From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Jun 16 10:08:11 2001 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, June 16 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1349 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: status... Re: fsj: Re: [1FSJ] alphabet Jeep report (DaimlerChrysler) fsj: Superdawg Steering fsj: Re: Superdawg Steering fsj: jeep photos (fwd) fsj: crash pictures fsj: Flyer.. fsj: parts needed? fsj: saturday adventures FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:37:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: status... A: I have the AC pieces! (from the '88 I'm parting) From: john - - - the '87 Cherokee is doing great, if it only had a/c... :) thanx all for the input on publishing s/w. john     ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:51:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re: [1FSJ] alphabet Jeep report (DaimlerChrysler) A: My front yard looks like a Jeep nest right now too! I have a '76 Wag, '84 J10, '86 MJ, and '88 XJ (plus all the leftover SJ and XJ parts stuffed here and there. I even found an AMC hood ornament!) From: "Ray (lists)" John wrote: >>The (KJ) ride and suspension are somewhere between a TJ and an XJ, in a nice way. Felt solid, tight and controllable. There are stout bars underneath for the IFS and tucked up nicely. There are even rollers under the rear axle parts so if you get up on something it'll let you roll over!!! Very cool.   A: Very cool indeed! It's similar to the rolloff tubes I put on the rear axle of my IH 4x4 about 16 years ago. J: >>I still like solid axles but I think I'd give this one a chance... looks like they set it up well, much better underneath than most Independent Suspension rigs... R: >Ever drive an M151? How about a Hummer? Both of those rigs are four-wheel IFS. IFS is great if it's designed right. Most "consumer" IFS rigs are designed for on-road ride with little or no thought given to the trail. A: I really like the feel and ride on/off road of the AMC Eagles, but they are only IFS. ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:32:14 -0400 From: mpolkkidodge-at-netscape.net Subject: fsj: Superdawg Steering John- I am glad you will use the 96 steering wheel in Superdawg. It will give the interior a more modern look. It would be nice if you could get the xj guages to work in it though. you might as well put a new odometer in it too since it will be "new" Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:36:40 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Superdawg Steering On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 mpolkkidodge-at-netscape.net wrote: >-->John- >-->I am glad you will use the 96 steering wheel in Superdawg. It will give the interior a more modern look. It would be nice if you could get the xj guages to work in it though. you might as well put a new odometer in it too since it will be "new" >-->Mike actually we're planning on using the entire XJ wiring and gauges. I don't really like the looks of the '96 xj wheel, nor the airbag... but I like the controls on the stalk and the cruise buttons on the wheel. ;) and the flash to pass feature... :) I plan on saving the original stuff just in case... :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux **** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://junkscience.com ** http://snopes.com ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA ...don't leave life without Jesus, please... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:35:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: jeep photos (fwd) this from a friend at work who is a paramedic... http://paramedic-ems.com/more.htm ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux **** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://junkscience.com ** http://snopes.com ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA ...don't leave life without Jesus, please... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tom.Peterson http://paramedic-ems.com/more.htm ________________________________ T om P eterson Sr. PCB Designer Intermec Technologies Corporation 6001 36th Avenue West Everett, WA 98203 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:12:24 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: crash pictures these are interesting links, don't know who was involved, but it appears that they weren't fatal and the ones below had less serious injuries... I've always been interested in the way vehicles handle collisions... these pictures are not morbid or gross... http://paramedic-ems.com/more.htm A paramedic friend sent me a link to this picture, probing around on the site found more... http://paramedic-ems.com/beforeafter.htm other pix: http://paramedic-ems.com/I-70pileup.jpg http://paramedic-ems.com/multi.jpg http://paramedic-ems.com/work.html john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux **** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://junkscience.com ** http://snopes.com ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA ...don't leave life without Jesus, please... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:12:55 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: fsj: Flyer.. remember the recruitment flyer in the works? Well I have some thing I can send to have you look at, and tell me what you all think? Send me an email , and I will send it.. R.J. 80 J-10 Honcho ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:30:08 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: parts needed? I've already uploaded the digests to my server and didn't get a chance to respond to the need for parts back east.... I've got fenders, grille, front rad support and other stuff... I'm giving my hood to a friend, but mailing a hood isn't very practical.... email me off list at john-at-wagoneers.com we might be able to work something out. If you have pictures of the damage it'll help me. I've chucked some of my parts, but some of them found their way down to a friend's place... john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:55:18 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: saturday adventures The worlds of Full Size Jeeps, XJ's, WJ's and Diesel Benz are intertwined together this morning.... Taking the WJ on it's "maiden" voyage with a trailer full of Full Size Jeep and XJ parts down to visit SuperDawg and Rambo. :) Hopefully that noise in the rear end won't mean a call to a friend with a flatbed trailer... :) It looks like next Saturday (23rd) is farewell day for my '83 300SD. :) That means I'll probably pull the for sale signs on the '87 Cherokee until SuperDawg is fully morphed into the XJ powered FSJ. Taking my son down with me today so he can see Rambo. Wife is coming too... I think she thinks she'll get to stop at antique shops... ;) My son and I are bringing CD's to listen to when, and if, she does... :) well, time to hitch up the wagon... :) john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1349 ************************** rom owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Jun 16 10:02:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from krusty-motorsports.com (IDENT:exim-at-krusty1.krusty-motorsports.com [192.94.170.8]) by virtual-cafe.com (8.9.