From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Feb 1 14:42:45 2003 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, February 1 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1849 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: RUST? FSJ restorations, lasik and parts fsj: Headers on Ebay Re: fsj: Headers on Ebay fsj: Re: [WJ-Grand] Re: WJ shopping__advise welcome fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: Re: Re: Eyes, Engine, and Tires Re: fsj: Re: Re: Eyes, Engine, and Tires fsj: Re: LASIK (OT) FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:17:38 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: RUST? FSJ restorations, lasik and parts At 12:47 PM 1/31/2003 -0700, Aaron Storms wrote: >Rust can be an issue here if it's not been well maintained or garaged. XJ's >are a dime a dozen here - very plentiful and very inexpensive to purchase >and fix up. wonder why XJ's are so plentiful out there... too bad it's so far away, otherwise we could get my son one. :) The fact that you stipulate care and handling indicates that RUST is a problem there. Here you don't need to do anything. Sure, if you leave bare metal outside it gets surface rust, but it's just not a problem. Back east (in Illinois for instance) it was a serious problem... guess a combination of the salt and high humidity in summer... One idea I've got if I should have to sell my house and move to some remote location like South Dakota is to buy up FSJ's out here, bring 'em to a barn or shop and restore and resell them from SD. pipe dream... unlikely it'll happen... just a crazy thought. ;) >My eyes aren't bothering me at the moment, so the >surgery will have to wait til other things more pressing are taken care of. >Aaron As far as the eyes, if you're interested in Lasik my friend offered a special deal for any of my friends. Email me off list if you're interested, (john-at-wagoneers.com john-at-wagoneers-dot-com) it's a substantial deal! A screaming deal... can't believe he's offering in fact! Almost half price... the BEST equipment and surgeon you can find too! In the meantime I need to get my spare parts lined up for ebay... :) I have a bunch of mostly FSJ parts to sell, a few odds and ends of XJ stuff... Will take a picture of that FSJ brushguard and see if it'll work on my xj. :) Busy trying to find a job, teaching part time and doing the UNIX classes back east this spring... :) Have a bunch of computer related technical books to sell as well... X-windows, C programming, etc.... also will be selling some HP 9000/ 3000's on ebay for a vendor friend... minimum price for a super nice system will be in the $700 range!!!! These systems were selling for $30k just 4 years ago!!! I wish I could swing one... if I sell enough of 'em I may... :) I'm thinking of offering a sale on FSJ stickers too... Need to raise some cash. ;) http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/decal.html later, john - ----------------------------- Oh well, I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess -Red Green - ------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're thinking about Lasik, you have to check out this place: http://www.restorevisioncenter.com/ My vision went from over 20/200 to 20/15 or better! Tell 'em john at wagoneers.com sent you. :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:38:02 -0800 (PST) From: Alexander Wall Subject: fsj: Headers on Ebay Can anyone confirm or deny that these would actually fit my 401 out of the '76 Waggy? Also, any thoughts on whether I'd be getting ripped-off would be welcome, too! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33631&item=2401296935&rd=1 Thanks! Alex ===== Alexander Wall Spokane, WA ================================================================================= "Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure you can survive the odds beating you!" - E.L. Kersten, Ph.D. ================================================================================= Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:08:23 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Headers on Ebay looks like it should bolt up... but the question is how well it'll clear all the driveline stuff... cj7 would have the same issues as a Wag as far as driveshafts... their frame is tighter so you should clear that stuff ok... why headers? been there, done that ain't going back... they're a pain, they're noisier, they add heat to the engine compartment and they really only benefit you at higher RPM... you mud boggin' at 4,500 rpm??? for low end torque you want the stock manifolds... I usually wouldn't recommend headers to my worst enemy... ;) john At 04:38 PM 1/31/2003 -0800, Alexander Wall wrote: > Can anyone confirm or deny that these would actually fit my 401 out of > the '76 Waggy? Also, any >thoughts on whether I'd be getting ripped-off would be welcome, too! > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33631&item=2401296935&rd=1 > >Thanks! > >Alex > > >===== >Alexander Wall >Spokane, WA >================================================================================= >"Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure you can survive the odds >beating you!" - E.L. Kersten, Ph.D. >================================================================================= >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:14:58 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [WJ-Grand] Re: WJ shopping__advise welcome At 07:08 PM 1/31/2003 -0800, David Jones wrote: >Great to hear you eye procedure went well. Amazing >waht can be done today. it was worth the wait... it's so cool seeing without glasses... :) of course now I need glasses up close, but hey, that's fine with me. :) Wheelin' in the mud and rain just got very easy. Before I'd have to mess with my glasses just getting out of the Jeep to check something. :) my friend offered the same discount to any of my friends, email me off list for a screamin' deal on Lasik surgery! >I ran 31's on my XJ for a couple years with the 3.55s >adn you're right it bogs it down. I went to 4.11's >and it was like a new truck. Best money you can spend yeah, thinking about getting 4.10's for the xj... but then my job went away... my son is thinking about getting an xj and I told him I'd sell him the 31's and I'll go back to 235's, solves a number of issues... economy, the speedo, power... :) Found one with a blown engine, need to call on it... It may be nicer then mine... it's an 88 loaded... >IMHO. I went from 9 MPG towing a 2500 lb camper at 65 >MPH to 14 MPG. She was able to stay in over drive on >all except significant grades. cool. I went with 4.09's on Superdawg... he's getting a 4.0L out of a '96 XJ. ('83 J10 Stepside) My J10 came stock with 3.31's which is a LOT better then the normal 2.72's on a lot of the GW's. :) >I recommed everyone engage their 4 Lo once a month. >Just take a few minutes pull of the side ofthe highway >in the grass or get on a dirt road and shift her for >1/2 mile or so. all I need to do is engage to get up my hillside... :) verifies that Quadradrive is indeed working... my XJ struggles even in low range to make it up the hill, same tires even... >Use it or loose it. :) john - ----------------------------- Oh well, I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess -Red Green - ------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're thinking about Lasik, you have to check out this place: http://www.restorevisioncenters.com/ My vision went from over 20/200 to 20/15 or better! Tell 'em john at wagoneers.com sent you. :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 07:15:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:09:10 -0600 From: "Vince Orr" Subject: fsj: Re: Re: Eyes, Engine, and Tires Regarding Lasik surgery: I just had my surgery last Tuesday. Eyes still healing a bit but it's great having my vision so improved and getting my peripheral vision unobstructed. Feel a bit naked without glasses and I keep trying to push them up my nose and tapping myself between the eyes! Definitely worth the money, I guess the lift and the front bumper for Rez will wait.... Word of wise: Remember, you don't have the protection of glasses anymore after the procedure! Wear safety glasses when working on your FSJ! It's been 6 months since I put the rebuilt 360 (with Edelbrock parts) in Rez. Engine runs great! Still lots of power. The engine used some oil at first but the rings are set now and it doesn't use a drop. Regarding Tires: My TJ needs tires. The original Goodyear Wranglers still have tread but I'm a slippin' and a slidin' down the street. Seems pretty bogus to have to put the thing in 4WD just to pull away from a stop without spinning! Another solution would be some sort of limited slip diff in the rear end. It pisses me off that Jeep sells TJ's with open differentials. I'd prefer selectable lockers but not ready to invest in the TJ right now when Rez still needs some work. Anyone got a good recommendation for tires? I'd like something along the lines of BFG mud terrain but I don't want to spend top dollar. Thought I'd visit Costco or Sam's and look around too. - --Vince '81 Wagoneer (Rez Runner - 360, np219, tf727, D44 front, AMC 20 rear) '99 TJ (4 L, ? Tcase, D30 front, D35 rear) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: ; ; Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: fsj: Re: [WJ-Grand] Re: WJ shopping__advise welcome At 07:08 PM 1/31/2003 -0800, David Jones wrote: >Great to hear you eye procedure went well. Amazing >waht can be done today. it was worth the wait... it's so cool seeing without glasses... :) of course now I need glasses up close, but hey, that's fine with me. :) Wheelin' in the mud and rain just got very easy. Before I'd have to mess with my glasses just getting out of the Jeep to check something. :) my friend offered the same discount to any of my friends, email me off list for a screamin' deal on