From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Dec 12 16:51:45 2002 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, December 13 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1812 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1810 fsj: Fwd: 1990 GW in TX for sale fsj: the top ten for 2001 fsj: Re: Fwd: 1990 GW in TX for sale Re: fsj: Re: Panhard bars Re: fsj: Re: Re: panhard bars fsj: Re: Panhard bars Re: fsj: Re: Re: panhard bars fsj: Re: [FSJ-List] Digest Number 1887 fsj: Re: Panhard bars fsj: RE: solenoid - jeep won't start fsj: the ultimate present for a real Jeeper? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:46:14 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #1810 At 12:48 AM 12/12/2002 +0000, fsj-digest wrote: >From: Tesar Landon-r16884 >Subject: [none] > >I would have a hard time supporting this if someone tried to tell me early >360s and late 360s are not interchangeable in FSJs because there is a >bushing on the crankshaft of one of them. the bushing is the spacer for the TH400... no difference otherwise... john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:51:14 -0800 From: "Jim B" Subject: fsj: Fwd: 1990 GW in TX for sale From: "master_aragorn " I have a white 1990 GW for sale. About 110,000 miles ( I will verify that). It has a 1989 Chevy truck fuel injection system on it. It has been installed for maybe 60k miles. This is a Texas car and here is NO rust to my knowledge. Recent U-joint replacement, new muffler, 10k miles on new Goodyear truck tires. This has been my daily driver for 4 or 5 years now. I did not abuse it, and when I did work on it, I did it with the idea of keeping it for a long time. My wife is really pressuring me to get a 4 door truck, and sell this jeep and keep our 84 GW. Anmybody with offers or questions, please email me. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail [TABLE NOT SHOWN][IMAGE][IMAGE][TABLE NOT SHOWN] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:05:27 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: the top ten for 2001 the top models stolen in 2001. (source: national insurance crime bureau) 1. toyota camry 2. honda accord 3. honda civic 4. olds cutlass/supreme/ciera 5. JEEP CHEROKEE/GRAND CHEROKEE 6. chevy full size c/k pickup 7. toyota corolla 8. ford taurus 9. chevy caprice 10. ford f150 pickup what are these guys thinking about? I can see #5, maybe 6, and maybe 10, but come on... what would anyone want with the rest of 'em. ;) btw, was talking to a guy in Montreal the other day and I mentioned that was where my '99 WJ had been stolen from, but recovered at the border here in Washington and then I bought it at an auction here... anyway, he said a friend of his had his WJ stolen in less then an hour and a half. He parked it, put a steering wheel lock on it, had an alarm system, serial numbers etched (just like mine) and it was still gone in about an hour. They figure it was hauled off on a flatbed... it was recovered 4 months later in a container getting ready to be shipped out of Halifax or some place over there... of course his friend already had a new one, they only make you wait 90 days. ;) john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/Filter_INFORMATION/air_filter-1.jpg http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/Filter_INFORMATION/air_filter-2.jpg SJ Jeeps: 360/401: TS-23 258: TS-12 retail $21.50 XJ Jeeps: 4.0L/2.5L('87 and up): TS-29 retail $29.95 WJ Jeeps: 4.7L: TS-104 retail $47.50 DieselBenz: typical S1118 or S1680 retail $32.50 or $39.85 http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/ order 1-800-956-5695 cust# 283461 Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:16:18 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Fwd: 1990 GW in TX for sale At 10:51 PM 12/11/2002 -0800, Jim B wrote: > From: "master_aragorn " > >I have a white 1990 GW for sale. About 110,000 miles ( I will verify >that). It has a 1989 Chevy truck fuel injection system on it. It has been >installed for maybe 60k miles. two questions: 1) what kind of fuel mileage does it get? 2) does it have a sunroof? oh, one more... ;) what kind of price are you expecting? thanx, john >This is a Texas car and here is NO rust to my knowledge. >Recent U-joint replacement, new muffler, 10k miles on new Goodyear truck >tires. This has been my daily driver for 4 or 5 years now. I did not >abuse it, and when I did work on