From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Jan 14 10:31:48 2002 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, January 13 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1544 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Diesel john rides again? massive vehicle switchero... :) fsj: the backyard, the '77 Cherokee fsj: Re: Rear window help needed fsj: RE: GM Diesels fsj: Re: diesel question fsj: RE: RE: GM Diesels fsj: for sale - '67 J3000 / '67 Fairlane Club Coupe fsj: the fairlane... (OT) fsj: RE: for sale - '67 J3000 / '67 Fairlane Club Coupe fsj: the '77 Cherokee... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:38:51 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: Diesel john rides again? massive vehicle switchero... :) bottom line: Mark is selling his '67 J3000 ($500) http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/marks-67-J3000/ and http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/CARS/1967-Fairlane/ '67 Ford Fairlane ($2,500) John is selling Mark his '77 Cherokee John is buying an '83 Ford Ranger XL Diesel... (john-at-wagoneers.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUESTION: what engine is in the '83 Ranger??? who makes it? http://wagoneers.com/tmp/DieselFord - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The guy that bought my '81 300D has an '83 Ford Ranger XL with a 2.2L Diesel and a 4 speed. He brought it over today and I test drove it. It rides nicer and is quieter than the '77 Cherokee I have been driving. My cherokee got 8 mpg on the last tank... I'm tuning it now, but realistically it'll do 13mpg in town... So I'm going to buy the Diesel Ford and sell my son the '77 Cherokee. The Cherokee is a nice rig, but I still miss SuperDawg. :) SuperDawg should get 15 to 16 mpg in town with the '96 XJ driveline (4.0L). The Ranger should get 22 or so in town, which will be fine. It's not a bad little rig... It'll save us a lot of money if fuel expense. :) Only has 111,000 miles or so on it. Quieter than the cherokee, goes down the road straight, shifts ok... rides decent... Anyway, I'm trying to figure out what engine this thing has and am basically putting out an all points for info. :) The guy has had it for years and it runs and sounds fine. It looks like a well setup Diesel engine. I like the fact it has dual batteries and good fuel filters. :) The pictures are at: http://wagoneers.com/tmp/DieselFord My son has to sell his '67 Ford Fairlane Club Coupe ASAP so he can buy my '77 Cherokee so I can buy the '83 Ranger... :) Pix of the Fairlane at: (will take new ones tomorrow for ebay) http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/CARS/1967-Fairlane/ http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/CARS/1967-Fairlane/67-fairlane-1.jpg I think we're going to put it up on ebay opening it at around $2,200, we'd like $2,500 for it right now. low miles on a new 289/C4, edelbrock 289 manifold, Holley 600 cfm, flowmaster, electronic ignition, straight body, some minor rust... runs great, handles well... email before tomorrow if you're interested in the Fairlane. I can't see any reason why you couldn't drive it across the country tomorrow morning. We're open to offers before we get it on ebay... It's a nice car, you won't find one this nice on the other side of the country for this price. :) Mark is also selling his '67 J3000 - he just said $500. I think it's worth at least twice that... http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/marks-67-J3000/ http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/father-son-00mar8-2.jpg The motor is solid, the body fair, (the door was replaced and has black primer on it now) and there is a problem with the transmission, but it's driveable... He thinks it could be driven to California... He's driven it to work several times without problems and I was driving it around here with the flood cleanup... It will need a transmission... IT has 30x9.5's on it right now... - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 20:01:53 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: the backyard, the '77 Cherokee snapped this on the way to work Friday morning http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/Fotos-2002/cherokee-mtns-dec11-2002.jpg backyard before I left friday morning... http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/Fotos-2002/backyardview-dec11-2002-1.jpg - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 23:44:02 EST From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: Rear window help needed In a message dated 1/12/02 1:42:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net writes: >I've already tried the hair drier and that doesn't work. Is there some >solvent or chemical or some trick to getting this junk off? If it was mine I'd lay it down flat and try different solvents until I found one that worked. Saturate a rag or paper towel with the solvent and let it sit on the film and soak in. Highly volatile solvents like brake cleaner or lacquer thinner might need a couple of applications. Scraping with a plastic scraper might give you peace of mind. Be aware that if you find a solvent that works it might also damage the glue that holds the defroster parts to the glass. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:12:33 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: RE: GM Diesels At 10:06 PM 1/12/02 -0700, JC Jones wrote: >I thought I would try to find a wrecked truck or >suburban with the 6.5 so I could get the glow circuit too. My plan was >to have my AMC TH400 re-cased with a Chevy case so I can still use the I'd use the 700r4 or equivalent so you get overdrive >QT. Is there anything special you know of I need to do with the fuel >system (tank, lines, etc.)? need a return line, otherwise should be ok. >I finally got my M-715 bed, and I have a line on a set of M-715 front >fenders. Those huge flares on the M-715 body parts combined with the 4" >suspension lift and 3" body lift the J-10 has already are going to make >my 36" tires look really small. Since 38" tires fit on a stock >M-715, it will probably take 42" or 44" tires to fill up the wheel wells >on mine. ur outta control... looks like I'll be driving a mini-Diesel until SuperDawg is done, mark will get my cherokee... he's selling both his fairlane and J3000... john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 23:35:56 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: diesel question At 12:35 AM 1/13/02 -0500, Clubsb-at-aol.com wrote: >A while back I read an article in I think jeep magazine or one of the 4wd >magazines about a jeep CJ7 with a MB diesel engine at time i was not into >diesels but now that I am that sounds of a sweet idea. Have you sen this? I remember about it, but haven't seen it. I think the 3.0L benz Diesel would be a suitable engine. I've got pictures of a Full Size Jeep in Europe with a 240D motor fitted with a Volvo turbo on my server. john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:16:28 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: RE: RE: GM Diesels At 01:17 PM 1/13/02 -0700, JC Jones wrote: >I just have a thing for the QT. I've owned and driven more vehicles >with more different types of transfer cases than I can count, and by far >the BW1339 is my favorite. > >I mean really, a transfer case that gives you the control of full time, >the ability to lock up (also allows you to cripple home on only the >front or rear axle if need be), gives you full time low range (not >forced into lockup in low), a 2.57:1 low range, a bigger stronger chain >than nearly any other chain driven case, and the ability to handle 400+ >HP and loads of torque. Not to mention the differentials in line so you >have a clear path on the drivers side to clear large obstacles without >worrying about slamming the rear differential. > >I would love to figure out how to adapt the QT to a divorced case. That that would be cool... >would allow the use of any transmission you want because all you need is >a 2wd transmission. Then a 700R4, MB Auto, any manual, etc. could be >used (as long as it was adapted to the engine). That would also give >great options for a second transfer case ahead of the QT for additional >gear reduction. If I could figure that out, I would use a Ford 7.3 >Powerstroke Diesel with the factory 4 speed auto and transfer case, that >way I could use the front output of the Ford transfer case as a PTO as >well as having an extra low range (torque multiplier). > >I had a little Mitsubishi 4x4 Diesel once. It think that's the same >engine you have in your Ford. It was a great little truck (although a >bit underpowered for 33" tires). this one has the Mazda 2.2 L as far as has been determined so far... the Turbo versions got the Mitsubishi motor... >JC :) - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:28:57 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: for sale - '67 J3000 / '67 Fairlane Club Coupe (sorry for the off-topic post... (somewhat). son needs to sell his '67's so he can buy my '77 Cherokee so I can buy the '83 Ranger Diesel... :) These vehicles are in Snohomish, Washington, just north of Seattle. The J3000 might make it to California, but you'll be doing about 55 mph top with the gearing, think it has 4.10s. The transmission has a problem, but my son has been driving it without trouble... either way, will need a new/rebuild tranny. $500 - drive it away... '67 J3000, 327/t85/d20/d44s/30x9.5 solid V8, electronic ignition, uses NO