Lasik surgery! >I ran 31's on my XJ for a couple years with the 3.55s >adn you're right it bogs it down. I went to 4.11's >and it was like a new truck. Best money you can spend yeah, thinking about getting 4.10's for the xj... but then my job went away... my son is thinking about getting an xj and I told him I'd sell him the 31's and I'll go back to 235's, solves a number of issues... economy, the speedo, power... :) Found one with a blown engine, need to call on it... It may be nicer then mine... it's an 88 loaded... >IMHO. I went from 9 MPG towing a 2500 lb camper at 65 >MPH to 14 MPG. She was able to stay in over drive on >all except significant grades. cool. I went with 4.09's on Superdawg... he's getting a 4.0L out of a '96 XJ. ('83 J10 Stepside) My J10 came stock with 3.31's which is a LOT better then the normal 2.72's on a lot of the GW's. :) >I recommed everyone engage their 4 Lo once a month. >Just take a few minutes pull of the side ofthe highway >in the grass or get on a dirt road and shift her for >1/2 mile or so. all I need to do is engage to get up my hillside... :) verifies that Quadradrive is indeed working... my XJ struggles even in low range to make it up the hill, same tires even... >Use it or loose it. :) john - ----------------------------- Oh well, I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess - -Red Green - ------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're thinking about Lasik, you have to check out this place: http://www.restorevisioncenters.com/ My vision went from over 20/200 to 20/15 or better! Tell 'em john at wagoneers.com sent you. :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:29:14 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: Eyes, Engine, and Tires At 01:09 PM 2/1/2003 -0600, Vince Orr wrote: you're right about the safety glasses... need readers too... costco has a pack of readers with sunglass/byfocals! very cool... after the post-op exam I went to home depot and bought a couple pair of safety glasses. :) >Anyone got a good recommendation for tires? I'd like something along the >lines of BFG mud terrain but I don't want to spend top dollar. Thought I'd >visit Costco or Sam's and look around too. the kirkland brand of tires appear to be made by BFG. I recommend Michelin or BFG. goodyears don't last... All of my Jeeps have Michelin LTX series on them... I have run BFG AT's, and will again... the MT's are a bit noiser and more aggressive, need to be siped. The new BFG AT KO's don't need to be siped from what I've heard, the older series did... john - ----------------------------- Oh well, I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess -Red Green - ------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're thinking about Lasik, you have to check out this place: http://www.restorevisioncenters.com/ My vision went from over 20/200 to 20/15 or better! Tell 'em john at wagoneers.com sent you. :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:22:38 CST From: Dan Black Subject: fsj: Re: LASIK (OT) "Vince Orr" said: {- Regarding Lasik surgery: {- I just had my surgery last Tuesday. Eyes still healing a bit but it's great {- having my vision so improved and getting my peripheral vision unobstructed. I had mine done in January '99. I agree; it's great. Mine are 20/15 now. (Note that they do change a fair amount the first month after surgery, and a bit more for up to a year. The 20/15 was at the end of the year, though I passed my driver's license sight test with no requirement for corrective lenses the very next morning.) For anybody considering it, I'd just remind you that you get what you pay for. There are places, especially in bigger cities, that will do both eyes for $1000. Those are amateurs (who may _never_ be pros), and you're nothing more than a test subject. I'd expect to pay $3-5K for both eyes at a reputable place, depending on what area you're in. The guy who did mine was one of the ones who developed the procedure. (The Wolfe Clinic is in Iowa, and one of their main offices -- I think the original office -- is in my hometown, Marshalltown. People do literally fly in from all over the world to get all kinds of eye work done here.) So heknew what he was doing ;) , and yep, they were great right away, and 20/15 when it was all over (again, they change a bit as they heal for up to a year after the surgery). The cost there was $3800 for both eyes (dunno if that's changed in four years). (I happened to get good discounts because (a) my dad knows the guy and has worked with him, and (b) I used our university's flex pay for employees, so it was pre-taxes -- and I got to pay for it over 12 months. I ended up seeing just under $200/month taken out of my pay for a year. But if anybody paid a $2400 _normal_ price for LASIK, I'd still be mildly concerned about the quality or experience of their doctor.) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Out of mind. 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