From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Apr 1 23:00:43 2003 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, April 2 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1898 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: brushguard & tire carrier sold... fsj: Reamer tool fsj: Rear Main Seal Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long RE: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long RE: fsj: Aluminum intake wanted Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long RE: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long RE: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:13:44 -0800 From: john Subject: fsj: brushguard & tire carrier sold... Thanx all for the interest... both the brushguard and tire carrier are sold... thinking maybe I should have put 'em on ebay. ;) rofl... way more popular then I expected. :) All that's left is the packin' and shippin'. ;) BTW, while the chance of creating that new Aussie Bull Bar for the SJ went away with Terry's crash, I do have the Fiberglass Stepside fenders available. I'm heading up to get them in about three weeks. If anyone is interested in placing an order contact me off list. Should have time to get an order in. :) Also, I forwarded a list of stuff a local friend is selling to the FSJ parts list on yahoo, he's got to move... Also, if anyone is interested in a 258/4.2L I have a couple... both need some attention... also have a couple of TH400's and QT's. I'd like to sell my son's '79 Golden Eagle Cherokee... not sure he wants to, but I do... ;) rofl... I'm up in the Seattle area, shipping the transmissions or engines isn't a good idea... When I get some time I have some more jeep parts I should put up on ebay... fwiw, I'm relisting that '64 Cadillac for my neighbor, sold their van and he's having the boat restored... my ebay id is dieseljohn if you want to see if I've put the parts up... later, john-at-wagoneers.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:02:17 -0700 From: Tesar Landon-r16884 Subject: fsj: Reamer tool but I still have to find the reamer tool for the front spindle so I can steer it. I believe my spindle is oblong, this is the eye where the tie rod connects, right? Or are we talking about a bearing surface? Anyway, what's the right tool to use? - - Landon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 12:46:43 -0600 From: "Jerrit Coward" Subject: fsj: Rear Main Seal Getting ready to replace the rear main seal on my 88 Grand Wagoneer. I have read Chilton's. Any other advice from the school of hard knocks? Thanks Jerrit ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:18:26 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Loxtercamp Subject: Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal There was just a thread about this about a month ago. Check the archive...John may have it on his site??? There was some good info... At a minimum, read the Factory Service Manual... Greg - --- Jerrit Coward wrote: > Getting ready to replace the rear main seal on my 88 Grand > Wagoneer. I > have read Chilton's. Any other advice from the school of hard > knocks? > > Thanks > > Jerrit Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:06:24 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Loxtercamp Subject: Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long OK, I tracked down the beginning of the thread... Go to: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/ There is a directory structure of list digests... In particular, open up: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/fsj-digest-v1-1852.txt or ...if that doesn't open, it may have gotten moved to the FSJ-v1-1800 directory (it'll happen soon...current count is 1897 and I suspect the current 18xx listings will auto move when it rolls to 1900...thanks's to John masterful coding skills :) ) http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/FSJ-v1-1800/fsj-digest-v1-1852.txt ...anyway, take a look at the bottom of the digest, namely, the one mailing entitled : Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:41:46 -0800 From: "Faith Jeff" Subject: fsj: Q upper half of main rear oil seal Start reading there...then go to the next digest http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/fsj-digest-v1-1853.txt ...and so on... The list strays from just replacing the upper half of the rear main seal, to replacing the main bearings...a worthy thing to do since you're in there anyway. Basically, to do the job, you have to loosen all the main bearing caps, which will drop the crank just a bit so you can replace the upper bearing seal. The recomendation about the replacement of the main bearings is to replace with new of the same thickness...pretty easy, I suspect... Good luck...Greg - --- Jerrit Coward wrote: > Am a newbie here. How do I get to the threads? Had hell figuring > how > to get on the list. Also is the factory service manual posted > somewhere > on the internet. > > Thanks for helping the computer illiterate > > >>> Greg Loxtercamp 04/01/03 01:18PM >>> > There was just a thread about this about a month ago. Check the > archive...John may have it on his site??? There was some good > info... > > At a minimum, read the Factory Service Manual... > > Greg > > --- Jerrit Coward wrote: > > Getting ready to replace the rear main seal on my 88 Grand > > Wagoneer. I > > have read Chilton's. Any other advice from the school of hard > > knocks? