From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Jan 14 23:06:40 2002 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, January 15 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1545 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Ranger Diesels fsj: the J3000 is now on ebay (OT) Re: fsj: Diesel john rides again? Re: fsj: RE: GM Diesels Re: fsj: the '77 Cherokee... fsj: [Fwd: [FSJeeps] 1988 JEEP GRAND WAGONEER] Re: fsj: Re: Re: J10 and fuel lines [none] fsj: RE: fsj: Portland, OR area FSJ-er fsj: Fw: RE: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:02:09 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremiah Westpfahl Subject: fsj: Ranger Diesels Yeah, it's the Mazda diesel. As I remember the 83Ranger had the Mazda, 84 didn't get a diesel & then 85-86/87 had the Mitsubishi TD. My personal preference would be for the Mitsubishi. We had a D-50 w/ one & it was a little powerhouse & got a steady 30mpg everywhere...Should have done a little better on fuel, but the 5th gear in the Dodge was about useless. We've got a parts Mitsubishi diesel & bellhousing from a Ford Ranger, seriously thought about rebuilding it & putting it in a little Cherokee since the engine is so light. Parts are hard to find here, especially the right pistons, but are fairly common in Australia since Mitsubishi is pretty popular there. Also had a guy call over the weekend who came up with a diesel Ranger & want to sell it to us. Also know of an engine/machine shop w/ 3-4 Ranger diesels sitting. Weird how so small a production vehichle can pop up in so many places. :) Miah Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:45:50 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: the J3000 is now on ebay (OT) just put my son's '67 J3000 on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600495257 his '67 Fairlane: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600456914 :) john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:59:30 -0800 (PST) From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Diesel john rides again? From: john massive vehicle switchero... :) bottom line: Mark is selling his '67 J3000 ($500) http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/marks-67-J3000/ (snip) A: I talked to my wife about this (she's planning on getting rid of the '99 Ranger 4x4 while it's worth more than she owes for it) She wants an up close check out. John is buying an '83 Ford Ranger XL Diesel... (john-at-wagoneers.com) - - - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----------------- QUESTION: what engine is in the '83 Ranger??? who makes it? http://wagoneers.com/tmp/DieselFord (snip) A: It's a Mitsubishi (possibly turbo) that is known for cracking heads if overheated. (So don't overheat it!) Dodge D50s also ran them (I sold the block from the one I had in a D50 to a guy with a Ranger that lost a con rod due to lack of oil. Stupid oil change shop left the plug loose!) ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:19:59 -0800 (PST) From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) Subject: Re: fsj: RE: GM Diesels A: With the Diesel you would want the 4L80, aka TH400 with O/D ( not 4L80E! Too much computer junk, and definitely NOT the weak 700R4! PS: It's aka 4L60E or TH350 with O/D) with the output adapter to hook up the QT to it. From: john I'd use the 700r4 or equivalent so you get overdrive At 10:06 PM 1/12/02 -0700, JC Jones wrote: I thought I would try to find a wrecked truck or suburban with the 6.5 so I could get the glow circuit too. My plan was to have my AMC TH400 re-cased with a Chevy case so I can still use the QT. Is there anything special you know of I need to do with the fuel system (tank, lines, etc.)? John wrote: need a return line, otherwise should be ok. A: The AMCs already have a return line. You just need to change the lines to diesel capable neoprene where they flex. ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:34:46 -0800 (PST) From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) Subject: Re: fsj: the '77 Cherokee... From: john took this picture Friday morning... :) it's wallpaper on my pc now... :) http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/Fotos-2002/cherokee-mtns-dec11-2002.jpg (snip) A: EWWWWW!!!! Howzabout warning a person when you put up a g-rated (for gross green) pic like that! (My allergy to green hasn't let up, but I had an accident Sat AM on the off-ramp in Bellingham. A bimbo swerved from the far left inside lane on I-5, across 5 lanes and the painted traffic island then rode her brakes all the way down the ramp, slowing traffic to <10mph with a 5 car gap between her and the car ahead, then she dead stopped 2 car lengths from the intersection on a green light! I was amazed the car I gently bumped was grey/blue, and then the driver and her 8 months pregnant 16yo daughter jumped out with GREEN hair! My son and I worked on the Chero together yesterday... really screwed up the spark plug wire arrangement... we had flames coming out the tailpipe, then out the carb... :) then I found the error on my webpage about the firing order, fixed it and the firing order and took it up for a test drive. A: Didn't I point that error out to you a year or so ago? ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:01:22 -0600 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: fsj: [Fwd: [FSJeeps] 1988 JEEP GRAND WAGONEER] have any ideas? can you write them? I would say.. but I am not really sure.. Thanks.. R.J. 80 J-10 Honcho Huntsville AL - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [FSJeeps] 1988 JEEP GRAND WAGONEER Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 03:18:11 +0000 (GMT+00:00) From: guest-at-smartgroups.com Reply-To: guest-at-smartgroups.com To: FSJeeps-owner-at-smartgroups.com I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE TOWING CAPACITY OF 88 WAGONEER...WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE THAT NEEDS GASKET WORK BUT IS IN GREAT SHAPE INSIDE AND OUT..WE HAVE A '72 AIRSTREAM THAT WEIGHS 5500LBS EMPTY AND 8000LBS WITH WATER TANKS AND PROPANE...WHAT A COOL COMBO IF IT CAN WORK...ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT.....THANKS...HIKINGMOM-at-CAROLINA.RR.COM If you want to share pictures, use the calendar, or start a questionnaire visit http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/fsjeeps To leave the group, email: fsjeeps-unsubscribe-at-smartgroups.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:02:07 -0800 (PST) From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: J10 and fuel lines A: I answered this before I left for BC Sat AM, but didn't see it show up. I still have an '84 GW plastic tank with the filler hoses and a good sender. They changed the fill neck vapor return to a larger size, and altered the angle the gas nozzle pokes into -at-'78/'79. The '76 my friend had was a pig to fill in a hurry! I had to find just the right angle or it would keep shutting the pump off. The vapor line to the charcoal cannister was also added, which helped lower backpressure in the tank. Remember that the more alcohol or MTBE content, the more easily the fuel vaporizes while filling, and creates the back pressure. From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com In a message dated 1/10/02 9:57:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net writes: On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Rod Allen wrote: Rod Allen (snip) I have a 82 J 10 honcho (stepside)that needs fuel filler hoses bad! I wanted to know if the hoses were still around and if they are, would you or whoevers bed it was be interested in selling them? I cannot find any anywhere. They are not easy to find or to replace with something else. Your help would be greatly appreciated. From: john (snip) Your best bet is to go to a muffler shop and have them bend up exhaust pipe to the shapes you need, and then go to napa and buy a section of gas line to couple it together. It's very expensive stuff, around $7 a foot. This fall I rebuilt the filler system for my dual tanks (for the second time). This time I used 1.75" copper pipe and fittings to build the curved sections and most of the rest. So far, I've worked with PVC, steel, and copper to build fuel fillers. They each have different benefits and drawbacks. Here's how I rate them. Steel - will rust, inexpensive, hard to work with. PVC - won't rust, inexpensive, easy to work with, kinda bulky. Copper - kinda expensive, not too hard to work with, fits well in tight spaces. Around here Napa only carries 2" fuel line and it's $9/ft. Industrial hose suppliers carry all sizes and cost almost half as much. I'd forgotten how much of a pain early FSJs were to fuel up, either that or my '77 Cherokee has something wrong with the vents. The stock filler configuration on my '71 filled like a dream. I remember a friend's '77 Wagoneer that filled very slowly. He was a nitpicker on maintenance so I'm pretty sure that's just the way the factory built it. However, junkyard research indicates minimal differences in filler and venting design between Kaiser and AMC era FSJs. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10, '86 Comanche http://www.geocities.com/eaglemania2002/ http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998 ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:19:00 -0800 From: "allyoop" Subject: [none] guys, I need some help with how the dipstick is set up on a 360. My dipstick tube is broken and I have a replacement. But where does the tube appear at the top by the engine? I assume between the center and rear exhaust ports between the exhaust manifold and the block -- right? And which way does the tube curve -- I'm assuming it curves out from the bottom and then back toward the head. Again, is that correct? Thanks for the help. Walt Greenwood ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:44:15 -0800 From: "Paul and Megan Kershner" Subject: fsj: RE: Yes to both your questions. There is also a bracket that bolts to one of the valve cover bolts that keeps the tube from moving around. pk - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of allyoop Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:19 PM To: Jeep Digest Subject: guys, I need some help with how the dipstick is set up on a 360. My dipstick tube is broken and I have a replacement. But where does the tube appear at the top by the engine? I assume between the center and rear exhaust ports between the exhaust manifold and the block -- right? And which way does the tube curve -- I'm assuming it curves out from the bottom and then back toward the head. Again, is that correct? Thanks for the help. Walt Greenwood ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:48:31 EST From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Portland, OR area FSJ-er I found this '69 Wag for sale in the Portland area. I'm hoping there is someone who'd be willing to check it out in person and report back. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=600296167&r=0&t=0 Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:56:37 -0800 From: "Brian Turner" Subject: fsj: Fw: RE: When I replaced my tube on the 304, my dipstick did not line up right. There is a splash plate in the oil pan. It has an oval opening that the dipstick goes though to the bottom of the pan. The new tube should be pre set and just tap in. I replaced mine from an old motor, so it was bent a little getting it out. If the dipstick does not go in all the way don't panic. Set the tube in place then put in the dipstick and make sure it goes in and out. then tap the little lip on the tube. I used a very long skinny screwdriver and do not use force. It only goes in a little ways, and is a metal to metal press fit. Good Luck Brian - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul and Megan Kershner" To: "'allyoop'" ; "'Jeep Digest'" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:44 PM Subject: fsj: RE: > Yes to both your questions. There is also a bracket that bolts to one > of the valve cover bolts that keeps the tube from moving around. > > pk > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of > allyoop > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:19 PM > To: Jeep Digest > Subject: > > guys, > > I need some help with how the dipstick is set up on a 360. My dipstick > tube > is broken and I have a replacement. > > But where does the tube appear at the top by the engine? I assume > between > the center and rear exhaust ports between the exhaust manifold and the > block -- right? > > And which way does the tube curve -- I'm assuming it curves out from the > bottom and then back toward the head. Again, is that correct? > > Thanks for the help. > > Walt Greenwood ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 02:15:00 -0500 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 11/13/01; extensive revisions to 1.j, 1.k -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? [this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, the following phrases in subject lines are automatically blocked: Important Message From growth stocks free calling card direct e-mail secrets Merchant Account Mass Marketing make money fast Pediatric advice Email ? Million People what "they" don't want are you being investigated the actual list is quite a bit longer; i think you get the idea. h) are you using "funky" character sets? [7 bit restriction lifted experimentally on 8/2/00 -- film at 11] unfortunately, there are "issues" if i permit any character set other than old fashioned 7 level ASCII; therefore, you need to avoid national character sets that include various accents, umlauts, national currency characters such as the British pound symbol, etc. i) are you unintentionally including complete digests in your reply? You need to check and make sure you cut down replys to the minimal size; digests are between 20,000 and 25,000 characters in length, and if you include a complete digest in your reply, it clearly won't make the 10,000 character limit. By the way, this feature is intentional. j) Are you using a "bad" ISP or mail relay? See http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html for more information about Digest.Net policies about email. k) Is the error message you get back "User Unknown"? If so, you may be running afoul of spam control severices (again, see http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html) When these services register a hit, the error code 550 is returned. 550 is a generic code that many broken mail systems report as "user unknown". The "rejectlog" entries for the previous day's mail traffic on digest.net may be viewed at http://www.digest.net/rejectlog.01 Some of you may find it useful or instructive to use the telnet program to connect directly to port 25 on krusty-motorsports.com and see what kind of reply you get; this requires some technical knowledge and is not for everyone (you can get out of this at anytime after the initial banner simply by typing quit and hitting enter.) l) Is SMTP over TLS involved? This is a bit esoteric, but as of 8/8/01 the digest.net mail server will attempt to use "TLS" (Transport Layer Security) for outbound mail if the destination mail server offers it. SMTP over TLS is fairly new technology, and a bit buggy. I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1545 **************************