From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Aug 4 08:27:26 2003 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, August 3 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1985 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: FYI fsj: OT: Any baseball card people out there? fsj: Re: 83' Wagoneer power steering filler cap fsj: RE: an FSJ moment in Snohomish... Re: fsj: Re: 83' Wagoneer power steering filler cap fsj: 83' Wagoneer Owners Manual Re: fsj: Re: 83' Wagoneer power steering filler cap fsj: another day in Snohomish... Re: fsj: Mattress Springs Under Wagoneer fsj: RE: another day in Snohomish... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 07:56:09 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: FYI hey, those doors look familar. :) I don't recognize the blue background, wazzthat? ;) http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/1963-1987-Pickups/Shortbed-lifted.jpg john At 07:14 AM 8/2/2003 -0700, elliott sydnam wrote: >http://www.ifsja.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000378#000009 > >Wet Werewolf >New Member >Member # 5089 > > posted July 08, 2003 10:20 PM > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Anyone interested in starting (or joining) any FSJ >groups around the Seattle-ish area? (King, Pierce, >Snohomish, etc) > >Been looking around, and it seems that most of the >local groups are either for smaller Jeeps, and/or >mostly out of commission nowdays. > >So, any takers? > >- Wolf / Wet Werewolf > >------------------- >- Wet Werewolf >Four Paw Drive > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Posts: 14 | From: Seattle, WA | Registered: Jun 2003 >| IP: Logged > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:12:33 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: fsj: OT: Any baseball card people out there? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44823&item=2744647451 Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73 J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck (it's alive!!), '83 Eagle wagon (soon to be modified!)http://www.virtualjeep.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 12:54:50 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: 83' Wagoneer power steering filler cap pretty standard item, GM style pump, any parts store should have one. :) john At 10:53 AM 8/2/2003 -0700, Harry Martin wrote: >List, > >I just noticed I'm missing my power steering filler cap. >Anyone know if there is a suitable after market replacement? > >Thanks, > >-- >Harry >'83 FSJ Grand Wagoneer - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 12:53:56 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: RE: an FSJ moment in Snohomish... What's even more interesting is this morning heading down to Seattle to pick up the guy buying my 190D I noticed an ATF trail all the way up the drive, down the highway, down the street to the grocery store... mostly... it tapered off after a mile or so. :) here's a picture of my "new" benz with my "old" benz (91 vs 85). http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/john-300d-n-scott-190d.jpg At 09:21 AM 8/2/2003 -0700, Joe Hughes wrote: >My friend, Dave decided he wanted to buy Mark's(John's son) Cherokee. We >brought my 83 Wag and a tow strap, because Mark's Chero sounded like the >tranny was shot. > >We'll we get there and just put some ATF in it and the tranny seemed >fine, so Dave and I hopped in my Wag to run to the ATM. I throw it in >drive it rolls a couple feet then nothing. I put it in reverse still >nothing. > >I'm not sure what happened. I just recently pumped some fluid out of >the tranny lines in Neutral to drain it some so I could replace the >linkage seal on top of the tranny, so I'm not sure if this problem is >related or not. > >Now I have to figure out how to tell if it is the tranny or the transfer >case. It seems like it is the tranny, because nothing seems to engage. >I don't hear anything other than the shift linkage when I put it in >gear. > >In the past if I had a vacuum leak the NP229 would get stuck in neutral, >but I don't think this is the case now. > >Joe Hughes >Everett, WA >83 Wagoneer Ltd. 360,727,20,44,3" lift, 33x14 tires > >-----Original Message----- >From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] >Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:02 PM >To: Recipient list suppressed >Subject: an FSJ moment in Snohomish... > > >well, the good news first, the '79 Cherokee is on it's way >to a new home maybe, I think... > >well, at least it's out of my yard... (and my son is done to one >vehicle... :) > >the bad news, well... no, let's try again... with the rest of the >story... :) > >Joe called, said his friend was interested in the cheap Cherokee. > >No problem. I had errands to run and when I got home Joe and Dave >were here talking to Mark (my son and the owner of the cheap Cherokee). > >They had come over in Joe's Wagoneer. They added ATF to the >'79 Cherokee and it was doing great. (or maybe they had used gravity to >get it back down the hill and into my driveway. ;) > >Anyway, the plan was to run up to the cash machine to pay Mark, sounded >like a >good plan. So Joe went to drive up the hill in his Wag... what >happened >exactly >we're not sure... vacuum line, transfer case failure, tranny linkage >problems, tranny failure... just don't know... wouldn't engage or make >it >move under it's own power... a true FSJ moment. > >So, with the combined brain power of a herd of lemmings (there were four >of us you know), we all figured out that the cheap Cherokee that had >been >stranded in the yard just last evening was working well enough to be >fitted >with a tow strap and would pull Joe's '84(?) Wagoneer up the hill and >hopefully to his house... > >I stayed home, minus one lemming. >Mark threw his bike in the back of the Cherokee to ride home with... > >They did make it out of the driveway... > >We'll have to wait to hear from Joe to see if they made it all >the way home. Sure hope it's just a linkage or a vacuum line. > >Perhaps Joe can retell the story with more insight and humor, after >all he was the only one grinning in the pictures. :) > >A few pix on line: (and before Joe & Dave and Mark got home, > just like I said... > http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/Joe_Hughes-Dave-Mark/ > >Life is always interesting in Snohomish... FSJ's, Diesel Benz, XJs... > >oh, one other piece of good news... no XJs, Mercedes or nearby critters >were hurt during this operation. Which is a good thing because tomorrow >morning I'm heading to the