From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Aug 11 08:28:46 2003 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, August 11 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1990 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: Jeep J4800 Camper Special, one ton dually fsj: Re: Jeep J4800 Camper Special, one ton dually fsj: pictures fsj: Re: 83 Jeep Wagoneer fsj: tire opinions sought... fsj: Manifold question FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 22:44:13 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Jeep J4800 Camper Special, one ton dually anyone have pix of the Camper Special? Elliott is looking for one... elliott sydnam thanx, john At 01:42 PM 8/8/2003 -0700, elliott sydnam wrote: >Hi John, >Any chance you may have some pics of this rig, or >could put out an APB for some pics? >I've only seen one, it was up in Bellingham about 15 >years ago and didn't have a camera with me. >I can't even dig up an advertisement picture. >I noticed that on a FSJ board yer on that a guy on >there put together a calander in 2001 that probably >had a J4800 in it, does that ring any bells? >Thanks, >Elliott Hi John, Here's the post I found the calander and J4800 mentioned in: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/FSJ-v1-1100/fsj-digest-v1-1140.txt Under photo captions: "October 2001 - 1971 AMC J4800 Camper Special and 1971 AMC Wagoneer, AMC 8 x 10 publicity transparency; current owners unknown." It was posted on 12-14-2000 by Richard Truesdell, I'll see if his e-mail might still be good. Elliott - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 23:09:11 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: fsj: Re: Jeep J4800 Camper Special, one ton dually A: There was one parked near my place till 6 months ago. I kept going by, planning to get a pic, but now the house is empty! John wrote: anyone have pix of the Camper Special? Elliott is looking for one... elliott sydnam thanx, john At 01:42 PM 8/8/2003 -0700, elliott sydnam wrote: >Hi John, >Any chance you may have some pics of this rig, or >could put out an APB for some pics? >I've only seen one, it was up in Bellingham about 15 >years ago and didn't have a camera with me. >I can't even dig up an advertisement picture. >I noticed that on a FSJ board yer on that a guy on >there put together a calander in 2001 that probably >had a J4800 in it, does that ring any bells? >Thanks, >Elliott Hi John, Here's the post I found the calander and J4800 mentioned in: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/FSJ-v1-1100/fsj-digest-v1-1140.txt Under photo captions: "October 2001 - 1971 AMC J4800 Camper Special and 1971 AMC Wagoneer, AMC 8 x 10 publicity transparency; current owners unknown." It was posted on 12-14-2000 by Richard Truesdell, I'll see if his e-mail might still be good. Elliott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 23:49:17 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: pictures took a couple pictures of the '87 xj (245k) and 300d (175k) today and when the moon came up behind the house... (was cleaning out the carport... have a bunch of XJ and SJ parts to sell... actually got the benz back in the carport. :) http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/91-300d-2.5L/Aug9-2003 john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:52:13 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: 83 Jeep Wagoneer At 09:14 AM 8/10/2003 -0700, Bob Matharu wrote: >Hi John, > >I found your article online about finding a diesel engine for a wagoneer. >I am also interested in converting my 83' Jeep Wagoneer to a diesel >engine. How are you making out? Have you changed to a diesel engine >before? If so, I am looking for any information on how to do it. well... I never did it. Old Blue was too nice of a rig and after getting him working I decided to sell him instead of finishing that project. Sold the parts I had. I'm currently putting a '96 XJ's 4.0L into my '83 J10 stepside. I decided to go with the Jeep 4.0L because of it's durability and power. Going to a Diesel in my stepside would have been ok, but I decided not to go that route. I do drive a Mercedes Diesel every day, love it... and have visions of dropping a 3.0L Turbo Diesel into a Willys Pickup someday. At this point, it's still just a dream. The reality of having a Diesel Jeep isn't a near term one. I did have an '85 Cherokee with the 2.1L Turbo Diesel and it was nice. 26mpg in town, 32mpg on the freeway. Problem was it was gutless, couldn't tow, had a manual transmission (bad back) and the French motor was expensive to get parts for. If it would have had an automatic I'd probably still have it. :) They are supposedly putting the Diesel in the KJ and hopefully later the WJ. They sell them overseas already. We got rid of our '99 WJ and if I could swing it I'd buy a new WJ with a Diesel, not sure my wife would want to give up having a 4.7L V8 though... that's a sweet motor. :) As far as how to do the conversion, it's pretty straight forward. Make sure the engine you select mates to the transmission, which mates to the transfer cases and that the driveshafts will work. I prefer to leave the transfer case in place and build around it that way I don't have to modify driveshaft lengths or worry about angles. You don't always have that luxury. The next thing is the radiator/cooling. look at where the hoses go. Fuel system will require a return line, Diesel circulates through the system. You'll probably want to do some soundproofing. :) If I were going to do it I'd consider the 6.5L TD, but only after researching it's problems. An old Ford PU with a Diesel might be ok too... research, research, research... then shop, shop, shop... Converting from one engine to another will take more time then you expect and you'll run into several "gotchas" along the way. Be prepared. Figure at least six months if you have all the parts and a place to do it. Don't be discouraged. There are solutions to any problem. Don't let the naysayers and skeptics talk you out of it. :) And I'm going to shut up now before I call my buddy that has that Willys PU with no engine... ;) btw, you'll probably want to get on the fsj list for moral support... there are several to chose from... I mainly hang out on digest.net. ttyl, john meister ========================================================================== For Full Size Jeep help see: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech - technical information http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs - pictures of FSJ's http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/FSJ-list.html - FSJ list on digest.net http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests - list digests occasional FSJ stuff on ebay, see: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/dieseljohn/ http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/decal.html - the FSJ logo/stickers more info on other lists, etc. at: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/FSJ-info.html ========================================================================== Snohomish, Washington, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... remember, leaving life with out Jesus isn't recommended... ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:13:53 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: tire opinions sought... I think I've mentioned my bias on tires (no pun intended), but I want to hear what others would suggest for the PNW. This is going on my '91 300d, it has the wrong size tires on it right now. It's unlikely I'd drive it in snow, unless I got caught at work. Mostly wet road, cool climate. top speed of car is 121mph, tire size is: 195/65-15 seems like H rated is what's required. http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/91-300d-2.5L/ Looking for good handling, ride comfort, longevity and good wet road characteristics. I'll listen, and not reply. thanx for your suggestions, opinions and thoughts. :) What would you select? and why? thanx, john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 21:48:02 +0930 From: Joe Morrison Subject: fsj: Manifold question Hi folks Just removed an split the manifolds on my 6-258 motor to discover that the joint between them at the heat riser was a cork gasket. This can't be right. Could someone tell me what is normally used here? Metal or fibre? I'll probably have to make something myself. Also all of the bolts holding the manifold to the head were only just holding. Any suggestions how I can make them more secure? Thanks for any tips. Joe Morrison Port Lincoln South Australia ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1990 **************************