From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Oct 5 22:00:40 2002 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, October 6 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1762 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: T-5s fsj: "Merging" two FSJs. fsj: Re: help me please Wagoneer issues galore FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 21:34:27 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: T-5s no problem... the ratios on the T-5 were excellent... I liked it... but even with a sick 258 I could feel the limits... and knowing that the previous owner spent about three grand fixing it I wasn't too impressed. :) It would have been nice if it had a granny gear AND the over drive... of course the NV4500 does all that and is a sturdier model... But since I prefer an AT the Aisin Warner 30-80LE is perfect for my setup. :) would I buy another J10 or cherokee with a T-5? sure... :) john At 04:25 PM 10/4/2002 -0400, M Biz wrote: >Thanks for the input! I saw a J-10 advertised once with a 5-speed, but >didn't know about them or how they held up....Guess I'll stick with my >T-176.... > >Thanks again!!! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "john" >To: >Cc: >Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:44 PM >Subject: Re: T-5s > > > > At 08:31 AM 10/4/2002 +0000, FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 02:54:41 -0000 > > > From: "Mike" > > >Subject: T-5 behind a V8? > > >Does anyone have a T-5 or any 5-speed behind a V8 in a FSJ? If so how > > >does it do? I want to put 4.56's on a j-series, w/35x12.50's...anyone > > >have any input??? > > >Thanks > > >Mike > > >1983 J-10 Sportside V8 > > > > Mike, Superdawg had a T-5 behind a 258. The previous owner spent > > over $3,000 fixing it... possibly with a World Class T-5 out of > > a Mustang... not sure, don't care, I'm replacing it with an Aisin > > Warner/4sp auto behind a 4.0L. > > > > I will say that even if it were the world class it was on the > > verge of breaking... I could feel it straining when towing a > > trailer up I-5. Had I pushed it a bit more it felt like it would > > break... shift didn't feel right... > > > > If you can get a World Class built to the hilt, maybe... but with > > that big of tire size and so on... you're asking for failure. > > > > john > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 09:53:33 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Thompson" Subject: fsj: "Merging" two FSJs. As I posted earlier, I picked up my first FSJ, an 83 Cherokee 4 door 4 speed stripped down model with bench seats and manual everything but steering and brakes. I now own the 87 Grand Wagoneer with the blown motor I posted about earlier. It has the standard power everything package. It is in generally very good cosmetic shape inside and out with the exception of some small surface rust spots (mostly driver's door) and a dinged up corner of the grill and dinged up original fog light. The driver's window is down and I assume does not go up. Air con and working condition of other power features currently unknown. Do not know about the suspension, etc. Cannot drive it to test and just looks like one would expect of that age car. It was owned by a lady's father and was treated I believe as a typical Ketchum Cadillac with occasional hunting trips. The 83 Cherokee is running just fine and has a re-built motor and new clutch 24K ago. Its shocks were replaced recently, all the pumps and etc. associated with the motor were replaced and seems mechanically excellent with the exception of a leak from one of the Power Steering Fluid pump and a little tickle from the throw out bearing in neutral with the clutch out and a little shimmy or chatter when you let out the clutch in first, especially first thing in the morning. I have to fix the rear tailgate window crank. Air con needs to be switched to 134A and seals replaced to work. Has been tested to make that determination. Radiator was upgraded and is in good shape. Exhaust system is relatively new with stainless steel taking the place of the pollution features, work done by PO who is a machinist at Titanium Sports in Kenniwick. Now my question, I was planning on adding the seats from the 87 GW, carpet kit, stereo maybe, some of the side panels that already have the speaker grills and the wheels. I might also move over the near perfect nicer headliner. The one in the Cherokee is cardboard only, does not sag, but has a couple holes poked in it from hauling stuff or something. Then I had the thought of moving either the entire manual drive train over to the 87 or just the motor with the new pumps. Can this be done? Can I hook up the 4 speed to the 87 with the different transfer case? I would have to get help from a local shop as I do not have the equipment to move v8 motors around. Of course holes would have to be cut to bring the levers through into the cab. More hassle than it is worth? I would want to stick a new battery in the 87 and test all the power stuff. I frankly prefer the manual stuff, but the rig seems pretty nice otherwise. Thanks for your thoughts and have a good weekend! Steve Hailey, Idaho - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 21:48:34 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: help me please Wagoneer issues galore At 12:04 PM 10/5/2002 -0700,"damon flail" wrote: >John- > >Just happened to stumble across your name several times on these jeep >sites , so thought I'd try to solicite some free advice from you since you >seem to be the guru of Jeeps. I'll give you a bit, but getting on the FSJ list will help you more. :) see details in sig file. >I'll try yo be breif. I have recently aquired a 1973 and a 1976 >Wagoneer. The 73 I was able to drive home, but it needs lovin that I am >not able to give, for lack of knowledge. I am mechanically inclined to an >extent, but when it comes to gear and compression ratio talk, I get >lost. I basically know engine fundamentals. you'll need to deal with a lot of other minor issues... I'd almost suggest using the '73 for parts to get the '76 running, the '76 will have disc brakes, electronic ignition and six lug rims... however, the '73 may be worth fixing up as a restoration project... all depends on the condition. >My most pressing issue(now don't laugh) is the electrical mayhem this >thing is creating. The guy I bought it from passed on before he finished >this project, but he was changing over from a points distributor to an >electronic system. There are wires everywhere, and I just can't figure >what goes where. #1 issue is that the alternetor(with external regulator) >is not charging the battery. Someone said in passing that therer were two >wires crossed, but neglected to tell me which ones. well, make life simpler for yourself. Replace that external regulated alternator with a "one-wire" type GM alternator taking care to get it installed correctly with fusible link and bypassing the factory ampmeter setup. Getting a book on basic auto wiring is the safest thing to do at this point. If you have the time and the inclination your best bet is to rip out the current wiring and start from scratch or upgrading it with a wiring harness from a newer FSJ. Either are lots of work but might keep you from burning your jeep down to the ground. :) Whatever you do make sure the wiring is secured, not on hot or sharp objects and properly taped and tied up. :) >I've scoured the old Chilton's manual, but cannot figure the schematics out. If you have a fireplace I recommend using the Chilton's manual to start your fires. If you have an outhouse... ;) Actually, keep it around as it might have some factory illustrations that will be useful. Chilton's was good in the '60's and early '70's but they went downhill after that. Haynes is ok, but only moderately so... the factory manuals are the only way to go. get on the list (I'm sending this ahead) there will be folks there that can help you and discuss it with others who've been there before, I'm too busy teaching and working lately... spent all day helping a friend sell his '50 Merc (the one used in the stallone movie cobra...) Then was over at another friend's house getting parts to fix SuperDawg and my son's '77 Cherokee... :) come home to 90 emails... about 75 of those spam... arghh. Need to work on my Jeep too... :) Introduce yourself on the list and you'll get plenty of detailed help... john >HELP! >Kindly- >Damon ========================================================================== For Full Size Jeep help see: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech - technical information http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs - pictures of FSJ's http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/FSJ-list.html - FSJ list on digest.net http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests - list digests more info at: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/FSJ-info.html ========================================================================== Snohomish, Washington, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... remember, leaving life with out Jesus isn't recommended... ========================================================================== ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1762 **************************