it, I did it with the idea of keeping it >for a long time. >My wife is really pressuring me to get a 4 door truck, and sell this jeep >and keep our 84 GW. Anmybody with offers or questions, please email me. - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 11 Dec 2002 23:21:20 -0800 From: "Jim B" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Panhard bars Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:21:19 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed A: My '66 (plus before and after) full size Pontiacs and Chevs all had 4 link rear suspension with one of these bars on it (yes John, They do limit articulation, but only on one side! LOL!) The '85 GW rear axle I got from John (Model 20 with 2.72 gears I swapped Black Jack's brushguard for because I couldn't find any in the wrecking yards for Elmo) had the arm still on it. The DSPO had jumped the Jeep and tore the axle apart at the center section because the "trackbar" had rammed the diff sideways against the housing when it landed (like a 3000lb slide hammer!) From: "Machinedoc" Hi Guy's, Yes Rocky has these. All the GW's 86 and later have front and rear track bars. The 85' had it in the front, but I don't recall seeing any brackets for it in the rear. The purpose for these things, for those enquiring minds that want to know, is axle location and stability. Back in the old days (Before 4 link set-ups became popular in full bodied cars) of drag racing Panhard bars were used for stability. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: 11 Dec 2002 23:23:39 -0800 From: "Jim B" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: panhard bars Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:23:39 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed A: With worn spring bushings you can get that much side to side sitting still and turning the wheels! From: "Machinedoc" I beg to differ. :) You only need about an inch or less of side to side flex to get that clunk. I'll bet your capable of at least that much side to side play just making a slow turn. ;) Curtis _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:29:43 -0800 From: "Machinedoc" Subject: fsj: Re: Panhard bars Let's see if I can come up with a good reason ;) While the GW's don't really need these bars, they allow our Jeeps to be real luxury, utility vehicles. Most of the people that bought these new probably didn't have visions of rock crawling dancing in their heads. The Jeep wagons were advertised and shown, time and time again in movies and TV, to be utility vehicles. For fishing, ranching, camping, mountain living, etc. With these bars attached they help keep things stable and familiar in the eyes of those unfamiliar with solid axle vehicles thus helping to expand the customer base. :) (Sounds good so far, doesn't it?) Bottom line is that it makes the vehicle more stable and therefore safer both on the road and in utility applications. Those of us so inclined to use our FSJ's less civilly have the option to remove the bars with little adverse effect. After all, if we use our trucks that way then we probably won't notice the lost ride comfort anyway. Another possibility is ....about the time these bars were adopted (Mid 80's) there was a lot of bad press regarding 4x4 utility vehicles and their desire to roll over during sudden turns and defensive manuevering. Quite a bit of this press targeted Jeep vehicles. Most of this scrutiny was caused by fools with CJ's and Suzuki Samurai's. Pre-emptive strike against bad press and poor government might also have been the motivation for adopting these. Only Jeep engineers and management would know for sure. As far as articulation, or loss of it? It definately hurts articulation. Flexing of the springs are what a panhard bar is supposed to control, remember. Sway bars only control up and down movement on each end of the axle relative to the opposite end. They have no control over sideways motion. That's the reaason for the end links being the way they are. Actually articulation proves my point that the springs do flex in use. How can you have articulation, side to side, and keep the springs attached to the spring pads, if the springs don't flex side to side? ;) As for using these on SuperDawg? I've driven him. He rides fine. The only benefit I can see is stability, especially when towing. You can get an anti sway device for your trailer for less though. ;) Hope this