee wide trac is in great mechanical condition but the body is rusting away. I would love to have a new body especially one that wouldn't rust. Does anyone have any info on this? Moon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:19:09 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: a pink jeep??? when you say wagoneer, are we talking about the Full Size Jeep type with woodgrain, a body on frame, leaf springs front and rear type wagoneer, or the little downsized xj coils front, leafs rear with the 4.0L engine? If it's the big one with the V8, well, first off I'd like a picture of it either way, never seen a Mary Kaye Pink Jeep before. :) email a jpg if you are able. :) sorry, I digressed a bit, if ti's the big one it'll be safe, comfortable and a nightmare for your daughter to maintain. The V8's leak oil, vacuum and are thirstier than a camel that just crossed the saharah... If you're a mechanic or pretty handy you could keep it going ok. REplace teh plug wires with Jacobs wire, or put new ones on every year. I'd also replace all the vacuum lines once a year and tighen intake/exhaust bolts. I'd add an external trans cooler and switch the entire driveline over to synthetics. :) If it's the downsized model, it'll be pretty much trouble free, economical and easy to care for. They are also safe. My wife was just broadsided doing 50 mph by a Saab, it totalled the little wagoneer but she only got a mild case of whiplash... had the jeep not had 210,000 miles already I would have straightened the B pillar and replaced the rear spring and tire. :) I love the big Full Size Jeeps but the lack of economy and maintenace problems with the tailgate window made me go for the J10, and I'm putting an XJ motor in it. The best of both Jeep worlds. :) The XJ Cherokee/Wagoneer is probably the best all around Jeep every built. It does everything well. I think DaimlerChrysler is out of their ever-lovin' collective mind for dropping the XJ model line. I've had one of each (XJ and SJ) most of the time. I love driving my FSJs, but like not having to work on the XJ. :) The XJ in stock trim is a very respectable off-road vehicle. For heavy snows an FSJ is far, far superior to an XJ. With an FSJ I've unstuck a semi and a dumptruck... I've extracted a few large trucks with an XJ, but not as effortlessly as with an FSJ. sorry for rambling... I'm sitting in a hotel room in Honolulu, after a 7 hour delay in departure from seatac and a late, late night my wife is sleeping and a little bit sick with a cold... :( Soon as we get back to seattle next week we'll be shopping for another XJ for my wife, she absoluetly loves them. I'm waiting for my J10 to have the engine swapped out. A friend volunteered to do the swap and conversion for me in trade for a couple of my old Jeeps and a bunch of parts. He's a better mechanic than I am and know he's going to do a fantastic job... :) The FSJ world is an interesting one. I'm waiting for another friend to ship a transfer case out from Colorado... actually, we're waiting to see if my other friend's truck driver wife will be coming through colorado on a return run from the east coast. :) SJ or XJ, it's a Jeep and she'll love it. For your sake, I hope it's an XJ so you won't be fixing it all the time. Either way I wouldn't mind have a picture of a pink jeep... I just can't visualize it... :) john On Wed, 23 May 2001, allen blackford wrote: >--> >-->i have a wagoneer question - and your web page impressed me - and i don't know anyone with wagoneer experience. my daughter is about to turn 17 (problems enough!) and has located a wagoneer she wants. it belongs to a member of our church, he is an old er man who doesn't use it very much. he bought it from his sister a couple of years ago. i am not sure at this time of the year model, but he said it was one of the first to come with power accessories. it runs well. has not been wrecked. no major rust th at i have seen (but i have not really studied the car...). it has been repainted PINK. that's right - pink. mary kay pink. i like the car because it is (to me) a classic and has lots of sheet metal to protect my daughter in case of an accident. she likes it because it is a classic and is PINK. can you give me any information of what to look for, things to check out, beware of ect...... she is saving her money to purchase the car herself, i just want her to have a safe ride... any help you could give wo uld be great! thank you. >--> >-->allen blackford >--> >--> >--> >-->Yahoo! 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