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jerrit > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://platinum.yahoo.com Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:30:24 -0500 From: James Isennock Subject: RE: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long Let me jump in and say while you're that far in, replace all the rod and main bearings. Bearings are really quite cheap, the cost to have it done is in the labor. If you get it torn down far enough for the rear main may as well do the whole job as you'll be looking right at them and its only a couple extra hours. Jay Isennock - -----Original Message----- From: Greg Loxtercamp [mailto:greglox-at-yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:06 PM To: Jerrit Coward Cc: fsj Subject: Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long OK, I tracked down the beginning of the thread... Go to: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/ There is a directory structure of list digests... In particular, open up: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/fsj-digest-v1-1852.txt or ...if that doesn't open, it may have gotten moved to the FSJ-v1-1800 directory (it'll happen soon...current count is 1897 and I suspect the current 18xx listings will auto move when it rolls to 1900...thanks's to John masterful coding skills :) ) http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/FSJ-v1-1800/fsj-digest-v1-1852.txt ...anyway, take a look at the bottom of the digest, namely, the one mailing entitled : Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:41:46 -0800 From: "Faith Jeff" Subject: fsj: Q upper half of main rear oil seal Start reading there...then go to the next digest http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/fsj-digest-v1-1853.txt ...and so on... The list strays from just replacing the upper half of the rear main seal, to replacing the main bearings...a worthy thing to do since you're in there anyway. Basically, to do the job, you have to loosen all the main bearing caps, which will drop the crank just a bit so you can replace the upper bearing seal. The recomendation about the replacement of the main bearings is to replace with new of the same thickness...pretty easy, I suspect... Good luck...Greg - --- Jerrit Coward wrote: > Am a newbie here. How do I get to the threads? Had hell figuring > how > to get on the list. Also is the factory service manual posted > somewhere > on the internet. > > Thanks for helping the computer illiterate > > >>> Greg Loxtercamp 04/01/03 01:18PM >>> > There was just a thread about this about a month ago. Check the > archive...John may have it on his site??? There was some good > info... > > At a minimum, read the Factory Service Manual... > > Greg > > --- Jerrit Coward wrote: > > Getting ready to replace the rear main seal on my 88 Grand > > Wagoneer. I > > have read Chilton's. Any other advice from the school of hard > > knocks? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jerrit > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://platinum.yahoo.com Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 17:48:36 -0500 From: James Isennock Subject: RE: fsj: Aluminum intake wanted Oh Well, Anyone else have something? Edelbrock, Offy, I think Holley made one too. I would even consider a stock 4Bbl intake except that shipping that heavy monster would be $$$$ Jay Isennock - -----Original Message----- From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:50 PM To: James Isennock Subject: RE: fsj: Aluminum intake wanted doesn't sound like it's available... no response... :( john At 01:02 PM 4/1/2003 -0500, James Isennock wrote: >Thanks for the help. An Offy would be great!! > >Jay > >-----Original Message----- >From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] >Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:25 PM >To: James Isennock; Jeep maillist (E-mail) >Cc: elliott sydnam >Subject: Re: fsj: Aluminum intake wanted > > >I had an Offenhauser a while back... can't remember who ended >up with it... but if he still has it he'll get in touch with you. ;) > >john > >At 05:30 PM 3/31/2003 -0500, James Isennock ,wrote: > >I sure would like to upgrade my Wagoneer's 360 with an Edelbrock Performer > >or similar aluminum intake. Preferably with provisions for EGR. I might be > >interested in a carb/intake combo but I do have a barely used Holley spread > >bore that I intend to use for this truck. Anyone have something gathering > >dust?? > > > >Jay Isennock > >Project Manager > >Centennial Contractors Enterprises Inc. > >Office 410-297-6790 > >Fax 410-297-6794 > >Mobile 443-324-4056 > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! >------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:16:01 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal step one: place the chilton's manual under one of the rear tires step two: find a factory service manual, read step three: raise front end, leaving tires on ground, this will provide clearance to drop oil pan step four: drop oil pan (starter?)and possibly flex plate cover step five: remove rear main cap bolts in rear and follow instructions previously given for getting the old seal out... step six: reverse procedure step seven: put chilton's on ebay and sell for whatever you can recover and buy a factory service manual or copy... keep things clean... :) john At 12:46 PM 4/1/2003 -0600, Jerrit Coward wrote: >Getting ready to replace the rear main seal on my 88 Grand Wagoneer. I >have read Chilton's. Any other advice from the school of hard knocks? > >Thanks > >Jerrit - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:16:37 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal http://wagoneers.com/ on front page is a search tool that goes through the FSJ digests... john At 11:18 AM 4/1/2003 -0800, Greg Loxtercamp wrote: >There was just a thread about this about a month ago. Check the >archive...John may have it on his site??? There was some good >info... > >At a minimum, read the Factory Service Manual... > >Greg > >--- Jerrit Coward wrote: > > Getting ready to replace the rear main seal on my 88 Grand > > Wagoneer. I > > have read Chilton's. Any other advice from the school of hard > > knocks? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jerrit >Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more >http://platinum.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:18:11 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long If someone has a better Perl cgi-bin script for searching files let me know, the one on my site was from matt's script archive and badly needs to be optimized... sorry for how crummy it is... If I get the time I can write a shell script that will be faster... :) john At 12:06 PM 4/1/2003 -0800, Greg Loxtercamp wrote: >OK, I tracked down the beginning of the thread... > >Go to: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/ > >There is a directory structure of list digests... > >In particular, open up: > >http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/fsj-digest-v1-1852.txt or > >...if that doesn't open, it may have gotten moved to the FSJ-v1-1800 >directory (it'll happen soon...current count is 1897 and I suspect >the current 18xx listings will auto move when it rolls to >1900...thanks's to John masterful coding skills :) ) > > >http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/FSJ-v1-1800/fsj-digest-v1-1852.txt > >...anyway, take a look at the bottom of the digest, namely, the one >mailing entitled : > > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:41:46 -0800 > From: "Faith Jeff" > Subject: fsj: Q upper half of main rear oil seal > >Start reading there...then go to the next digest > http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/fsj-digest-v1-1853.txt >...and so on... > >The list strays from just replacing the upper half of the rear main >seal, to replacing the main bearings...a worthy thing to do since >you're in there anyway. > >Basically, to do the job, you have to loosen all the main bearing >caps, which will drop the crank just a bit so you can replace the >upper bearing seal. The recomendation about the replacement of the >main bearings is to replace with new of the same thickness...pretty >easy, I suspect... > >Good luck...Greg > >--- Jerrit Coward wrote: > > Am a newbie here. How do I get to the threads? Had hell figuring > > how > > to get on the list. Also is the factory service manual posted > > somewhere > > on the internet. > > > > Thanks for helping the computer illiterate > > > > >>> Greg Loxtercamp 04/01/03 01:18PM >>> > > There was just a thread about this about a month ago. Check the > > archive...John may have it on his site??? There was some good > > info... > > > > At a minimum, read the Factory Service Manual... > > > > Greg > > > > --- Jerrit Coward wrote: > > > Getting ready to replace the rear main seal on my 88 Grand > > > Wagoneer. I > > > have read Chilton's. Any other advice from the school of hard > > > knocks? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Jerrit > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > > http://platinum.yahoo.com >Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more >http://platinum.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:22:01 -0800 From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long I'm not sure this is a good idea... at least not for the average mechanic or shadetree type... things have to be clean... you have to know if the crank has been turned before... you need plastigage and a good torque wrench... I'd stick with the rear main and leave well enough alone... you're just begging for trouble messing with those other bearing surfaces... Just my lazy two cents... but I've done more damage trying to "improve" things then just leaving them alone... If the guy is a master wrench he wouldn't be asking us for help, necessarily, and even if he is a competent mechanic, the environment under an FSJ just isn't the best place to be doing that... If the skill level of the requestor is there, go for it... not a bad idea... but quite frankly I'd not do it... you're just inviting a visit from Mr. Murphy... and besides, I hate the sound of a bad bearing... ;) been there, done that... trying to avoid that trip again... KISS. john At 04:30 PM 4/1/2003 -0500, James Isennock wrote: >Let me jump in and say while you're that far in, replace all the rod and >main bearings. Bearings are really quite cheap, the cost to have it done is >in the labor. If you get it torn down far enough for the rear main may as >well do the whole job as you'll be looking right at them and its only a >couple extra hours. > >Jay Isennock > >-----Original Message----- >From: Greg Loxtercamp [mailto:greglox-at-yahoo.