From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Jul 10 21:14:03 2004 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, July 11 2004 Volume 01 : Number 2185 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: FW: Liberty Diesel RE: fsj: FW: Liberty Diesel fsj: Torque Converter Bolts??? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:03:30 -0500 From: Jeep Nut Subject: Re: fsj: FW: Liberty Diesel I can't believe they've got the nerve to call that thing a Mid Size SUV. What a laugh. It's a Small if not Compact SUV according to JeepNut's Dad's 72 Delta88 Scale of Car Sizes. I would call a Grand Wag a Mid Size SUV! LOL Jeep never really built a "full size" truck if you're comparing to a Dodge/Ford/Chevy scale regarding "full size" trucks. Tesar Landon-r16884 wrote: >Thought you might like this exchange with 'the guide' at about.trucks.com. Ha. Apparently, if Jeep says it's a first, then it's ok to do zero research about their claims. And then, it's ok to defend their marginal marketing. And it's ok to profess yourself as an expert until confronted with reality. And probably afterwards, as well. > >- Landon > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kim Tesar [mailto:ktesar-at-austin.rr.com] >Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:31 PM >To: Landon Tesar >Subject: FW: Liberty Diesel > > > >---------- >From: Dale Wickell - About Trucks >Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:08:37 -0400 >To: Kim Tesar >Subject: Re: Liberty Diesel > >That vehicle was categorized as a "special purpose vehicle" and the new one >as a "multipurpose vehicle" (for EPA). I believe the older Cherokee/Wagoneer >with a turbo diesel was considered a full size SUV. In any case, they appear >to be getting around this with a size classification. > >Here's what it says on Jeep's public site: > >"As the first diesel-powered, mid-size SUV available in North America, >Liberty CRD is blazing a new trail so you can go further off road between >fill-ups." > >Dale > > > > > > >>From: Kim Tesar >>Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 01:39:56 -0500 >>To: >>Subject: Liberty Diesel >> >>Hi Dale, >> >>I got this quote on trucks.about.com, I'm surprised about the claim of the >>diesel engine as a first, as Jeep sold a turbodiesel Cherokee in the >>mid-80s. Am I reading this properly? >> >> >>"Jeep Liberty enthusiasts can watch for some new features for the 2005 model >>year: >> >> >>* A freshened-up exterior >>* Tweaks to the interior >>* More rugged appearance for the Jeep Liberty Renegade >>* A diesel engine, a U.S. first for a mid-sized SUV" >> >>- Landon >> >> > > > - -- "Microsoft Certified Professionals are to the computing industry what McDonalds Certified Food Specialists are to gourmet restaurants." -Michael Bacarella 00Mar15 - ---------------------------------------------------------- '87 Street Comanche #24/100 '88 Grand Wagoneer ...and they say there's only one... '92 Cherokee Laredo - ---------------------------------------------------------- Registered Linux user #287453 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 06:42:43 -0700 From: Tesar Landon-r16884 Subject: RE: fsj: FW: Liberty Diesel Exactly my impression - man, this thing is dinky! - - L - -----Original Message----- From: Jeep Nut [mailto:jeepnut-at-bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:04 PM To: Tesar Landon-r16884; FSJ List Subject: Re: fsj: FW: Liberty Diesel I can't believe they've got the nerve to call that thing a Mid Size SUV. What a laugh. It's a Small if not Compact SUV according to JeepNut's Dad's 72 Delta88 Scale of Car Sizes. I would call a Grand Wag a Mid Size SUV! LOL Jeep never really built a "full size" truck if you're comparing to a Dodge/Ford/Chevy scale regarding "full size" trucks. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 20:45:35 -0500 From: Subject: fsj: Torque Converter Bolts??? Does anyone know the size of the torque converter bolts for a '82 Waggy w/ a 360 and a TF727? If I can just finding a matching thread size, is there anything else special about them? I'm reassembling a waggy that I bought and it's missing these bolts so I'm going to run out in the morning and try to find replacements... My list for tomorrow: Put gas tank back in Put tranny/transfercase in Install driveshafts Put carb back in Reinstall starter and wire it and new sylenoid Paint the new floorboards and reistall seats Reinstall rear window Find all rear brake hardware and redo the brakes Man, it's going to be a busy day!!! Thanks, Jeremy Kee http://www.jeepinrocks.com or http://www.iowa4wd.com - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2185 **************************