helps, or at least is entertaining :) Curtis Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:12:33 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Re: panhard bars Yeah, I agree with you, but I don't agree that the GW's need the Panhard bars. Sway bars I can see, but not the track bars. Someone explained it to me that it helps the ride... not sure how. Care to take a shot at explaining the benefits? :) Does it limit articulation? If it helps the ride but doesn't hurt articulation then maybe we should include 'em on SuperDawg... ;) rofl.... ;) john ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:33:11 -0800 From: "Machinedoc" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: panhard bars You are right Jim. I just didn't want to get into details of completely worn suspensions, especially since the track bar bushings wear out much faster than spring bushings. Curtis - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim B" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:23 PM Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: panhard bars > > A: With worn spring bushings you can get that much side to side sitting > still and turning the wheels! > > From: "Machinedoc" > > I beg to differ. :) You only need about an inch or less of side to side > flex to get that clunk. I'll bet your capable of at least that much side to > side play just making a slow turn. ;) > Curtis > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:00:43 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [FSJ-List] Digest Number 1887 At 02:15 AM 12/10/2002 +0000, FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com wrote: >OKay, baby Cherokees are good all-around station wagons. I beg to differ. I think the XJ is the best all around Jeep ever built. It off-roads better then most of the other Jeep models in stock trim. It balances on-road with off-road comfort, finesse and control. It's economical. It's reliable. It's safe. It handles well. It's not as nice as a WJ for interstate cruising. It won't hold as much as an SJ. It won't hold up under a lot of off-road use like the bobtails or an SJ will, but the bobtails have so many shortcomings we won't go there. The SJ models have a lot of pluses, ride, balance, cargo hauling, I love 'em, but they are unreliable, uneconomical, and if you're not a mechanic, married to a mechanic or independently wealthy it'll be sitting in your driveway needing something fixed more then you'll be out enjoying it. :) > TJ Wraglers are decent off-roaders. But there was nothing in the >jeep line-up that got even close to filling both niches, and with >introduction of the Liberty as a CHerokee replacement even that was lost. I think the Cherokee filled the niche, which makes it's departure a bad thing. I think Daimler-Chrysler (with an emphasis on Chrysler) is out of their collective minds for not updating the SJ model and for cancelling both the XJ and SJ lines. The liberty reeks of Mercedes influence. It rides nicer then my '99 WJ, is quieter, but handles like it's got four soft tires and broken sway bars, it's ugly as sin, unless you like the toon town look, and is anemic. It just doesn't feel right. I went to Jeep 101 the year they launched the WJ. The TJ was to harsh, uncomfortable, just didn't feel right. The WJ was too big, reminded me of an SJ in a few areas, EXCEPT visibility (if it had "panoscopic" vision it would be perfect!), it didn't feel right except out on the open road... it's steering is too harsh in tight spaces... the XJ felt just right. perfect. It offered a good compromise between the WJ and the TJ. I hope to find a nice '97 and up loaded XJ for daily driving, especially since my '83 J10 doesn't look to be done any time soon... :) >Here's the list of turds for you - >- Dana 30 front disconnect big deal. Out of 8 XJ's I've had ONE problem with the front disconnect... it was my own fault, and all that happened was I broke a shift fork, $20 part, 20 minutes to fix. Trying to do a J-turn in the snow while dropping the clutch and hitting a curb all at the same time doesn't work too well... :) I prefer the disconnect over having to replace the double cardan joints on my later model XJs because the front shaft was spinning all the time, and didn't want to spend $750 for warn hubs. ;) My '87 xj with 240k shifts in and out of 4 wheel drive even at 55mph... I use it to keep from becoming an embarrassing addition to