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:06 PM >To: Jerrit Coward >Cc: fsj >Subject: Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long > > >OK, I tracked down the beginning of the thread... > >Go to: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/ > >There is a directory structure of list digests... > >In particular, open up: > >http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/fsj-digest-v1-1852.txt or > >...if that doesn't open, it may have gotten moved to the FSJ-v1-1800 >directory (it'll happen soon...current count is 1897 and I suspect >the current 18xx listings will auto move when it rolls to >1900...thanks's to John masterful coding skills :) ) > > >http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/FSJ-v1-1800/fsj-digest-v1-1852.txt > >...anyway, take a look at the bottom of the digest, namely, the one >mailing entitled : > > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:41:46 -0800 > From: "Faith Jeff" > Subject: fsj: Q upper half of main rear oil seal > >Start reading there...then go to the next digest > http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/fsj-digest-v1-1853.txt >...and so on... > >The list strays from just replacing the upper half of the rear main >seal, to replacing the main bearings...a worthy thing to do since >you're in there anyway. > >Basically, to do the job, you have to loosen all the main bearing >caps, which will drop the crank just a bit so you can replace the >upper bearing seal. The recomendation about the replacement of the >main bearings is to replace with new of the same thickness...pretty >easy, I suspect... > >Good luck...Greg > >--- Jerrit Coward wrote: > > Am a newbie here. How do I get to the threads? Had hell figuring > > how > > to get on the list. Also is the factory service manual posted > > somewhere > > on the internet. > > > > Thanks for helping the computer illiterate > > > > >>> Greg Loxtercamp 04/01/03 01:18PM >>> > > There was just a thread about this about a month ago. Check the > > archive...John may have it on his site??? There was some good > > info... > > > > At a minimum, read the Factory Service Manual... > > > > Greg > > > > --- Jerrit Coward wrote: > > > Getting ready to replace the rear main seal on my 88 Grand > > > Wagoneer. I > > > have read Chilton's. Any other advice from the school of hard > > > knocks? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Jerrit > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > > http://platinum.yahoo.com >Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more >http://platinum.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:05:05 -0500 From: James Isennock Subject: RE: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long I originally sent the following to the list February 5 of this year. ""Both rod and main bearings should be less than $100.00. If you only do one set, do the rods as they rotate twice as fast as the mains. Take a look at the bearing shell from the rear main cap you pulled. You can tell what sort of shape its in just by looking. If you see obvious grooves or scratches or an area where the inner copper material is exposed its time to replace. The most professional way to do the job involves removing the crankshaft and having the bearing surfaces checked and in most cases machined to the next standard undersize typically .010 under. Then new bearings corresponding to the undersize amount are installed. Another option is to use plastic-gauge available in better auto parts stores. This is thin plastic that is laid on the crank journal surface then the cap is replaced and torqued to spec. The plastic squishes out when the cap is torqued down. Then you remove the cap and measure how far out the plastic-gauge squished. This gives a good idea how much wear has occurred. Then you can purchase the correct undersize bearings. The way I originally mentioned is to just replace the bearings with new ones of the same size (or undersize if the crank has been previously ground down) I am sure that some will complain that not measuring and grinding the crank is sacrilege. They will say that the proper way involves the crank removal/grinding explained above Blah blah blah. I say that if the bearing is worn and you just put in a new one your better off then having done nothing at all. Also you can do it "my" way in less than a day and the only cost is the bearings as opposed to the hassle of removing your crank and hauling off to the machine shop and waiting who knows how long for machine work and then hoping that the machinist wasn't hung over and having a bad day when he grinds on your crankshaft. Sure, The best way is to machine the crank but your working on a low compression low RPM Jeep motor. If you had a race car that was spun to 8500 RPM it would be different but the Jeep motor probably never even sees 3000 RPM and it will live forever if your just replace the bearings every 50K miles or so. I have done a stock size bearing swap on two different motors so far and have been pleased with the improvements in oil pressure and the certain knowledge that I have done