From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Aug 22 07:09:55 2004 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, August 22 2004 Volume 01 : Number 2223 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: new off road park fsj: the "H" word fsj: Re: new off road park fsj: Howell Engine Developments Products : Dimension Off Road : Moab 4 Wheel Drive Parts fsj: AMC 360 / '91 GrandWagoneer fsj: j-truck cabs Re: fsj: AMC 360 / '91 GrandWagoneer Re: fsj: j-truck cabs Re: fsj: the "H" word Re: fsj: AMC/Rambler show and swap meet Sat 8/21 in Everett, WA Re: fsj: j-truck cabs Re: fsj: the "H" word Re: fsj: j-truck cabs Re: fsj: the "H" word - was... now another swap story... Re: fsj: j-truck cabs FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 00:22:25 -0500 From: Jeep Nut Subject: fsj: new off road park I'm just so glad to see somebody OPENing a place to play, I'm just giddy. I can't wait to get my truck put back together.... probably a couple of more months before I can get to check it out. If you're in Central/West TN, NorthEast MS, or SouthWest KY, 143offroad.com If you're in South MS, SouthWest AL or SouthEast LA, redcreekoffroad.com Pardon my French, but if you look at the ...ahem, Hummer Happenings link, you can kinda see what it looks like down at the redcreek facility. The other place between Jackson and Nashville, TN just opened and is still under development. But is open Sat/Sun 9-6 at $25/truck/day. No tires +36". I just saw the sign for it on the way home from Knoxville today and stopped by to get some info. I couldn't really check it out as it was POUNDing down rain across most all of Tennessee today (AMHIK) and I doubt that Enterprise would have understood me rolling in the Trailblazer caked in muck from one end to the other.... just a 2x, I guess I couldn't have gotten it TOO dirty anyway, LOL... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 01:46:10 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: fsj: the "H" word Oh, speaking of the "H" word, if you haven't already seen it, you guys gotta check this out. Be sure to read the story. http://host1.cj-8.com/index.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Man must cease attributing his problems to his environment, and learn again to exercise his will - his personal responsibility in the realm of faith and morals. -- Albert Schweitzer - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 07:18:27 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: new off road park if you happen to go to 143 offroad, please drop us a trail report. might be interested in coming down from louisville to check it out. great to hear new parks are opening up! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeep Nut" To: "FSJ List" Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 1:22 AM Subject: fsj: new off road park > I'm just so glad to see somebody OPENing a place to play, I'm just giddy. > I can't wait to get my truck put back together.... probably a couple of > more months before I can get to check it out. > If you're in Central/West TN, NorthEast MS, or SouthWest KY, > 143offroad.com > If you're in South MS, SouthWest AL or SouthEast LA, redcreekoffroad.com > Pardon my French, but if you look at the ...ahem, Hummer Happenings > link, you can kinda see what it looks like down at the redcreek facility. > The other place between Jackson and Nashville, TN just opened and is > still under development. But is open Sat/Sun 9-6 at $25/truck/day. No > tires +36". > I just saw the sign for it on the way home from Knoxville today and > stopped by to get some info. I couldn't really check it out as it was > POUNDing down rain across most all of Tennessee today (AMHIK) and I > doubt that Enterprise would have understood me rolling in the > Trailblazer caked in muck from one end to the other.... just a 2x, I > guess I couldn't have gotten it TOO dirty anyway, LOL... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:40:13 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: Howell Engine Developments Products : Dimension Off Road : Moab 4 Wheel Drive Parts http://www.dimensionoffroad.com/products/howell.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:06:46 -0400 From: Tim Allen Subject: fsj: AMC 360 / '91 GrandWagoneer I was recently driving on the highway when I smelled burning plastic, I pulled over and found that part of my air-pump system (the diverter) had melted. I replaced the check valves. Also I have no power above about 50 Mph. I suspect that the check valves were not working for some time and that recently the catalytic plugged raising exhaust pressure high enough to send hot exhaust gasses into my air pump system. Anybody agree, disagree? I don't wanna pull it (I hate exhaust work) if it's okay! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 18:51:08 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: j-truck cabs hey, all- does anyone know if there are any differences i should be worried about with regard to body parts between '76 and '79 model j-truck cabs? i think i may have found a cab from a '79 model to use in place of my '76 cab (less the front clip). any insight would be appreciated. thanks! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:19:44 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: fsj: AMC 360 / '91 GrandWagoneer if you have a top speed of 50mph it does indeed sound like a clogged cat... and that could explain the melted diverter... as a temporary measure drop the converter at the flange and ram a rod up there until it breaks through so the engine can breath, then order a high flow cat from JC Whitney, around $100 or so... john Tim Allen wrote: > I was recently driving on the highway when I smelled burning plastic, I > pulled over and found that part of my air-pump system (the diverter) had > melted. I replaced the check valves. Also I have no power above about 50 > Mph. I suspect that the check valves were not working for some time and > that recently the catalytic plugged raising exhaust pressure high enough > to send hot exhaust gasses into my air pump system. Anybody agree, > disagree? I don't wanna pull it (I hate exhaust work) if it's okay! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:25:05 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: fsj: j-truck cabs shouldn't be a problem... the frame changes occurred in '76 and then again in about '81, but even then the cab mounts should be pretty close from prior and later years... john Neal Hoover wrote: > hey, all- > > does anyone know if there are any differences i should be worried about with > regard to body parts between '76 and '79 model j-truck cabs? i think i may > have found a cab from a '79 model to use in place of my '76 cab (less the > front clip). > any insight would be appreciated. > thanks! > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 > Project '96 XJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:35:25 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: fsj: the "H" word very interesting... :) they guy with the H should invest a few more bucks and get a high lift jack so he could unstump hisself... ;) $50000 for your Hummer H2 $300 for your custom H2 license plate $450 to fill up your H2 with GAS -at- $1.89/gal & 9 mpg Pictures of your Hummer H2 on the internet being rescued by a 20 year old Jeep from a 12" stump in a parking lot beside a port-a-jon for all the internet to see $PRICELESS$ OH, BTW, I just weighed by new Hydraulic Dump Bed J10 pickup trailer... ouch. 1,990 lbs... empty... the frame on this thing is way overkill for what I'm going to use it for... I have to go with the 6.2L Diesel in my J10 just to be able to pull this thing... Maybe in a few years I'll find some aluminum alloy stock and a tig welder and reduce about 500lbs off of this thing... ;) otherwise it tows real nice, brakes work great... super design... just wish we'd used a little lighter metal stock... ;) john Dan Black wrote: > Oh, speaking of the "H" word, if you haven't already seen it, you guys > gotta check this out. Be sure to read the story. > > http://host1.cj-8.com/index.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Man must cease attributing his problems to his environment, > and learn again to exercise his will - his personal responsibility > in the realm of faith and morals. > -- Albert Schweitzer > -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:44:46 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: fsj: AMC/Rambler show and swap meet Sat 8/21 in Everett, WA drove by it this morning... would guess around 40 cars, some nice looking ones... took a few pictures... no one noticed my '87 xj with the '75 J10 dump trailer... john Jim Blair wrote: > AMC/Rambler show and swapmeet Sat 8/21 at Everett Mall parking lot $15 to > show, but free to the public. Open at 8AM for info phone Bob 360-657-7282, > John (who I work with at NAPA), 206-243-5403, or Ron 425-743-0353 > > > I'm going to try to get there early (taking my AMC built '87 Comanche, but not > going to show it) and then go sign our refinance papers nearby. (My son will > be cleaning the yard and working on his '83 Cherokee monster truck) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:02:39 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: j-truck cabs thanks, john. i guess all body lines should meet up? curiously, tho, what frame changes occured in '76? was it just the rear suspension mounts? Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john meister" To: "Neal Hoover" Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 7:25 PM Subject: Re: fsj: j-truck cabs > shouldn't be a problem... the frame changes occurred in '76 and then again > in about '81, but even then the cab mounts should be pretty close from prior > and later years... > > john > > Neal Hoover wrote: > > hey, all- > > > > does anyone know if there are any differences i should be worried about with > > regard to body parts between '76 and '79 model j-truck cabs? i think i may > > have found a cab from a '79 model to use in place of my '76 cab (less the > > front clip). > > any insight would be appreciated. > > thanks! > > > > Neal A. Hoover > > Project '76 J-10 > > Project '96 XJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:05:05 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: the "H" word kewl! no problem on the weight, john. i routinely tow anywhere from 5500 - 6500 lbs with my XJ on a daily basis. wouldn't see where towing a lighter load with a j-truck with a 6.2L diesel would be any problem at all. Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john meister" To: "Dan Black" Cc: "Full Size Jeeps" ; "'dbl'" ; "xj" Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: Re: fsj: the "H" word > very interesting... :) they guy with the H should invest a few more bucks > and get a high lift jack so he could unstump hisself... ;) > > $50000 for your Hummer H2 > $300 for your custom H2 license plate > $450 to fill up your H2 with GAS -at- $1.89/gal & 9 mpg > > Pictures of your Hummer H2 on the internet being rescued by a 20 year old Jeep from a > 12" stump in a parking lot beside a port-a-jon for all the internet to see > > $PRICELESS$ > > > OH, BTW, I just weighed by new Hydraulic Dump Bed J10 pickup trailer... > ouch. > 1,990 lbs... empty... the frame on this thing is way overkill for what > I'm going to use it for... I have to go with the 6.2L Diesel in my J10 > just to be able to pull this thing... Maybe in a few years I'll find > some aluminum alloy stock and a tig welder and reduce about 500lbs off > of this thing... ;) otherwise