From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Oct 26 10:30:55 2004 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, October 26 2004 Volume 01 : Number 2286 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: RE: [WJ-Grand] a Diesel is coming, a Diesel... Re: fsj: What to take? Re: fsj: What to take? Re: fsj: What to take? RE: fsj: Engine removal - 89 GW - done deal, now we're looking for a block RE: fsj: Engine removal - 89 GW - done deal, now we're looking for a block RE: fsj: Engine removal - 89 GW - done deal, now we're looking fo r a block fsj: SNORT4x4 forum - th400/QT $100 FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:47:11 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: RE: [WJ-Grand] a Diesel is coming, a Diesel... On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Simon Worby wrote: >-->John wrote: >-->> The 2.5L, OM 602 is a high pressure system. It is a modern indirect injection Diesel. >-->> You will need higher pressure with a Direct Injection system of course. And also with the >-->> CRD as well. But this system is different than that of say an OM617A used until about 1986. >-->> If you've got specs on the pressures I'd love to see them. All I know is when I order parts, >-->> read the manual and look at the warnings on the car, it says it's a high pressure system, my >-->> older Diesels don't say that, but I know they're high pressure. You don't want to have >-->> your hand anywhere near those lines when running, especially if there is a leak. :) >--> >-->"The 2.8-liter diesel uses an advanced common rail direct injection fuel system. Direct injection of fuel into an open combustion chamber is more efficient than a pre-chamber indirect injection configuration. The system in the 2.8-liter CRD operates at fuel pressures nearly 70 percent above the older distributor pump systems, producing finer atomization, leaner combustion and higher power. At the same time, direct injection provides inherently lower engine-out hydrocarbon exhaust emissions and lower NOx emissions. A high pressure pump driven by the cog belt from the camshaft supplies fuel at up to nearly 24,000 psi. The pump's electronic control system responds to fuel demand and delivers the optimal fuel pressure, injection timing and injection duration." >--> >-->http://jeephorizons.com/news/2005kjspecs.html >--> >-->24,000 psi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok, by those specs mine is not a high pressure system. :) That is GREAT information, thanx! Any other info on that 2.8L CRD would be interesting and useful. As far as the 320's, not sure if the gas version is a turbo or not. Gas engines are way more complex to setup with turbos, while Diesels love them and don't need a lot to be happy. thanx for the info, john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:41:06 -0700 From: Kevin Pekarek Subject: Re: fsj: What to take? On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 10:05:54PM -0700, john wrote: > up here we use this thing called a tractor... > well, sometimes... :) Hm. Down here, we use tractors for when you get REALLY stuck. Other than that, you use your truck/jeep/whatever. Supposedly in the south they use them for chicken races and driving to the bar when the SWMBO hides your keys. K - -- Kevin Pekarek Redwood City, CA (near San Francisco) and Los Osos, CA (near San Luis Obispo) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:40:05 -0500 From: JeepNut Subject: Re: fsj: What to take? heh, heh, heh and after all this advice, I had to think of one of the most important things myself.... a roll or toilet paper. LOL... I came to realize tonight that my grandkids have led a sheltered life. After I told the 11 year old to go downstairs and grab a roll of toilet paper for the truck box, he queries, "Toilet paper?! Why?" "Well we're gonna be a 30-40 minute trip from anything remotely resembling indoor plumbing, so if you have to use the bathroom out there you just might need some".... He had a few comments, but then later in the night he announces to the 14yr old, with an air of disgust in his voice...."Yeah Andrew and you might want to tell your friend that Papaw thinks we're gonna take a dookie in the woods!" "How gross!" "I'll just wait until we get home, I'm not doing that." ROFLMAO.... Sure, kid, make sure you tell your friend... LOL...I'm sure it'll be the hot topic in homeroom... - -- "Microsoft Certified Professionals are to the computing industry what McDonalds Certified Food Specialists are to gourmet restaurants." -Michael Bacarella 00Mar15 - ---------------------------------------------------------- '87 Street Comanche #24/100 '88 Grand Wagoneer ...and they say there's only one... '92 Cherokee Laredo - ---------------------------------------------------------- Registered Linux user #287453 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:42:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: What to take? now that is funny... :) john On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, JeepNut wrote: >-->heh, heh, heh and after all this advice, I had to think of one of the >-->most important things myself.... a roll or toilet paper. LOL... >--> >-->I came to realize tonight that my grandkids have led a sheltered life. >-->After I told the 11 year old to go downstairs and grab a roll of toilet >-->paper for the truck box, he queries, "Toilet paper?! Why?" >-->"Well we're gonna be a 30-40 minute trip from anything remotely >-->resembling indoor plumbing, so if you have to use the bathroom out >-->there you just might need some".... >-->He had a few comments, but then later in the night he announces to the >-->14yr old, with an air of disgust in his voice...."Yeah Andrew and you >-->might want to tell your friend that Papaw thinks we're gonna take a >-->dookie in the woods!" >-->"How gross!" >-->"I'll just wait until we get home, I'm not doing that." >-->ROFLMAO.... >-->Sure, kid, make sure you tell your friend... LOL...I'm sure it'll be the >-->hot topic in homeroom... >--> >-->-- >-->"Microsoft Certified Professionals are to the computing >-->industry what McDonalds Certified Food Specialists are to >-->gourmet restaurants." -Michael Bacarella 00Mar15 >-->---------------------------------------------------------- >-->'87 Street Comanche #24/100 >-->'88 Grand Wagoneer ...and they say there's only one... >-->'92 Cherokee Laredo >-->---------------------------------------------------------- >-->Registered Linux user #287453 >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:40:25 -0500 From: "Michael & Carmen Keith" Subject: RE: fsj: Engine removal - 89 GW - done deal, now we're looking for a block I've located a core ($125 for a long block). However, the place that has it can only tell me that it's an AMC 360. They can't tell me what it came out of nor can they tell me its model year. Are there any differences among AMC 360 blocks that I should be cautious of, especially with regard to the bracket used for this truck's later model rotary style A/C compressor? Thanks, Michael Keith Houston, TX ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:14:17 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Engine removal - 89 GW - done deal, now we're looking for a block I can't think of any off the top of my head... Why don't you take this opportunity to get a more modern and fuel efficient engine in there? or even a 258... just a thought... john On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Michael & Carmen Keith wrote: >-->I've located a core ($125 for a long block). However, the place that has it >-->can only tell me that it's an AMC 360. They can't tell me what it came out >-->of nor can they tell me its model year. Are there any differences among AMC >-->360 blocks that I should be cautious of, especially with regard to the >-->bracket used for this truck's later model rotary style A/C compressor? >--> >-->Thanks, >--> >-->Michael Keith >-->Houston, TX >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:53:47 -0700 From: Tesar Landon-r16884 Subject: RE: fsj: Engine removal - 89 GW - done deal, now we're looking fo r a block Well, you'd wanna be careful for the spacer on the back of the crankshaft, (.10"?)if it's still there, it is an '80 up motor, the spacer added for the 727 transmission. Geez you could've had my whole Jeep for that ('89 model with the later compressor) (tiMING) Chrysler 360 would fit up... - -----Original Message----- From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:14 AM To: Michael & Carmen Keith Cc: fsj-digest-at-digest.net; Tesar Landon-r16884; carnuck1-at-msn.com; proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net Subject: RE: fsj: Engine removal - 89 GW - done deal, now we're looking for a block I can't think of any off the top of my head... Why don't you take this opportunity to get a more modern and fuel efficient engine in there? or even a 258... just a thought... john On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Michael & Carmen Keith wrote: >-->I've located a core ($125 for a long block). However, the place that has it >-->can only tell me that it's an AMC 360. They can't tell me what it came out >-->of nor can they tell me its model year. Are there any differences among AMC >-->360 blocks that I should be cautious of, especially with regard to the >-->bracket used for this truck's later model rotary style A/C compressor? >--> >-->Thanks, >--> >-->Michael Keith >-->Houston, TX >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:35:30 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: SNORT4x4 forum - th400/QT $100 In Graham, WA (not mine!) http://www.snort4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14333 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2286 **************************