From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Dec 5 18:53:24 2004 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, December 6 2004 Volume 01 : Number 2318 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: Diesel MJ update (fwd) fsj: [Fwd: Re: Rush me Amsoil Lubricants] fsj: RE: Rush me Amsoil Lubricants (fwd) fsj: Re: speedometer gear fsj: digests restored! thanx! fsj: Re: digests restored! thanx! fsj: if we only had space... :) fsj: why Jeeps don't rust here... fsj: 1st tank... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 13:07:48 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Diesel MJ update (fwd) From: "Vee Dubb" Subject: Diesel MJ update I figured I'd give an update for those interested. For those who don't yet know what I'm doing, here's a quick catch-up: 1988 MJ pioneer 4x2 shortbox, was 4cyl-5sp. 1984 Mercedes Benz 300SD (om617 3.0l 5cyl TD) and auto tranny. I have gutted the engine bay, all except the original wiring harness. I still need to separate the lighting wires from the now un- necessary engine harness. I'm sure it will be easier than I think, I just haven't started on it. Original steering has been deleted, less the column, shaft, and spindles. In it's place is an 80's ford mustang rack and pinion. Not only is it the right size, the ends fit the spindles and has enough travel to turn lock-to-lock. It is fitted to a custom cross- member. All belt-driven mb accessories are being retained (alt, a/c comp, ps). Still having problems with the stabilizer bar. Stupid ball joint on one end. Thinking of replacing with the stabilizer from the rear of a 80's camaro. Both ends with rubber grommets/steel insert. With the custom mount brackets, and factory mb rubber mounts, the engine has 1" clearance from hood to timing chain hump in valve cover, and about about four inches from pan to front axle. I want about two inches lift in the front, for several reasons. I need to do it as cheaply as possible. I'm thinking either a spacer or new springs. Maybe the 4.0l cherokee springs will stand taller. I only need another inch, but would prefer two. I have the engine and tranny out right now (finishing up some welding in engine bay, replacing seals on engine while it's out) and will try to take some pics. Still need to fab a driveshaft so I can test drive the jeep. Once I know that everything is working to my satisfaction, I will have a shaft made and balanced. Need to locate a jeep auto-trans shifter setup. Oh, anyone know off hand if the pedal cluster can be swapped between the auto and standard tranny trucks? Haven't looked myself yet. - -Steven - -------------------------------------- fwiw, pedal cluster swap shouldn't be a problem... john ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 14:14:38 -0800 From: john meister Subject: fsj: [Fwd: Re: Rush me Amsoil Lubricants] I'm not sure but this sounded a bit like a scam to me... we'll see, I sent this quote but it doesn't make sense to spend this much to use amsoil... the citibank visa or telegraph transfer sounds fishy to me... How does one receive payment from international buyers without getting ripped off? One of the guys on a Jeep list working at an international importer got an order like this from either singapore or malaysia for a bunch of winches and got stiffed because it was a stolen credit card. john - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Rush me Amsoil Lubricants Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 14:04:59 -0800 From: john meister Reply-To: john-at-wagoneers.com To: someone at singnet.com.sg> Greetings, I looked at both ground and air shipping. While I love Amsoil lubricants and think they're the best. I personally do not believe that this is a good value for you. Even if I sold this at cost, shipped as cheaply as possible and didn't charge for my time to get this to you, it's still going to cost you well over $300. IF SHIPPED GROUND: group 8 for parcel post (limit 66 lbs!) 70 lb rate to zone 8 SURFACE - $106.10 Total if shipped surface: $375.39 ==================================== IF SHIPPED AIR: Airmail Parcel Post: $282.25 http://pe.usps.gov/text/pub51/51tblc.html#_Toc498745158 total airmail: $551.54 ==================================== If you were to compare 25,000 miles of use with Amsoil, versus $20 oil changes at 3,000 miles, you'd have roughly 8 regular changes for a total of $160. Even using a local synthetic (can you get Mobil1 there?) you'd spend 5x$5 or $25 per change x8 or $200. Either way you'll save over twice that amount over buying AMSOIL. I don't have a lot of free time so $45 isn't an incentive for me at all. I recommend that you just buy whatever you can there, just change it more often. :) There is also the other issue of how we will make payment. I am acutely aware of credit card fraud from some of your countrymen. I will not accept payment by any means that are not 100% secure and without risk. I'm not sure what those means are at this point, and have little time to check into it further. So if you decide to do this, which I don't recommend, I would want full payment for this upfront in a secured form. Once payment is received I'll have the product and shipped out to you within 7 business days. It will take me at least 3 business days from the time the funds clear to have the product shipped here, then I'll have to repack and reship as there is a weight limit into Singapare. (I may have underestimated the shipping costs because I will have to break this shipment up into smaller units to meet the limit... ) Over the years I've looked into shipping internationally... it's never, ever worked out. Ever. Shipping costs have always prevented it from working out. As I suspect it will this time. sincerely, john someone in singapore wrote: > I wonder if you could supply the following Amsoil products and quantity to Singapore. > > i) 20 (twenty) bottles x 1 quart of Amsoil SAE 5W-30 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil > ii) 4 (four) bottles x 1 quart of Amsoil Series 2000 (SAE 0W-30) Fully Synthetic Engine Oil > iii) 6 (six) bottles x 1 quart of Amsoil Series 2000 (SAE 75W-90) Synthetic Gear Lube > > Please quote total price payable (inclusive of freight charges by air) and > estimated time of delivery. I could pay by either Citibank Visa or > Telegraphic Transfer. > someone in singapore DETAILS: - ------------- Qty. Product Price ea. Total 1 ASL-01 - SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil - (12) quart bottles $70.20 $70.20 4 ASL-QT - SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil - (1) quart bottle $5.85 $46.80 8 TSO-QT - SERIES 2000 - SAE 0W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil - (1) quart bottle $8.50 $34.00 6 TGR-QT - Series 2000 SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube - (1) quart bottle $9.20 $55.20 shipping to Washington $18.09 Weight: 67 lbs. (use 70lbs for estimate - USPS) $224.29 to my door... Handling, repacking, fuel costs and time to reship: $45.00 Subtotal BEFORE Singapore shipping: $269.29 =================================================== group 8 for parcel post (limit 66 lbs!) 70 lb rate to zone 8 SURFACE - $106.10 IF SHIPPED GROUND: Total if shipped surface: $375.39 ==================================== IF SHIPPED AIR: Airmail Parcel Post: $282.25 http://pe.usps.gov/text/pub51/51tblc.html#_Toc498745158 total airmail: $551.54 ============================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 20:45:44 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: RE: Rush me Amsoil Lubricants (fwd) just heard from singapore... shipping is too much, as expected... also think the guy is legit... just didn't realize how much it would cost to ship that much weight around the world. Appreciate the input on avoiding scams... guess the safest way that I've heard so far is paypal... john - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ....com.sg> Hi John, I really appreciate what u've done for me. I'll just take your recommendation and do with what I could obtain from here. The high shipping charges just don't warrant the purchase. Once again, thank you so much. from singapore... ... =================================================== IF SHIPPED GROUND: group 8 for parcel post (limit 66 lbs!) 70 lb rate to zone 8 SURFACE - $106.10 ==================================== IF SHIPPED AIR: Airmail Parcel Post: $282.25 ============================== ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:38:21 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: Re: speedometer gear A: Count the teeth on your current one in the '88. 3.29 will become your ratio if you go 28.8" tire to 31" tire with 3.54 gears. The gear for a 3.31 rig (the other common ratio till '91) would be close enough to match. On the QT one, it depends what gear you have now. Going to the speedo gear for the next higher ratio (numerically lower) should clear it up. Two Jeeps, both with inaccurate speedometers. The '74 has the BW1339 and oversize tires (31"); it reads 10% slower than actual speed. (This is easy to calculate on the fly, though, so I can live with it if there isn't a cheap, easy solution.) The '88 (with NP229) has 2.72 stock gears, but will soon be 3.54. Several months later (because they cost money), it will also have 31" tires (instead of stock 235/75/15). So, has anybody here actually ever successfully bought a new speedometer gear for these things? If so, where? And how do you know what to get? I called Randy's Ring and Pinion, and they don't touch those at all, but they referred me to Tacoma Speedometer (guess where they're located!). I called, and they said my only option on both those is to have an adapter made, which they can build in about 20min, but cost about $65. Is this accurate? Sounds like an easy enough fix (install a 3" adapter between the transfer case and the existing cable), but a little pricy -- if I do it, I'll want to at least wait for the final configuration (i.e., after I put on the bigger tires). - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Enjoy the little things in life, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things. - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 22:28:30 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: digests restored! thanx! thanx! I got a copy from Curtis a few hours ago too! Restored the directory... thank you both of you. :) john On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, Tacoma White wrote: >--> hope you're not getting a million of these LOL >--> >-->Tacoma ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 22:53:07 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: digests restored! thanx! and they think I'm out of control with my projects? :) john On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, Tacoma White wrote: >--> oh yes! that's the Jeep that got 13mpg avg. I thought I was dividing wrong >-->but no! I'm thinking the oil it was sucking down helped somehow.... every >-->500mi I had to drain the air cleaner... it was filling up the trough but not >-->really soaking the filter... 12-15psi at 75mph.... I was just waiting for it >-->to blow up. That motor is the base for a stupid stroker project I'm going to >-->try, using 400 Chevy pistons and rods on a 401 crank. It may just be way too >-->stupid but we'll see what the math ends up looking like hahahahah >--> >-->Tacoma >--> >-->> >-->> $200 for a trip across the country, not bad... of course >-->> you probably paid a bit more than that in gas... ;) >-->> >-->> john >-->> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 23:35:26 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: if we only had space... :) On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, Tacoma White wrote: >--> hahah it's consolation for not having a huge ranch. My wife says that under >-->no circumstances am I ever allowed to own a barn. I can't imagine why! not a clue... ;) john >--> >-->Tacoma >-->----- >-->> and they think I'm out of control with my projects? :) >-->> john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 02:14:09 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: why Jeeps don't rust here... http://www.wagoneers.com/pages/Seattle-weather.html ---- :) john - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 18:47:26 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: 1st tank... just tanked up the '83 GMC Jimmy... 6.2L Diesel... 18mpg... and that's after towing the 2k trailer with dirt/gravel around... took 27 gallons... dropped $62 on one tank... sheesh... went almost 500 miles, but still, that hurts.. ;) I wonder what this 6.2L would do in an FSJ... :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2318 **************************