From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Oct 11 19:23:42 2003 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, October 12 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2028 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #2026 fsj: Fwd: Axle work fsj: hub cover fsj: new bodies Re: fsj: Axle work Re: fsj: jeep hub caps fsj: Re: new bodies fsj: Re: new bodies fsj: FW: '70 Jeep Pickup Re: fsj: FW: '70 Jeep Pickup fsj: Jeep repair CDrom fsj: going after yet another Jeep pickup! FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:39:46 EDT From: Moontanman-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: fsj-digest V1 #2026 In a message dated 10/7/03 2:20:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net writes: > > > I feel the Admiral's pain. My FSJ went away a couple years ago, and all I > > have left is a wheel hub cover. The Admiral has some of those left from > > the USSGW. We have discussed having another SouthWest Ohio chapter of the > > IFSJA festival in the future, but it should take up less space since we > > can carry all that's left of our babies in a grocery bag. > > > > Unlike the Admiral, I didn't sell my FSJ. My wife set it on fire while I > > was out of town. She says it was an accident. Her (flimsy) evidence is > > that she was on a freeway bridge during rush hour with 2 of my 3 children > > on board. I have my doubts... Seems like a lot of work just to get me to > > make the car go away. I will have another one of these days! (FSJ, I > > mean. Unclear on the wife issue at this writing) > Maybe one day soon we will be able to buy a car custom designed for the person who is buying it. Or more likely someone will start producing wide track full sized Cherokees in some other country and we can buy a new one and import it! personally I wish someone would just start producing new bodies for our old babies. My jeeps drive train is perfect but the body is melting away. a transplant would be a great idea, maybe I've had too much coffee;-) Moon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:03:58 EDT From: JPhil78888-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Fwd: Axle work Thanks for the infor on the c-clips. However, the key words here being "shouldn't be too hard." Unfortunately, the yokes and u-joints are rusted (read welded) together. I have made multiple applications of penetraiting oil; tapped and pounded; applied pressure with a vice then a hydraulic jack with no luck. Last night I finally cut the body of the u-joint out. The arms then came out of the cups (with some dust that may have been grease at one time) but the cups are still stuck in the yokes. My next plan is to soak the yoke in kerosine and hit it with a pneumatic hammer tomorrow. Later Jamie Phillips '73 J-4000 Return-Path: Received: from rly-xi05.mx.aol.com (rly-xi05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.10]) by air-xi03.mail.aol.com (v96.8) with ESMTP id MAILINXI32-4eb3f832810358; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:56:02 -0400 Received: from smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.107]) by rly-xi05.mx.aol.com (v96.8) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXI59-4eb3f832810358; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:54:40 -0400 Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.4.60]) by smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #4) id 1A6yqt-0001nO-00 for JPhil78888-at-aol.com; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:54:39 -0400 Received: from 208-58-192-170.s170.tnt1.abrd.md.dialup.rcn.com ([208.58.192.170] helo=apg01.cce-apg.com) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #3) id 1A6yqt-0005YP-00; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:54:39 -0400 Received: by APG01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 16:36:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: James Isennock To: "'JPhil78888-at-aol.com'" , fsj-at-digest.net Subject: RE: Axle work Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 16:36:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-AOL-IP: 207.172.4.107 I believe that what you have are c-clips inside the yoke. They shouldn't be too hard to remove I usually use a small screwdriver and a couple a whacks with a small hammer. Don't worry if they fly across the shop as every new u-joint I ever bought came with replacement c-clips too. James Isennock - -----Original Message----- From: JPhil78888-at-aol.com [mailto:JPhil78888-at-aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 2:58 PM To: fsj-at-digest.net Subject: fsj: Axle work Hi Guys, I have a front axle from a Chevy Blazer that I swapped into my J4000. The axle shaft u-joints at the knuckles do not have visable snap rings holding the u-joints in place. It is my understanding they