all the accidents on the road to work. :) >- Dana 35 or ChryCo 8.25 rear I've had three XJ's with over 200,000 miles, all on that D35 rear axle, never had a problem with one. My daily driver right now is an '87 XJ with 240,000 miles, 3" of lift and 31x10.5s running the stock 3.54's. Original engine and trans/xfr case and axles... no problems... I've had 21 FSJ's and haven't had one go more then 40,000 miles without needing a tranny or something. :) >- Slip-yoke NP 231 This is only a problem if you have a large lift... when my '88 XJ got t-boned at 50mph the driveshaft came out of the np242, and quite possibly spared damaging the drivetrain... of course it already had 230,000 miles and I didn't even attempt to recover anything... :) However, the slip yoke thing caused me to go for an NP219 in my J10 instead of an NP242. >- XJ body: one wheel on the curb, you can't open the tailgate it's not quite that bad, but the tailgate is fiberglass and if the hinges aren't maintained a bit they can wedge. :) The pins walk out of the hinges... It's still a LOT better then messing with that stupid rear window on the GW's. I have a J10 because I love FSJs but can not deal with that flippin' rear window setup. :) The '97 and up XJ's use a metal tailgate, I would think they have fewer issues. :) fwiw, the Uni-frame construction on the XJ's does suffer from a lot of off-road use. I've seen the control arms ripped off the frame rails... cracks appear on the roof from flexing, and so on. So, yeah, the xj body isn't all that robust, but for moderate wheeling it holds up fine. :) >- ZJ and WJ body: one rear-end, and you won't be able to open >or close tailgate forever that's true of any of the wagons though... The WJ and ZJ have so much plastic on their bumper ends that if you got rear ended it'd be hard to tell if there was any damage... maybe you couldn't close the tailgate because the offending vehicle would still be embedded. ;) > YJ: open channel frame that's like no frame at all. still it's got to be better then what I've seen in Dodge pickups. :) >(In Jeep's defense, the new Quadra-drive setup with D44s all around >is 100% excellent, like no one else.) yeah, but the factory set up the preload incorrectly and everyone is blaming the Dana 44 axle! Mine went bad just outside of the warranty... $650 or so... it's fixed right now. Quadradrive is pretty cool, but I've had just as much success with any Jeep 4x4 system. Quadra-drive uses Quadratrac at the heart of it all, and the veri-lock axles... >I could go on about little bits and pieces here and there, having >owned (and liked) an XJ before, and worked on my friends' XJ, ZJ, and >YJs a number of times. IMO, the recent Land Rovers are the closest >thing ever to a full size jeep, concept and execution-wise. Rovers are ok. They stole a lot of ideas and concept from Jeep. I've got a couple of friends with them. One friend has a '98 or '99 and rode in my tired old '88 XJ and couldn't believe how much power it had... :) His Range Rover had a 4.0L, right? :) The Rover cruises nice on the interstate, but trying to figure out the controls is a lesson in Klingon logic. ;) He has a lot of fun with the suspension, raising and lowering it... One thing I do wish though... is that we'd have the option for Diesel engines in our Jeeps. :) I had a turbo Diesel in my '85 XJ, while underpowered and parts were expensive, it was a blast. :) later, john - ----------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:03:26 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Panhard bars At 11:29 PM 12/11/2002 -0800, Machinedoc wrote: >Let's see if I can come up with a good reason ;) good job. and no, we don't need 'em on SuperDawg. :) and if I should ever get a late model GW you can have the ones I remove as spares for Rocky. ;) john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 06:43:30 -0600 From: Jay Subject: fsj: RE: solenoid - jeep won't start I just had a smiliar problem on my 89 GW. Started out that you had to turn the key several times before the starter would engage. Finally just would not engage at all. Coould hear a slight click under the hood. Replaced Starter/Bendix. Checked Neutral/Safety switch. Ended up being a very easy fix - corrosion on the Starter Relay. A little WD-40, wire brushing on the connections and all is well. Jay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:24:48 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: the ultimate present for a real Jeeper? What could be better then a share of Willys Overland stock? (oh yeah, sure, burst my bubble and tell me they're out of business... ;) (fwiw, someone sent me a picture of her stepfather who had worked and retired from the old Willys plant: http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/HISTORY/RalphOffenberg/1937.html ) Anyway, looks like a cool Christmas gift idea for the Jeeper that has everything... :) see: http://store.yahoo.com/scripophily/wilovmotinc.html but at $129 and change it's a bit more then I expect to find in my stocking on Christmas morning. :) But take a look, the write up on the page is quite interesting, see below: Beautifully engraved certificate (post bankruptcy) from Willy's Overland Motors, Inc. issued in 1926. This historic document has an ornate border around it with an allgeorical vignette. This item has the printed signatures of the company's officers and and is over 74 years old. The Willys-Overland Company John North Willys bought the Overland Automotive Division of Standard Wheel Company in 1908 and in 1912 named it the Willys-Overland Motor Company. Willys-Overland made both automobiles and trucks. Some of the coolest street rods are based on pre WW2 Willys. If you've never seen a Willys-Overland car, check out the Willys-Overland-Knight Registry. The company was reorganized in 1936 after a depression bankruptcy to Willys-Overland Motors, Inc. The Birth of the Jeep As the war in Europe spread in the late '30s, the US Military wanted a new light-weight, four-wheel-drive, general-purpose vehicle. One story has it that "GP" was the abbreviation for "general purpose", but was pronounced "jeep", hence the name. They solicited designs in 1940 and while Willys and Ford both submitted entries, the government selected a vehicle design by the Bantam Car Company. Bantam made over two thousand vehicles, but couldn't supply the volume needed, and the military wanted multiple suppliers. Willys got a contract to build Jeeps in late 1940. Ford was also awarded a contract in late 1940. Many parts were interchangeable between the Willys and Ford Jeeps. Willys-Overland made about 360,000 Jeeps for the military between 1941 and 1945. They proved to be rugged and dependable in the war, and by the time the soldiers came home, Jeeps were well known and loved for their durability and unstoppability. After the War Willys-Overland was not one of the automotive giants in the prewar era, and had completely retooled their production facilities to Jeeps. After the war, the best market opportunities were judged to be to continue making Jeeps, not only for the military (whose demand was much reduced) but to sell them to the civilian market as well. The most direct product transition was the CJ (Civilian Jeep) line. This product was little changed from those that had "won the war". The first CJ-2A was produced in 1945. The line has continued from the CJ2 through the CJ3, CJ5, CJ6, CJ7, and CJ8. (They did make a CJ4 but it was only a prototype that never went into production.) The CJ5 and CJ7 are the most common, with the CJ7 being a little longer than the CJ5. The CJ6 and CJ8 were longer wheel base than the CJ7, but they weren't as popular, and consequently there were fewer of them manufactured. I think there was a CJ10, but it wasn't sold in the US. Model Years Quantity CJ-2A 1945 - 1949 214k CJ-3A 1946 - 1953 132k CJ-3B 1952 - 1968 155k CJ-5 1954 - 1983 611k CJ-6 1955 - 1981 50k CJ-7 1976 - 1986 379k CJ-8 1981 - 1986 28 Thanks to Tom Wanamaker, Jeff Hanselman, Joe Schaefer The Wrangler (YJ) is a direct descendent of the CJ line, so I guess you can say that the original Jeep line is still going. But since 1963 Jeeps have been manufactured by Kaiser, AMC, and Chrysler. So I'm getting side-tracked from the Willys story. The Willys Back in those post-war years, Willys-Overland tried to broaden their market by returning to the car and truck business, in addition to the CJ's. Their products were nothing like the smooth, graceful pre-war products. Instead they capitalized on the tough, utilitarian image of the Jeep with three new vehicles: the Willys Jeep Wagon in 1946, the Willys Jeep Truck in 1947, and the Willys Jeepster in 1948. These were called the 'Jeep' Utility Vehicles and all retained clear influences of the military Jeep, but the forms were intermediate between the normal rounded forms