From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Dec 10 20:11:39 2001 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, December 10 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1518 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: the 88 GW fsj: RE: [cfsja] 69 J3000 - Update (very long) fsj: FSJ Richard Dreyfuss fsj: FW: FSJ in movies (Richard Dreyfuss) Here's another fsj: Re: Interchanging NP tcaes was: large crack in transfercase! fsj: Liberty Recalled FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 16:14:46 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: the 88 GW wow, this thing is beautiful... $4k looks to be a bargain... mark, it's still on Whidbey Island in Washington, right? john contact Mark Wilde http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/88GW/DSC00001.jpg http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/88GW/ - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 23:21:15 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: RE: [cfsja] 69 J3000 - Update (very long) an e-ticket ride... too bad it didn't work out... :) almost sounds like driving that '73 Jeepster with no wipers, a very loose steering box (almost a full turn) and brakes that immediately make you turn left quickly... all the way from eastern Washington, over the pass in a snow storm and through the Seattle area to home... :) that was exciting... and cold... I was happy to see rain, despite having no wipers. :) john At 12:06 AM 12/10/01 -0700, JC Jones wrote: >Ok, I went up today to get the J-3000. I found out that it got parked >where it was in 1994, surprisingly all the tires were still aired up. >It has 3 spares in the bed, all of which are different sizes on >different style wheels. Keep in mind that the only time I saw this >truck before today was for about 10 minutes to check out the condition >of the M-715 bed. I popped the hood to find a GM V-8 (no idea what >displacement, or what make). The air filter is missing and it has a >tiny 1bbl carburetor on it. The entire engine compartment was covered >in about 1/4" of dirt (including the open carburetor). It still had >oil, but that's about the only fluid left. The Radiator was empty, the >TH400 was not registering any fluid on the dipstick, 5 of the 6 battery >cells were bone dry, and the gas tank was nearly empty if not completely >empty. The interior also had about 1/4" of dirt on everything, and the >key could not be found. > >Anyway, given that the owner said the engine was on it's last leg when >he drove it to it's resting spot in 94 I decided to just get it running >and see if it could make it to Golden on it's own power. I pulled the >wires from the back of the ignition switch and hotwired the ignition >(yes, I was touching wires together to fire the starter). Filled the >battery with water, hooked up the jumper cables, put 2.5 gallons of gas >in the gas tank, filled the radiator with water, sprayed a generous >amount of carb cleaner in the carburetor and cranked her over. After a >few rotations she started sputtering and died. Ahhh, the wonderful >smell of rancid gasoline. After lots of carb cleaner, starting fluid, >and raw gas down the carburetor she finally fired up and idled. The >exhaust ends at the back of the cab with a huge muffler (which by the >way did not muffle much). After letting it idle long enough to be able >to press the accelerator without killing the engine (accelerator pump is >shot) I put her in 4 low, transmission in low gear and......... Nothing! >After 1 gallon of transmission fluid 1st gear would engage and I got it >up off the hill that had been it's peaceful resting place for the last 7 >years (it was sitting on a hill at about a 25 degree roll angle to the >passenger side, and about a 10 degree pitch angle to the rear). >Unfortunately, the transmission barely works and the brakes are even >worse. It was about 2 miles to my friends house, and about 1 mile into >the trip (a maximum speed of 30 was obtained at one point) something >towards the rear of the truck started chunking and grinding. Every time >I step on the brakes it wants to make a left turn, there is about 40 >degrees of free-play in the steering wheel, every bump causes clunks and >groans from the front end, etc. Needless to say, the truck is still in >Black Hawk and will be towed to my house sometime this next week. The >GM engine however (to be identified at a later date) appears to be >strong and in good shape, so I am assuming that somebody here may want >that eventually. > >By the time I got this truck running and moving under it's own power I >was beginning to feel like I was on Junkyard Wars. Now, you may be >asking yourself "Why would JC want such a basket case?". The answer my >friends is that this truck has a 100% rust free and nearly dent free >M-715 bed (although it is pink currently), and a Gladiator grill in