use "inner" snap rings. In order to replace these u-joints, do you just apply pressure until they pop out? Or is there some other way? Thanks, Jamie Phillips '73 J-4000 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:33:05 -0700 From: Tesar Landon-r16884 Subject: fsj: hub cover Me too, and the screws. - - Landon =============== Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 16:01:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Terry Wayland" Subject: fsj: RE: fsj-digest V1 #2026 I need a hub cover for my 88 if anyone has one. Its the black not red white blue. Thanks, Terry The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 14:47:01 -0700 From: john meister Subject: fsj: new bodies willysoverland had chero body tubs... not sure fif they still do or not... I've got the molds for early '80's J10 stepside fenders... and willysoverland has the beds! john Moontanman-at-aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/7/03 2:20:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net writes: > > > >> > I feel the Admiral's pain. My FSJ went away a couple years ago, and all >> >> >I > > >> > have left is a wheel hub cover. The Admiral has some of those left from >> > the USSGW. We have discussed having another SouthWest Ohio chapter of >> >> >the > > >> > IFSJA festival in the future, but it should take up less space since we >> > can carry all that's left of our babies in a grocery bag. >> > >> > Unlike the Admiral, I didn't sell my FSJ. My wife set it on fire while I >> > was out of town. She says it was an accident. Her (flimsy) evidence is >> > that she was on a freeway bridge during rush hour with 2 of my 3 children >> > on board. I have my doubts... Seems like a lot of work just to get me >> >> >to > > >> > make the car go away. I will have another one of these days! (FSJ, I >> > mean. Unclear on the wife issue at this writing) >> >> >> >Maybe one day soon we will be able to buy a car custom designed for the >person who is buying it. Or more likely someone will start producing wide track >full sized Cherokees in some other country and we can buy a new one and import >it! personally I wish someone would just start producing new bodies for our old >babies. My jeeps drive train is perfect but the body is melting away. a >transplant would be a great idea, maybe I've had too much coffee;-) > >Moon > > > - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:37:37 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: Re: fsj: Axle work A: The clips are either hiding in the dirt towards the center of the yoke (inside around the cap to keep them from sliding out) or you have one of those *stupid* plastic pinned joints (easy to spot those. They need a torch and press to remove) From: JPhil78888-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Axle work Hi Guys, I have a front axle from a Chevy Blazer that I swapped into my J4000. The axle shaft u-joints at the knuckles do not have visable snap rings holding the u-joints in place. It is my understanding they use "inner" snap rings. In order to replace these u-joints, do you just apply pressure until they pop out? Or is there some other way? Thanks, Jamie Phillips '73 J-4000 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:03:19 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: Re: fsj: jeep hub caps A: Ditto on the mega Ebay listings for me too! (soon) I've just about run out of the highpriced stuff to sell (barely made the mortgage this month!) I sent a Unix Admin job to your old addy. (found it on www.careerbuilders.com ) From: john meister Subject: fsj: jeep hub caps excellent link elliott... I've got a couple different sets out in the carport... since I'm looking for a UNIX Sys Admin job again I'll be putting more stuff up on ebay in the next week or so... have two different styles... also an instrument cluster from a '77??? and a few other nice odds and ends... haven't got a lot left, been cleaning out for the last couple of years. :) My son still has those 35x12.5's on six lug alloys out here, he signed up for the air force on monday and is waiting for a school... ttyl, john ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:49:42 -0700 From: john meister Subject: fsj: Re: new bodies well, you'd actually be putting together TWO fsj's that way, or cutting the cherokee behind the doors and mating up the bed... there ya go, both are even widetracks. :) the front fenders could be found elsewhere for the cherokee... or, you could move out of the rust belt and out here to the wet coast, or even down to the land of sunshine insanity and get one that's already assembled and rust free. :) john Moontanman-at-aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/8/03 6:06:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >wagoneers.com-at-comcast.net writes: > > > >>willysoverland had chero body tubs... not sure fif they still do or not... >> >> I've got the molds for early '80's J10 stepside fenders... and >> willysoverland has >> the beds! >> >> john >> >> >How do we put all that together to get a new Cherokee? > >Moon > > > - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:56:24 -0700 From: john meister Subject: fsj: Re: new bodies ur kidding, right? ever heard of the pacific ocean? ;) (the server or network to my server is down right now... check this link out later: http://www.wagoneers.com/FOTOS/2003/Oct-4-OlympicPeninsula/ALL-photos.html john Moontanman-at-aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/8/03 11:51:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >wagoneers.com-at-comcast.net writes: > > > >>down to the land of sunshine insanity and get one that's already >> assembled and >> rust free. :) >> >> >Hmmm, that works for me but how would I surf fish? > >Moon > > > - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:48:27 -0700 From: Tesar Landon-r16884 Subject: fsj: FW: '70 Jeep Pickup Thanks, Darlene, I am embarrassed.. - - Landon - -----Original Message----- From: Darlene Clayton [mailto:dmc_pj-at-hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:03 PM To: Tesar Landon-r16884 Subject: Re: '70 Jeep Pickup Landon, Yes we have a jeep for sale. It has 44,700 mile on it, all orginal. I tried to look up the digest to see what it said, no luck. The server must be down. I am not sure what information you have or need. Please forward digest information to me if possible. Thanks, DMC >From: Tesar Landon-r16884 >To: "'dmc_pj-at-hotmail.com'" >Subject: '70 Jeep Pickup >Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:28:00 -0700 > >Hi 'D' > >Dan? David? > >Sorry. > >Hi, > >I heard on the FSJ Digest that you may be selling your pickup... Low miles? >and I bet, a good old guy. Can you tell me more about it? and I will copy >the digest. > >- Landon _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 11:42:24 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: fsj: FW: '70 Jeep Pickup fwiw, wagoneers.com was "blown" off the internet last night... our rains have returned (more or less (noting sun "breaks" outside right now) and we had some wind last night... Verizon lost it's line to my server and we went off line until about 10:30pm last night. the digests are stored on line at: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests the pix of the '70 pickup are at: http://wagoneers.com/tmp - 70 jeep .... BTW, don't be embarassed Landon, I purposely hid her name for security reasons... :) On first posting I usually try to protect a non-list member's identity or phone numbers... :) We do need to figure out what it's worth for her, low mileage, with some rust... I still think that the Admiral should make an offer since he's FSJ less right now... :) john meister snohomish, washington Tesar Landon-r16884 wrote: >Thanks, Darlene, > >I am embarrassed.. > >- Landon > >-----Original Message----- >From: Darlene Clayton [mailto:dmc_pj-at-hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:03 PM >To: Tesar Landon-r16884 >Subject: Re: '70 Jeep Pickup > > >Landon, > >Yes we have a jeep for sale. It has 44,700 mile on it, all orginal. I tried >to look up the digest to see what it said, no luck. The server must be down. >I am not sure what information you have or need. Please forward digest >information to me if possible. Thanks, DMC > > > >>From: Tesar Landon-r16884 >>To: "'dmc_pj-at-hotmail.com'" >>Subject: '70 Jeep Pickup >>Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:28:00 -0700 >> >>Hi 'D' >> >>Dan? David? >> >>Sorry. >> >>Hi, >> >>I heard on the FSJ Digest that you may be selling your pickup... Low miles? >>and I bet, a good old guy. Can you tell me more about it? and I will copy >>the digest. >> >>- Landon >> >> - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:38:37 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: fsj: Jeep repair CDrom I just posted the brand new Chilton's CD-rom repair on Ebay (soon to post more stuff) It covers many Chryco vehicles as well. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2436821974 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:33:58 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: fsj: going after yet another Jeep pickup! My son needs something to drive, and I found this one (I'll put the TH400 from my '73 J4000 into it after it's fixed) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2436969706&ssPa geName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73 J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck (it's alive!!), '83 Eagle wagon (soon to be modified!)http://www.virtualjeep.com ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2028 **************************