of the autos of the period and the boxy Jeep. The wagon was similar to the panel trucks or delivery wagons of the day, but with those unmistakable flat fenders (and later 4WD). The truck was similar in size and functionality of a GMC, Ford or Dodge truck of the day, but once again with the Jeep look and available in 4WD. The Jeepster was a convertible about half-way between a military Jeep and a sports car. This two wheel drive vehicle was only made from 1948 to 1950, but was resurrected by AMC in the '60's as the Jeepster Commando. The wagon and pickup truck were available in both 2WD and 4WD with a 4-cylinder or 6-cylinder engine. Kaiser bought Willys-Overland in 1953 and dropped "Overland" from the name. In the 1956, Willys introduced snub-nosed forward control models. Production of Willys wagons and trucks continued under the name of the Willys Motor Company until 1963, when the name was changed to the Kaiser-Jeep Corporation. Production of the Willys wagons and trucks continued for two more years until 1965. Thus ended the production of those interesting vehicles we call Willys. Model Years Quantity Wagons 1946 - 1965 over 300k Trucks 1947 - 1965 over 200k Jeepster 1948 - 1950 19k Thanks to Tom Wanamaker What's in a Name The original pronunciation of "Willys" was with a short "i" sound for the 'y"; so it sounded the same as "Willis". But it seems to have been transmuted by the same flexibility of language that produced "Jeep" out of "GP". Most everyone I have every talked with pronounces it with a long "e" sound for the "y". Being pronounced "will' eez", it might well be taken as the plural for Willy (which is as good a nickname for William as Bill). The official DMV title for my truck lists the make as a "Willy". I guest that it is because it is only one vehicle and "Willys" would obviously be more than one. No one ever claimed that the folks at the Department of Motor Vehicles were very bright. Even my insurance agent asked me if there was an "e" before the "y". Anyway, I use the term Willys (pronounced will' eez) as a nickname for those unique trucks and wagons produced from 1946 until 1965. Later, AMC bought Kaiser (1970) and Chrysler bought AMC (1987). Company History 1908 John North Willys buys the Overland Automotive Division of Standard Wheel Company and in 1912 renames it Willys-Overland Motor Company. 1936 Coming out of bankruptcy following the Great Depression, the company is reorganized as Willys-Overland Motors, Inc. 1940 Working from a Bantam Car Company design, Willys contracts to build military Jeeps for the war and produces about 360,000 vehicles by 1945. 1945 Willys-Overland begins producing the Civilian Jeep (CJ) line, with the introduction of the CJ2A model. 1946 Production begins on the Willys Jeep Wagon. Over 300,000 are manufactured between 1946 and 1965. CJ3A is introduced, and more than 132,000 are made before the production ends in 1953. 1947 Production begins on the Willys Jeep Truck. From 1947 to 1965, more than 200,000 are manufactured. 1948 Production begins on the Willys Jeepster. Only 19,000 vehicles are manufactured from 1948 to 1950. 1952 Willys CJ3B Jeeps go into production. By 1968, over 155,000 are sold. 1953 Kaiser buys Willys-Overland and changes name to Willys Motor Company. 1954 CJ5 debuts at the start of its three-decade run. 1963 Company changes name to Kaiser-Jeep Corporation. 1965 Kaiser-Jeep discontinues production of Willys wagons and trucks, retiring the Willys name with the line. 1970 American Motors Corporation takes over Kaiser-Jeep. 1975 CJ5 model is updated for the 1970s. 1975 Willys-Overland resurrected as a wholesale/retail parts business. 1976 Offering an optional automatic transmission, the CJ7 starts its 10-year run. 1983 By the time the last CJ5 rolls off the line in 1983, more than 610,000 of the vehicles have hit the highways in the U.S. and around the world. 1984 The XJ series Cherokee is introduced to compete in the growing compact SUV market. 1987 American Motors is purchased by Chrysler Corporation. 1993 Chrysler introduces the ZJ series Grand Cherokee to replace the discontinued Wagoneer. 1997 Redesigned TJ series Wrangler is introduced. 1998 Daimler-Benz merges with Chrysler Corporation to form DaimlerChrysler, fifth largest auto maker in the world. 1999 The Grand Cherokee is redesigned. - ----------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1812 **************************