From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Aug 20 09:40:48 2001 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, August 20 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1431 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: go jeepbum go... fsj: campers and J10s? fsj: Re: campers... Re: fsj: Re: the T-5 in Superdawg Re: fsj: Re: the T-5 in Superdawg fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: had to laugh (at myself) fsj: Re: go jeepbum go... fsj: Need Cherokee parts fsj: RE: Need Cherokee parts fsj: RE: Need Cherokee parts fsj: Re: My Jeep FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:30:33 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: go jeepbum go... >From: Pat Hines >Subject: fsj: Chevy to Jeep torqueflite adapter >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=594142319 >Not my auction. no, but I know who the jeep bum is... ;) (i think... ;) john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:22:45 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: campers and J10s? Not sure why but this camper thing sounds good... not sure I'd use it all that much, but it would be a nice for trips to the coast... portable dining room... :) turns out there is one of these distributors in Reno, NV... anyone there seen one of these campers? :) http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/ http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/specs.html http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/shelll.html http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/Ranger.html http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/Hawk.html http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/pricepage.html J10 Stepside Bed Length 83" Width 48 1/2" Inside of bed Width 57 1/2" upper rail Depth 14" Inside of bed, front panel Depth 15-7/8" height of outer rail. later, john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:01:08 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: campers... At 07:46 PM 8/14/01 -0700, Allan Weidenheimer wrote: >Don't bid too much--damaged campers don't have much value. >And they are lots of work to fix. Trust me, I had to rebuild the front >wall (rotted) on mine. the one at the auction looks like it got run into something, will have to go down and look... >Also, check the NADA RV book, (yes, there is one) as the different >makes vary widely in how they hold their value as they age. Apparently, >some are built much better than others, so they hold value much better. they have 'em for just about everything... ;) >Like you say, take close measurements. Many have a bumpout on the >side toward the rear (goes behind the wheelwell in regular bed pickups). >Won't fit your stepside if they have that. >Later, >Allan W. Seeing your setup down at the NW Binder kind of got me thinking... It'd be nice to slide it in for a weekend jaunt to the coast or up in the mountains and slide it out for commuting... I'm not much of a camper but it would be nice to sit over at Ocean Shores and relax and watch the surf even if it's raining out... :) The idea of towing a trailer doesn't excite me much... We used a coleman popup tent trailer in Europe, back then it was nicer than staying in a pup tent. :) Towed it down to Interlaken Switzerland behind my '68 Mustang... camped right on the Thun See. (excuse me, Lake Thune) It was nice... The idea of camping in general leaves a bad taste in my mouth and feeling grungy... I'm spoiled... ;) You know I didn't even spend one night in an Army tent in 8 years!!! (of course we did travel across europe with a little orange pup tent... :) did you see the pix from the weekend? john >----- Original Message ----- >From: "john" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 7:02 PM >Subject: campers... > > got the measurements, will run down there and take a look... - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:17:04 -0500 From: JeepNut Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the T-5 in Superdawg Thanks Curtis, I browsed all the pics on John's website and from what I could see it looked like it was about 19". Appreciate the measurement. 13" vs. 19" is a big difference. Steve (JeepNut) - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- '87 Street Comanche #24/100 '88 Grand Wagoneer ...and they say there's only one... '92 Cherokee - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:20:05 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the T-5 in Superdawg At 11:17 PM 8/14/01 -0500, JeepNut wrote: >Thanks Curtis, >I browsed all the pics on John's website and from what I could see it looked >like it was about 19". Appreciate the measurement. 13" vs. 19" is a big >difference. Steve (JeepNut) what gets me is I was trying to figure out some interior stuff and didn't get a picture of my door panels... ;) 275 pictures and I didn't get the door panels... All I can say is that I'm really glad I didn't have to have those pictures developed down at Costco... I really love my digital camera. :) john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:15:00 -0400 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 8/9/01; backup address for list admin in section 8, TLS notes in section 1.l) Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. 