oil. http://wagoneers.com/ebay/1967-J3000-Jeep/j3000.jpg http://wagoneers.com/ebay/1967-J3000-Jeep/ $2,500 obo - drive it across the country - preparing to put this on ebay... '67 Fairlane Club Coupe, 289/C4 (40,000 miles on rebuilds) edlebrock performer 289 / Holley 600 cfm, electronic ignition, flowmaster, ps, straight... needs paint, some rust in trunk, under battery, floorpans repaired, but wasn't too bad. http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/CARS/1967-Fairlane/ http://www.wagoneers.com/ebay/1967-Fairlane/ later, john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 18:11:45 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: the fairlane... (OT) put the fairlane on ebay... drove up to Bellingham and came back, over 136 hits already! :) Found another Tonka FSJ camper at an antique shop... :) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600456914 later, john ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:12:23 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: RE: for sale - '67 J3000 / '67 Fairlane Club Coupe At 07:11 PM 1/13/02 -0700, JC Jones wrote: >How's the rust situation on the J-3000? There are a few folks out here >that would love to get their hands on that truck. not too bad, the front fenders and hood is perfect, the doors are solid. we fixed the floorboards, roof is fine the last guy fixed the bed... should I put it on ebay? :) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600456914 john >JC :) > >-> -----Original Message----- >-> From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net >-> [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john >-> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:29 PM >-> To: Recipient list suppressed >-> Subject: for sale - '67 J3000 / '67 Fairlane Club Coupe >-> >-> >-> (sorry for the off-topic post... (somewhat). >-> son needs to sell his '67's so he can buy my '77 Cherokee so >-> I can buy the '83 Ranger Diesel... :) >-> >-> These vehicles are in Snohomish, Washington, just north of >-> Seattle. The J3000 might make it to California, but you'll >-> be doing about 55 mph top with the gearing, think it has >-> 4.10s. The transmission has a problem, but my son has been >-> driving it without trouble... either way, will need a >-> new/rebuild tranny. >-> >-> $500 - drive it away... '67 J3000, 327/t85/d20/d44s/30x9.5 >-> solid V8, electronic ignition, uses NO oil. >-> http://wagoneers.com/ebay/1967-J3000--> Jeep/j3000.jpg >-> >http://wagoneers.com/ebay/1967-J3000-Jeep/ > > >$2,500 obo - drive it across the country - preparing to put this on >ebay... > '67 Fairlane Club Coupe, 289/C4 (40,000 miles on rebuilds) > edlebrock performer 289 / Holley 600 cfm, electronic ignition, > flowmaster, ps, straight... needs paint, some rust in trunk, > under battery, floorpans repaired, but wasn't too bad. >http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/CARS/1967-Fairlane/ >http://www.wagoneers.com/ebay/1967-Fairlane/ > >later, >john >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >--------------- > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-------------------- - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:23:09 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: the '77 Cherokee... took this picture Friday morning... :) it's wallpaper on my pc now... :) http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/Fotos-2002/cherokee-mtns-dec11-2002.jpg It still needs a steering box/work, door locks, better seats, some rear window work and really that's about it. Runs nice, oh, yeah, the transmission is pretty sloppy, takes a lot of skill to get it in the right gates. Mark wants to put 33x12.5's on it. I need to get down to Curtis's and get some of the parts out of the back of Rambo... :) I guess I'll wait until I have the '83 Ranger Diesel so it doesn't cost me a paycheck to drive the Chero the 200 miles... :) Looking forward to driving the cute little Diesel. It's a lot nicer, and quieter ride than the Cherokee... doesn't go as fast or sit as high... but I'll get over it. :) My son and I worked on the Chero together yesterday... really screwed up the spark plug wire arrangement... we had flames coming out the tailpipe, then out the carb... :) then I found the error on my webpage about the firing order, fixed it and the firing order and took it up for a test drive. http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Engines/V8-firing-order.html FWIW, the '67 Fairlane is getting hit pretty hard on ebay right now... over 250 hits! I'll be putting the J3000 up in a few minutes, the URL for the fairlane is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600456914 later, john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1544 **************************