something relatively low cost that will pay off in increased longevity for my motor. Jay Isennock" - -----Original Message----- From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:22 PM To: James Isennock; 'Greg Loxtercamp'; Jerrit Coward Cc: fsj Subject: RE: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long I'm not sure this is a good idea... at least not for the average mechanic or shadetree type... things have to be clean... you have to know if the crank has been turned before... you need plastigage and a good torque wrench... I agree, not for the faint of heart or those afraid of getting greasy, but, Technically its rather basic, only "special" skill or tool is the torque wrench and the ability to read it. Besides the savings on doing it ones-self more than pays for a quality torque wrench that you get to keep. If the bearings are undersized as they would be for a crank that has been turned they will be marked as such on the rear check what's there and replace with same. I'd stick with the rear main and leave well enough alone... you're just begging for trouble messing with those other bearing surfaces... If a guy can do the rear main the bearing swap should be a piece of cake. Just my lazy two cents... but I've done more damage trying to "improve" things then just leaving them alone... Never had a bit of trouble with the two I've done so far, I'd do it again If the guy is a master wrench he wouldn't be asking us for help, necessarily, and even if he is a competent mechanic, the environment under an FSJ just isn't the best place to be doing that... I'm no master wrench (I don't get paid for it) just a hobbyist who knows how to read, I don't get excited and rush something, take care to maintain cleanliness where required and I'm not afraid to buy quality tools where they are important (torque wrench, dial indicator etc.) If the skill level of the requestor is there, go for it... not a bad idea... but quite frankly I'd not do it... you're just inviting a visit from Mr. Murphy... and besides, I hate the sound of a bad bearing... ;) The best way to gain/increase skill is through experience. been there, done that... trying to avoid that trip again... KISS. john At 04:30 PM 4/1/2003 -0500, James Isennock wrote: >Let me jump in and say while you're that far in, replace all the rod and >main bearings. Bearings are really quite cheap, the cost to have it done is >in the labor. If you get it torn down far enough for the rear main may as >well do the whole job as you'll be looking right at them and its only a >couple extra hours. > >Jay Isennock > >-----Original Message----- >From: Greg Loxtercamp [mailto:greglox-at-yahoo.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:06 PM >To: Jerrit Coward >Cc: fsj >Subject: Re: fsj: Rear Main Seal...I'll help you find the thread...long > > >OK, I tracked down the beginning of the thread... > >Go to: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/ > >There is a directory structure of list digests... > >In particular, open up: > >http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/fsj-digest-v1-1852.txt or > >...if that doesn't open, it may have gotten moved to the FSJ-v1-1800 >directory (it'll happen soon...current count is 1897 and I suspect >the current 18xx listings will auto move when it rolls to >1900...thanks's to John masterful coding skills :) ) > > >http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/FSJ-v1-1800/fsj-digest-v1-1852.txt > >...anyway, take a look at the bottom of the digest, namely, the one >mailing entitled : > > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:41:46 -0800 > From: "Faith Jeff" > Subject: fsj: Q upper half of main rear oil seal > >Start reading there...then go to the next digest > http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/fsj-digest-v1-1853.txt >...and so on... > >The list strays from just replacing the upper half of the rear main >seal, to replacing the main bearings...a worthy thing to do since >you're in there anyway. > >Basically, to do the job, you have to loosen all the main bearing >caps, which will drop the crank just a bit so you can replace the >upper bearing seal. The recomendation about the replacement of the >main bearings is to replace with new of the same thickness...pretty >easy, I suspect... > >Good luck...Greg > >--- Jerrit Coward wrote: > > Am a newbie here. How do I get to the threads? Had hell figuring > > how > > to get on the list. Also is the factory service manual posted > > somewhere > > on the internet. > > > > Thanks for helping the computer illiterate > > > > >>> Greg Loxtercamp 04/01/03 01:18PM >>> > > There was just a thread about this about a month ago. Check the > > archive...John may have it on his site??? There was some good > > info... > > > > At a minimum, read the Factory Service Manual... > > > > Greg > > > > --- Jerrit Coward wrote: > > > Getting ready to replace the rear main seal on my 88 Grand > > > Wagoneer. I > > > have read Chilton's. Any other advice from the school of hard > > > knocks? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Jerrit > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > > http://platinum.yahoo.com >Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more >http://platinum.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1898 **************************