From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Aug 28 10:37:17 2001 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, August 28 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1437 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: Stalling some more fsj: RE: Stalling some more fsj: calls from the other side... fsj: tune-up specs for points ('74) fsj: Re: tune-up specs for points ('74) fsj: Re: full size jeep parts fsj: tune-up specs for points ('74) fsj: tranny needed for '67 J3000 327 FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 21:32:57 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: Stalling some more At 08:27 AM 8/26/01 -0700, allyoop wrote: >Funny thing is it only stalls at or decelerating to idle -- runs fine on the >highway and under acceleration. Idle solenoid? Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 18:59:34 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: RE: Stalling some more At 06:51 PM 8/26/01 -0700, allyoop wrote: >Yep, adjusted float level. I think there's no fuel return line (Motorcraft >4300 4v) >Walt then it's either the fuel lines or the fuel pump... john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 19:40:59 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: calls from the other side... a sunny sunday afternoon, I'm on picket fence repair duty and the phone rings... it's the guy with the 68 Mustang... we chat, and then call waiting sounds off... pick it up and it's the Admiral calling from way on the other side of the mountains to encourage the acquistion of another XJ. :) Thanx for the jingle, sorry I didn't have more time to chat... but made good progress on the fence... 2 bags of concrete shy of getting it all done... well, the post part, next comes the rails then the pickets, then we're done. :) Sold the '87 XJ to one of my son's friends. It'll take him a few weeks to come up with the money. Didn't get as much as I wanted, but basically covered the major costs I had into it. Wife hates it because it clunks and has 269,000 miles on it... :) and the seat is worn out... :) Runs strong and gets 17mpg though.... SuperDawg won't be ready for a while, so we'll be down to one car... could be interesting... or maybe I'll have to buy something else... :) I saw a '79 Wagoneer in Everett for a grand... :) The wife wants another XJ, but a new one... not sure if it makes sense to sell the WJ and get an XJ when the payment will be the same... the XJs are nice, but not as nice as this WJ. :) flip/flop, flip/flop. :) Will be heading down to Portland either Tuesday or Wednesday to pickup some springs from Whit. Any one interested in any of the parts I have up here, can meet you somewhere on I-5. :) john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:25:23 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: fsj: tune-up specs for points ('74) Anybody have a '74 manual handy who could tell me any tune-up specs for a '74 points system? Like dwell and gap, and anything else that would be useful (including hints from experience). I've never messed with them before, but the friend who's helping me with them says he has the right tools and is familiar with them (he has them on his pickup). Also if anybody has any other ideas, I'd be happy to listen: the '74 started bogging down last Friday and then wouldn't start in the evening. Turns, sounds like it _wants_ to fire, but doesn't. A couple times it would even _almost_ start, but die after a few chugs. We tried spraying WD-40 inside the distributor cap and even pouring gas straight into the carb. No difference. (That probably rules out a plugged fuel filter (about three weeks old) and water in the tank (got gas the day before, on Thursday).) Anyway, it did act similar to an ignition module going out, but as I said, it's points. Once we get it running, we're probably going to switch it -- supposedly not that expensive or hard to do. The friend says we'll replace the cap, rotor, condensor, and points. But still looking for the specs. :) Thanks! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. -- Robert A. Heinlein - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:57:44 -0500 From: "Vince Orr" Subject: fsj: Re: tune-up specs for points ('74) Dan: I used to play a lot with old points and condenser ignition systems. One quick way to tell if the points are burnt is to pop the cap and if they aren't already open, gently hold them open with a screwdriver (don't pry on the contacts). You should be able to see if the contacts are flat or if they have pitted or burned. I've even been so cheap as to file and dress a set of points rather than buy new ones........... Condensors rarely fail as fast as points or plugs but most folks replace them for good measure. If your condensor hasn't been replaced in quite a while, it should be. And of course the cap and rotor should be in good shape. Make sure the surface of the distributor shaft where the rotor makes contact is not