airport to pick up the new owner of the 190D >that was at the edge of the driveway in the pictures... :) > :) > >john >------------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! >------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 16:17:17 -0700 From: Harry Martin Subject: Re: fsj: Re: 83' Wagoneer power steering filler cap john wrote: > pretty standard item, GM style pump, any parts store > should have one. :) Thanks John. I found one at the local store. The Help! line of parts had one, P/N 82587 for a hefty $15! But, I can stop looking now. Now, on to the next project, to find out why my starter is (sometimes) not ingaging with the motor. I suspect a faulty ground. Some days are just better than others... - -- Harry Martin Cartoons http://www.vcnet.com/~harry '83 FSJ Grand Wagoneer ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 20:52:51 -0700 From: Harry Martin Subject: fsj: 83' Wagoneer Owners Manual Another fun discovery... It's possible I lost my '83 Grand Wagoneer Owners manual, or it was removed from my glove box while in the shop for a tune up. Dang. Anyone have one I can copy, or purchase? Harry - -- Harry Martin Cartoons http://www.vcnet.com/~harry '83 Grand Wagoneer ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 21:02:08 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: 83' Wagoneer power steering filler cap At 04:17 PM 8/2/2003 -0700, Harry Martin wrote: >john wrote: >>pretty standard item, GM style pump, any parts store >>should have one. :) > >Thanks John. > >I found one at the local store. The Help! line of parts had one, P/N 82587 >for a hefty $15! But, I can stop looking now. could have bought the whole pump at a pull-a-part for that.... shoot, that's more then jim blair and I have paid for an entire FSJ before. ;) >Now, on to the next project, to find out why my starter is (sometimes) not >ingaging with the motor. I suspect a faulty ground. if that starter is older than a year, it's due for replacement... john >Some days are just better than others... > >-- >Harry Martin Cartoons >http://www.vcnet.com/~harry >'83 FSJ Grand Wagoneer - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 21:04:07 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: another day in Snohomish... guess who dropped by today. :) Jim Blair with his "new" '73 J4000, complete with tow dolly and tempo... the hill got him too, but being the resourceful soul he was he drove out under his own power... of course I did have to push the back of the tempo sideways in the drive so he could turn around. :) thanx for taking all the scrap metal jim, hope those good parts help you out. :) john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 21:37:47 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Mattress Springs Under Wagoneer biggest problem isn't just a fire, it's the explosion and the subsequent 80% of your body covered in flames that's the problem... had a buddy who had a gas tank blow up... he was in intensive care for over 8 months... not good. john At 09:42 PM 8/2/2003 -0700, meplat wrote: >I would go under with a fire extinguisher in one hand if I was going to use >a torch! if it's rapped real tight a mototool with a heavy duty cutoff >wheel might do the job. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "john" >To: "Jim B" >Cc: "local Jeep list" >Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:40 AM >Subject: Re: fsj: Mattress Springs Under Wagoneer > > > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Jim B wrote: > > > > >-->A: I'd use an oxy-propane troch and have it all off in about 15 >minutes or > > >-->less! > > > > not sure I'd recommend that trick... grease, oil, and a gas tank > > under there... you might get away with it, but I can just see the > > pictures of the charred waggy on the news now... :) > > > > john > > > > > > >--> > > >-->From: Dan Black > > >-->Subject: Re: fsj: Mattress Springs Under Wagoneer > > >--> > > >-->"John Pettit" said: > > >-->{- Does anyone know the best way to get mattress springs out from >underneath > > >-->a > > >-->{- Wagoneer - I think it's wrapped around the drive shaft/transmission >(NOT > > >-->{- GOOD)!! > > >-->{- > > >-->{- Here's a link to some pictures: > > >-->{- http://www.johnboyproductions.com/fun/wagoneer > > >-->{- > > >-->{- I got some bolt cutters, but it would probably take me about 3 >weeks to get > > >-->{- it out with that. It won't shift into gear or anything. > > >--> > > >-->Yikes. How'd you manage that? > > >--> > > >-->Can you get to the proper bolts to remove the drive shaft? That might > > >-->help you get the main mass out with relatively less use of bolt > > >-->cutters... I doubt bolt cutters would take more than a couple hours, > > >-->though, if you aim for the perimeter of the mass of springs... > > >--> > > >-->- > > > >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------ >----- > > >-->-- > > >--> Oh, trusty soda machine, I push you for root beer, you give me >Coke. > > >-->-- Willow > > >-->- -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org > > >-->-------------- > > >--> > > > > ---- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > > ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux ** (plain text please!) > > The revolt is underway, you can not stop it. FEAR THE PENGUIN!!!! > > May the SOURCE be With GNU > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 08:03:08 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: RE: another day in Snohomish... At 12:30 AM 8/3/2003 -0700, Joe Hughes wrote: >We are trying hard to leave you another vehicle! ;-) you almost succeeded. :) Place is looking great, thanx all. The Golden Eagle and 190D and scrap is gone... still have that wood and an exterior door to get rid of, and need to sell those 35x12s. :) john >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of >john >Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:04 PM >To: fsj-at-digest.net >Cc: JeepNut >Subject: fsj: another day in Snohomish... > >guess who dropped by today. :) > >Jim Blair with his "new" '73 J4000, complete >with tow dolly and tempo... > >the hill got him too, but being the resourceful soul he >was he drove out under his own power... > >of course I did have to push the back of the tempo sideways >in the drive so he could turn around. :) > >thanx for taking all the scrap metal jim, hope those good parts >help you out. :) > >john >------------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! >------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... 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