it tows real nice, brakes work great... > super design... just wish we'd used a little lighter metal stock... ;) > > john > > > > Dan Black wrote: > > Oh, speaking of the "H" word, if you haven't already seen it, you guys > > gotta check this out. Be sure to read the story. > > > > http://host1.cj-8.com/index.html > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > Man must cease attributing his problems to his environment, > > and learn again to exercise his will - his personal responsibility > > in the realm of faith and morals. > > -- Albert Schweitzer > > -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:14:52 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: fsj: j-truck cabs there were some changes in the width and such... I have it documented for the book... just forgot the details... and where I put it... :) Maybe once I get settled into a normal day job I might have the time to start back on the book. :) john Neal Hoover wrote: > thanks, john. > i guess all body lines should meet up? > curiously, tho, what frame changes occured in '76? was it just the rear > suspension mounts? > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 > Project '96 XJ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john meister" > To: "Neal Hoover" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 7:25 PM > Subject: Re: fsj: j-truck cabs > > > >>shouldn't be a problem... the frame changes occurred in '76 and then again >>in about '81, but even then the cab mounts should be pretty close from > > prior > >>and later years... >> >>john >> >>Neal Hoover wrote: >> >>>hey, all- >>> >>>does anyone know if there are any differences i should be worried about > > with > >>>regard to body parts between '76 and '79 model j-truck cabs? i think i > > may > >>>have found a cab from a '79 model to use in place of my '76 cab (less > > the > >>>front clip). >>>any insight would be appreciated. >>>thanks! >>> >>>Neal A. Hoover >>>Project '76 J-10 >>>Project '96 XJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:27:28 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: fsj: the "H" word - was... now another swap story... my XJ has over 251,000 miles on it, and oversize tires with 3.55 gears... it's not really happy about my new toy. :) I'm sure the 6.2L won't give a rip if I tow my entire fleet behind me. I towed a uhaul back from South Dakota with my '83 Jimmy in '94 and hardly noticed it back there... looks like I'll be running the Jimmy down to the monster garage next weekend... got my eye on that '81 300sd down there... part of the swap/parts bartering will end me up with a Willys Wagon or Pickup I hope... this whole superdawg project has taken a major turn for the bizarre. :) I'll take the '83 Jimmy down to Centralia, then either ride back with curtis towing a Cadillac that I'll dismantle for him, or I'll drive the 300SD if I win it on ebay... then if curtis comes up we'll head over and get my '79 J10 Golden Eagle and he'll run that down to the monster garage... we need the front axle to mate up to the GMC driveline... Then we'll take the 4.0L driveline and drop it into the '79 J10 Golden Eagle... unless my friend at work buys it for his '59 Willys project... Then I'll take the GMC Jimmy body and bring it to my friend where I got the J10 GE and give it to him where he'll drop the driveline out of a gas 'Burb that has a useless body... and I'll get one of his Willys Wagons or Pickups... I figure that we'll never really build another running vehicle again, neither curtis or me or my other Jeep buddy tom... tom and I have been swapping parts and Jeeps since about 1986... he's still got three of my old Jeeps in his field... :) I do hope to get SuperDawg together though... and a nice Turbo Diesel Willys would be pretty cool too... I'll be doing that one up here though... need to let Curtis get to Rocky and Rambo after SuperDawg is done. :) it's a wild, crazy and strange world up here in the pacific northwest... :) BTW, after towing that 1,990 lb trailer all over Seattle today it sure was nice to get in Shadowfox and drive around... :) Went looking for a new coffeemaker/ espresso machine... I should have just bought one and brought it home... no, I had to get my wive involved... :) of course she did say I ain't putting some ugly looking appliance in "her" kitchen... I left my laptop in the kitchen and she pulled my "in-n-out" and FSJ stickers off the back of it... :) Neal Hoover wrote: > kewl! > no problem on the weight, john. i routinely tow anywhere from 5500 - 6500 > lbs with my XJ on a daily basis. wouldn't see where towing a lighter load > with a j-truck with a 6.2L diesel would be any problem at all. > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 >>> >>> http://host1.cj-8.com/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 07:02:48 -0700 (PDT) From: elliott sydnam Subject: Re: fsj: j-truck cabs The difference betwee the '76 and later cab will be the size of the hole in the mount for the bushing. The '76 will be 1 1/4" and the '79 is 1 1/2". Earlier Kaiser trucks used a mount that had a hole size of 3/8", and were mounted 3/8" above the frame - -vs- 1/2" below the frame on a '79, foward to rear centers were also different being ~41 1/8" -vs- 44 1/2 on a '79. > >>Neal Hoover wrote: > >> > >>>hey, all- > >>> > >>>does anyone know if there are any differences i > should be worried about > > > > with > > > >>>regard to body parts between '76 and '79 model > j-truck cabs? i think i > > > > may > > > >>>have found a cab from a '79 model to use in place > of my '76 cab (less > > > > the > > > >>>front clip). > >>>any insight would be appreciated. > >>>thanks! > >>> > >>>Neal A. Hoover > >>>Project '76 J-10 > >>>Project '96 XJ > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2223 **************************