rusty, etc.. so that good contact is made with the rotor. If all else fails, check for a ground strap between the contact plate and the inside wall of the distributor. I'm not sure if that is what your motor uses but there should be some kind of ground strap or wire. It may look fine but be old and bad. And always check the wiring to the distributor. If someone finds a '74 manual, there are probably tests you can run with the ignition on to check circuits. Continuity checks could be done on the wiring as well. Otherwise, you could try to convert to electronic. Waa Hoo! :) - --Vince - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Black" To: "Full Size Jeeps" Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:25 AM Subject: fsj: tune-up specs for points ('74) > Anybody have a '74 manual handy who could tell me any tune-up specs for > a '74 points system? Like dwell and gap, and anything else that would > be useful (including hints from experience). I've never messed with > them before, but the friend who's helping me with them says he has the > right tools and is familiar with them (he has them on his pickup). > > Also if anybody has any other ideas, I'd be happy to listen: the '74 > started bogging down last Friday and then wouldn't start in the evening. > Turns, sounds like it _wants_ to fire, but doesn't. A couple times it > would even _almost_ start, but die after a few chugs. We tried spraying > WD-40 inside the distributor cap and even pouring gas straight into the > carb. No difference. (That probably rules out a plugged fuel filter > (about three weeks old) and water in the tank (got gas the day before, > on Thursday).) Anyway, it did act similar to an ignition module going > out, but as I said, it's points. Once we get it running, we're probably > going to switch it -- supposedly not that expensive or hard to do. > > The friend says we'll replace the cap, rotor, condensor, and points. > But still looking for the specs. :) > > Thanks! > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > Women and cats will do as they please, > and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. > > -- Robert A. Heinlein > -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: full size jeep parts On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Panhead wrote: >-->hello im looking for ring and pinion gears plus carrier spyders locking pin for a 1976 jeep j10 with dana 44 rears. if you can help me out it would be great looking forward to hearing back from you soon thanks Panhead I'll share this with the FSj list. but olympic 4x4 in snohomish, randy's ring & pinion or Reider Racing will all have what you need. john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux ** (plain text please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:45:15 +0000 From: Gary Clark Subject: fsj: tune-up specs for points ('74) Anybody have a '74 manual handy who could tell me any tune-up specs for a '74 points system? Like dwell and gap, and anything else that would be useful (including hints from experience). I've never messed with them before, but the friend who's helping me with them says he has the right tools and is familiar with them (he has them on his pickup). Dwell is 32 degrees, point gap is .016, spark plug gap is .035, type 12-N-Y, Timing is 5 before, idle speed is 700 rpm's in gear if it a 360. Dwell changes to 30 if 401. Get the points close to the gap before the rotor and cap are installed, then dial the dwell in with the engine running. Check the coil output too. Gary 73 Wag I changed last year to a Pertronics, points to electronic ignition, conversion and am very pleased with the results. $58 direct from Pertronics. It has never ran better. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:49:10 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: tranny needed for '67 J3000 327 the guy that acquired my son's '67 J3000, Jay, needs a transmission for it. I believe it's a T-85, it might also be a T-15. Not 100% certain, but either way, it sounds like 1st gear is gone and it's leaking oil.... not a good situation. If you have a trans of any type that will bolt up to the 327 and the Dana 20 xfr case and you're in the Seattle area or can get it shipped to him for, oh, less than $200, he'd like to talk to you. :) Actually the TH400 will work, and might be preferred if you have the flex plate and torque converter as well for the 327... You can email me and I'll forward it to him. I think his email address is changing or has changed. He'll email me tomorrow. Things were going pretty well... he's gotten the bed rust fixed and was doing great... then his job went away and then his tranny... :( Mark may get his wish to get it back... :( He was kicking himself for letting it go... Anyway, if we can help Jay get this thing back on the road cheap it'll be great. Jay could use some good news right about now. later, john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1437 **************************