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Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:22:57 -0400 From: "Toboggan Hill Farm" Subject: fsj: had to laugh (at myself) I was doing shop work yesterday. I changed oil in my wife's car. I checked brakes on a tractor (needs new). Then I was going to finally get around to fixing the tailgate window problem on my '83 Wagoneer (the electric window stopped working a while ago - Thanks again Joe for the schematic). It used to be my daily driver, but now I'm driving a Nissan in good weather (it gets triple the mileage of the Wagoneer.) As a result, the Wagoneer gets little use in the summer. Mostly it just sits in the barn waiting for winter. So when the tractor battery went bad (the tractor with the bad brakes) I stole the battery out of the Wagoneer, with the thought that I'd get a new one for it on my next trip to town . Knowing I had done this, I realized I couldn't start the Jeep and drive it to the shop, so I took my multi-tester, etc. over to the barn to work on it (yes, I know, it should have occurred to me at this point.) I hopped in the back (back seat has been out for years, so there is lots of room to work comfortably in the back. My feet, hanging out the door, were being nibbled by a pig (she is fenced out of that area, but months ago learned how to work the gate - She does no harm, and always puts herself back though, so I never bothered to try to secure the area any better.) It must have taken me nearly five minutes of zero-voltage readings on all tailgate wires, before it occurred to me that this is not really a job I can do without a battery in the vehicle. Does anyone else do stuff like this? :o) - -Brett ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 04:16:48 -0500 From: "TLynn" Subject: fsj: Re: go jeepbum go... You never know when you might need such a critter when you got a few FSJ's sitting around! Tim Lynn "ToolMan-JeepBum" "It's a Jeep Thing" Extreme SouthEast MO jeepbum77-at-hotmail.com tlynn-at-sheltonbbs.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 21:30 Subject: fsj: go jeepbum go... >From: Pat Hines >Subject: fsj: Chevy to Jeep torqueflite adapter >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=594142319 >Not my auction. no, but I know who the jeep bum is... ;) (i think... ;) john - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:51:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Daw Subject: fsj: Need Cherokee parts Does any one know where I might be able to find 79 Cherokeee parts? For example turn signal lights side marker lights, head light adjustment housing, and or any other part. Are ther any catalogs like Year One or the Paddock West? Thanks! Sean 79 Cherokee Cheif Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:09:58 -0400 From: George Milam Subject: fsj: RE: Need Cherokee parts Sean: The guys at Rancho Jeep Recyclers have just about every part imaginable and they are really reasonable. Here is the link to their web-site: http://www.ranchojeeprecyclers.com Good luck with the project! George Milam '89 Grand Wagoneer "Moose" Vermont - -----Original Message----- From: Sean Daw [mailto:grey_ghost_440-at-yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 12:51 PM To: fsj-at-digest.net Subject: fsj: Need Cherokee parts Does any one know where I might be able to find 79 Cherokeee parts? For example turn signal lights side marker lights, head light adjustment housing, and or any other part. Are ther any catalogs like Year One or the Paddock West? Thanks! Sean 79 Cherokee Cheif Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:36:32 -0600 From: "JC Jones" Subject: fsj: RE: Need Cherokee parts I have a 79 NT Cherokee that I am parting out. Let me know what parts you need and make me offers on them and I'll check to see what I have. Shipping from 80401 would be extra. ************************************ JC Jones 1979 Jeep J-10 "Max" 1984 Jeep Grand Wagoneer "Eeyore" 1986 Jeep XJ Cherokee "Junior" http://www.wagoneer.net ************************************ - -> -----Original Message----- - -> From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On - -> Behalf Of Sean Daw - -> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:51 AM - -> To: fsj-at-digest.net - -> Subject: fsj: Need Cherokee parts - -> - -> - -> Does any one know where I might be able to find 79 - -> Cherokeee parts? For example turn signal lights side - -> marker lights, head light adjustment housing, and or - -> any other part. Are ther any catalogs like Year One or - -> the Paddock West? Thanks! - -> - -> Sean - -> 79 Cherokee Cheif - -> Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with - -> Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - -> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 15:19:56 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: My Jeep greetings. a '67 Jeep Wagoneer. 327 V8? manual or AT? if it's all original and rust free it'll have some value, hard to say how much... it varies greatly. anywhere from $1000 to as much as $4000 US. Typical price here for older Wagoneers that run are from $400 to $2,500 or so. Typical $1,000 to $1,500. But they are all over the map on price. Without looking at it it's very hard to tell. The older (pre '74) Wagoneers had drum brakes and closed knuckle front axles making them less attractive and having a turning radius equivalent to a school bus. The 327 is a decent motor, I've had a couple. ttyl, john Sean , Nicholas Myburgh , At 04:46 PM 8/19/01 -0400, Sean wrote: >Nicholas.... I assume you got my e-mail from my Jeep website... as you >saw, I have a newer type Wagoneer... the little Wagoneer Limited that is >just like the Cherokee. I have little to no experience with full-sized >Jeeps so I'm sorry, I can't help you myself..... BUT I am forwarding thie >e-mail to John of Wagoneers.com Maybe he can shed a little more light for >you... from what I've seen, he's THE man on full sized Jeeps like your >'67. Thanks for the compliment on mine :) > >John... hope you don't mind... I got the below e-mail and figured you're >the best guy to possibly help Nicholas. His e-mail should be in the >header if it's not visible below. > > Sean B. > Schenectady, NY > > >Nicholas Myburgh wrote: > >>Hi Sean, >> >>I own a 1967 Jeep Wagoneer (a Kaiser with Rambler engine?) in very good >>all-round condition. It's about 90% original, very superficial changes >>i.e only front seats and side-mirrors have been changed. Mechanically >>sound. Virtually no rust. Colour is off-white and interior light-blue. Do >>you have any idea what it might be worth - roughly? >> >>Many thanks >>Nicholas Myburgh >>Swellendam >>South Africa >> >>PS: I wish I had a Wagoneer like yours - she's beautifull!! - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1431 **************************