very >good condition. The last time I checked a rust free M-715 bed was not >only nearly impossible to find, but also a small fortune if one could be >found. And, those of you that know me, I am sure know that I did not >pay very much for it. > >So, there will soon be a 69 J-3000 stripping party where the parts will >be free in exchange for some able bodied help in removing the M-715 bed >and placing it on blocks so I can prep it to be put on Max. > >If you made it this far, you must be patient indeed. > >JC Jones http://www.wagoneer.net >1979 Jeep J-10 "Max" 1984 Grand Wagoneer "Eeyore" >1978 MB 300D "Fritz" 1986 Jeep XJ Cherokee "Junior" - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:46:33 -0500 From: George Milam Subject: fsj: FSJ Richard Dreyfuss "What About Bob?" has a great yellow Wagoneer that Richard Dreyfuss drove. George Milam '89 Grand Wagoneer "Moose" Vermont George Milam Culinary Steward The Equinox Resort Manchester Village Vermont 802/362.7817 <> [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of George Milam (E-mail).vcf] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:10:17 -0500 From: George Milam Subject: fsj: FW: FSJ in movies (Richard Dreyfuss) Here's another The lady in Baby Boom that moves to Dorset Vermont (same town I live in :) moves up here in a Grand Wag. > -----Original Message----- > From: George Milam > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:47 AM > To: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: FSJ Richard Dreyfuss > > "What About Bob?" has a great yellow Wagoneer that Richard Dreyfuss drove. > > George Milam > '89 Grand Wagoneer "Moose" > Vermont > > > George Milam > Culinary Steward > > The Equinox Resort > Manchester Village Vermont > 802/362.7817 > <> [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of George Milam (E-mail).vcf] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:52:24 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Interchanging NP tcaes was: large crack in transfercase! Jim, I've got that hunk of metal for an adapter to solve the problem. Curtis has a design ready... I paid $65 for the metal, it's yours for what I paid for it. The machining shouldn't be hard to do, I could get you in my machine shop if you didn't have any other options. I've decided to go with the NP242 so I can use my hubs... I like the idea of having 2wd as an option... kind of like a swiss army knife I guess... ;) I'll have to do the SYE kit, almost $300 for that... :( john On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, James Blair wrote: >-->A: Is there a different depth input gear for my NP208? I thought my >-->adapter was the simplest solution, but if I have to rewind my case >-->anyway? >--> >--> From: "Zack Heisey" >--> >-->The problem you ran into is that not only do you have to get the spline >-->count right, but you also have to get the input gear length correct. Its >-->not too hard to change input gears. There have been three kinds (not >-->counting the old, straight cut variety): Short, Medium, Long, and Extra >-->Long. You probably had a long input gear where a short was supposed to >-->go. Change the input gear and its solved. >-->Zack Heisey >-->Z&M Jeep Parts and Literature >-->http://home.supernet.com/~zmjeeps >-->zmjeeps-at-twcny.rr.com >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->From: >--> >-->A: Ordinarily I wouldn't dispute Zack (since he works where the >-->transfercases were made! ) John M and I went to bolt a NP208 (which >-->come behind the 23 spline output 727) to a late model ('91 or newer with >-->23 spline) AW4 (which the NV242 come with) >--> It wouldn't quite fit (3/4 to 1" gap) but it may not >-->be an issue the other way around. >--> If you just want to get moving again, the transfercase >-->out of an AMC Eagle will fit, but it has no low range. >--> >-->From: "Heisey, Zachary" >-->If you are in the market, don't rule out the NV242 that comes in grand >-->Cherokees and Cherokee classic. It will bolt up to your transmission, >-->but you will have to change your driveshafts. If you get one out of a V8 >-->equipped grand Cherokee, it will be the heavy duty version, and there >-->are fixed rear output kits available for it. Just an idea. Zack Heisey >--> >-->************************************* >-->JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche >-->http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ >-->http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 >-->************************************** >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux ** (plain text please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:06:41 -0600 From: "Vince Orr" Subject: fsj: Liberty Recalled DaimlerChrysler Recalls Jeep Liberty sport utility vehicles Reason: Could delay the deployment of its driver's side air bag. 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