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA20588 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:02:14 -0700 Received: from majordomo by krusty-motorsports.com with local (Exim 3.15 #4) id 15BJZ9-0007B1-00 for fsj-digest-outgoing-at-digest.net; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:08:55 -0400 From: owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net (fsj-digest) To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net Subject: fsj-digest V1 #1349 Reply-To: fsj-at-digest.net Sender: owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:08:55 -0400 fsj-digest Saturday, June 16 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1349 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: status... Re: fsj: Re: [1FSJ] alphabet Jeep report (DaimlerChrysler) fsj: Superdawg Steering fsj: Re: Superdawg Steering fsj: jeep photos (fwd) fsj: crash pictures fsj: Flyer.. fsj: parts needed? fsj: saturday adventures FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:37:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: status... A: I have the AC pieces! (from the '88 I'm parting) From: john - - - the '87 Cherokee is doing great, if it only had a/c... :) thanx all for the input on publishing s/w. john     ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:51:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re: [1FSJ] alphabet Jeep report (DaimlerChrysler) A: My front yard looks like a Jeep nest right now too! I have a '76 Wag, '84 J10, '86 MJ, and '88 XJ (plus all the leftover SJ and XJ parts stuffed here and there. I even found an AMC hood ornament!) From: "Ray (lists)" John wrote: >>The (KJ) ride and suspension are somewhere between a TJ and an XJ, in a nice way. Felt solid, tight and controllable. There are stout bars underneath for the IFS and tucked up nicely. There are even rollers under the rear axle parts so if you get up on something it'll let you roll over!!! Very cool.   A: Very cool indeed! It's similar to the rolloff tubes I put on the rear axle of my IH 4x4 about 16 years ago. J: >>I still like solid axles but I think I'd give this one a chance... looks like they set it up well, much better underneath than most Independent Suspension rigs... R: >Ever drive an M151? How about a Hummer? Both of those rigs are four-wheel IFS. IFS is great if it's designed right. Most "consumer" IFS rigs are designed for on-road ride with little or no thought given to the trail. A: I really like the feel and ride on/off road of the AMC Eagles, but they are only IFS. ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:32:14 -0400 From: mpolkkidodge-at-netscape.net Subject: fsj: Superdawg Steering John- I am glad you will use the 96 steering wheel in Superdawg. It will give the interior a more modern look. It would be nice if you could get the xj guages to work in it though. you might as well put a new odometer in it too since it will be "new" Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:36:40 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Superdawg Steering On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 mpolkkidodge-at-netscape.net wrote: >-->John- >-->I am glad you will use the 96 steering wheel in Superdawg. It will give the interior a more modern look. It would be nice if you could get the xj guages to work in it though. you might as well put a new odometer in it too since it will be "new" >-->Mike actually we're planning on using the entire XJ wiring and gauges. I don't really like the looks of the '96 xj wheel, nor the airbag... but I like the controls on the stalk and the cruise buttons on the wheel. ;) and the flash to pass feature... :) I plan on saving the original stuff just in case... :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux **** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://junkscience.com ** http://snopes.com ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA ...don't leave life without Jesus, please... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:35:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: jeep photos (fwd) this from a friend at work who is a paramedic... http://paramedic-ems.com/more.htm ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux **** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://junkscience.com ** http://snopes.com ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA ...don't leave life without Jesus, please... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tom.Peterson http://paramedic-ems.com/more.htm ________________________________ T om P eterson Sr. PCB Designer Intermec Technologies Corporation 6001 36th Avenue West Everett, WA 98203 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:12:24 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: crash pictures these are interesting links, don't know who was involved, but it appears that they weren't fatal and the ones below had less serious injuries... I've always been interested in the way vehicles handle collisions... these pictures are not morbid or gross... http://paramedic-ems.com/more.htm A paramedic friend sent me a link to this picture, probing around on the site found more... http://paramedic-ems.com/beforeafter.htm other pix: http://paramedic-ems.com/I-70pileup.jpg http://paramedic-ems.com/multi.jpg http://paramedic-ems.com/work.html john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux **** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://junkscience.com ** http://snopes.com ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA ...don't leave life without Jesus, please... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:12:55 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: fsj: Flyer.. remember the recruitment flyer in the works? Well I have some thing I can send to have you look at, and tell me what you all think? Send me an email , and I will send it.. R.J. 80 J-10 Honcho ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:30:08 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: parts needed? I've already uploaded the digests to my server and didn't get a chance to respond to the need for parts back east.... I've got fenders, grille, front rad support and other stuff... I'm giving my hood to a friend, but mailing a hood isn't very practical.... email me off list at john-at-wagoneers.com we might be able to work something out. If you have pictures of the damage it'll help me. I've chucked some of my parts, but some of them found their way down to a friend's place... john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:55:18 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: saturday adventures The worlds of Full Size Jeeps, XJ's, WJ's and Diesel Benz are intertwined together this morning.... Taking the WJ on it's "maiden" voyage with a trailer full of Full Size Jeep and XJ parts down to visit SuperDawg and Rambo. :) Hopefully that noise in the rear end won't mean a call to a friend with a flatbed trailer... :) It looks like next Saturday (23rd) is farewell day for my '83 300SD. :) That means I'll probably pull the for sale signs on the '87 Cherokee until SuperDawg is fully morphed into the XJ powered FSJ. Taking my son down with me today so he can see Rambo. Wife is coming too... I think she thinks she'll get to stop at antique shops... ;) My son and I are bringing CD's to listen to when, and if, she does... :) well, time to hitch up the wagon... :) john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1349 **************************