fsj-digest Wednesday, January 26 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2348 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: Exhaust manifold Re: fsj: Re: question on AMC V8's Re: fsj: Re: question on AMC V8's fsj: Re: Exhaust manifold fsj: test... fsj: 84 GW all dash gauges quit (except amp) fsj: replacement body bushings Re: fsj: replacement body bushings Re: fsj: 84 GW all dash gauges quit (except amp) RE: fsj: 84 GW all dash gauges quit (except amp) Re: fsj: 84 GW all dash gauges quit (except amp) Re: fsj: 84 GW all dash gauges quit (except amp) Re: fsj: replacement body bushings fsj: Divorce forced sale! 66 wag FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:34:07 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: Exhaust manifold dunno about the warping, but why would you have to pull the head to replace the exhaust manifold gasket? (but, then again, judging from the pic, it may be time for new head gaskets anyway.) Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Balog" To: Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 8:59 AM Subject: fsj: Exhaust manifold >> Has anybody had any experience with a warped exhaust manifold on a >> 360? I had the rear passenger bolt on the exhaust manifold shear off >> in the head. Talked to a Jeep master mechanic, and he said that the >> 360 exhaust manifolds were prone to warping, thus the sheared bolt. >> >> Originally, I was just going to leave it (because it's a pain to get >> back there to tap it out in place), but it looks like I'm going to >> have to pull the head on the passenger side to replace the gasket, >> anyway. >> >> Would it be possible (or even advisable) to have the manifold planed >> back into true at a machine shop? Anyone done it before? Possibly just >> better to suck it up and buy a new manifold? >> >> FWIW, here's a pic of the head leak: http://ourmanindc.net/images/jeep/head.JPG >> >> --Chuck >> '91 GW >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/05 >> >> - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/05 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:01:55 -0800 From: john meister Subject: Re: fsj: Re: question on AMC V8's tehabi... ben... I remember that... an interim list server solution... wasn't he down in San Diego? :) yeah, Neal was just yanking my chain... I ask questions sometimes either knowing or have known the answer... like one I posted to the wj list about a brake caliper... I have a hunch it's bad because it's dragging... but who knows what else I may have forgotten. ;) john - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** sent via Thunderbird in SUSE 9.2 Linux - virus/worm free Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brazzadog-at-aol.com wrote: >> John, >> Neal's right, you should have already known where to find the displacement >> numbers on the block. As a matter of fact, you probably told me where to find >> them. But that would have been a few years ago. Can you say "Tehabi"? >> Don't bother actually trying to see the numbers. Just reach under the motor >> mount and trace them with your fingers. They're pretty big and you shouldn't >> have much trouble figureing it out. >> >> Ben >> >> In a message dated 1/24/2005 4:08:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, >> owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net writes: >> > >>>>From: john >>>>On AMC V8's is the displacement stamped on the block? >>>>If so, where? >>>> >>>>We're trying to decide if a V8 a friend has that he said came out of >>>>of a '72 AMX/Javelin is really a 343 or not... since my books show >>>>the 343 only for '69... >>>> >>>>How many times have you heard someone say that this Jeep has a 401 in it? > >> >> ;) >> > >>>>john ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:37:58 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: question on AMC V8's i know. i had to yank yours, too. (hold on, this ain't sounding so good...) ;) i do the same thing on the XJ list all of the time: ask a question you think you know the answer to in hopes that someone has a better answer than i did. but, then again, THE DISPLACEMENT IS CAST INTO THE BLOCK - HOW MUCH SIMPLER IS THAT?!?!?!??!?!??! (yank-yank) Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john meister" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: Re: fsj: Re: question on AMC V8's >> tehabi... ben... I remember that... an interim list server solution... >> wasn't he down in San Diego? :) >> >> yeah, Neal was just yanking my chain... I ask questions sometimes >> either knowing or have known the answer... like one I posted to >> the wj list about a brake caliper... I have a hunch it's bad because >> it's dragging... but who knows what else I may have forgotten. ;) >> >> john >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >> sent via Thunderbird in SUSE 9.2 Linux - virus/worm free >> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Brazzadog-at-aol.com wrote: > >>> > John, >>> > Neal's right, you should have already known where to find the displacement >>> > numbers on the block. As a matter of fact, you probably told me where to find >>> > them. But that would have been a few years ago. Can you say "Tehabi"? >>> > Don't bother actually trying to see the numbers. Just reach under the motor >>> > mount and trace them with your fingers. They're pretty big and you shouldn't >>> > have much trouble figureing it out. >>> > >>> > Ben >>> > >>> > In a message dated 1/24/2005 4:08:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, >>> > owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net writes: >>> > >> >>>> >>From: john >>>> >>On AMC V8's is the displacement stamped on the block? >>>> >>If so, where? >>>> >> >>>> >>We're trying to decide if a V8 a friend has that he said came out of >>>> >>of a '72 AMX/Javelin is really a 343 or not... since my books show >>>> >>the 343 only for '69... >>>> >> >>>> >>How many times have you heard someone say that this Jeep has a 401 in it? >>> > >>> > ;) >>> > >> >>>> >>john > >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/05 >> >> - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/05 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:09:39 EST From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: Exhaust manifold Don't buy a new manifold. You can have it flattened at any machine shop. It's something they do frequently. I've never had a bolt shear off, but I've had plenty work loose and fall out. On each bolt use a lockwasher and a good stout flat washer that won't deform. After the initial tightening, run the engine enough to warm it up and then re-tighten. Continue to do this with progessively longer run times until they stay tight. I usually check them for several months before I'm sure they're gonna stay put. By that time, I'm only checking them every couple of weeks, so it's not as much of pain as it might sound. Ben In a message dated 1/24/2005 5:24:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net writes: >>From: Chuck Balog _chuckbalog-at-gmail.com_ (mailto:chuckbalog-at-gmail.com) >>Has anybody had any experience with a warped exhaust manifold on a >>360? I had the rear passenger bolt on the exhaust manifold shear off >>in the head. Talked to a Jeep master mechanic, and he said that the >>360 exhaust manifolds were prone to warping, thus the sheared bolt. (snip() >>Would it be possible (or even advisable) to have the manifold planed >>back into true at a machine shop? Anyone done it before? Possibly just >>better to suck it up and buy a new manifold? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 02:21:04 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: fsj: test... excuse my test... testing out a potential new home for wagoneers.com... :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 03:24:27 EST From: DRIVEIN59-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: 84 GW all dash gauges quit (except amp) Well, let the Waggy 84 sit for more then 2 months and the fuel, oil, temp gauges don't work. Any ideas? Fuses all good, Constant Volt reg on back of cluster replaced (used one). Were do they get there ground from? Or should I say were is it located? One wire feed all power to them ?? Any help appreciated Thanks inn Advance Dennis Russell Lynnwood WA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:18:57 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: replacement body bushings anybody know of a good source for replacement rubber body mount bushings for my j-truck? i've tried BJs, but they're not listed on his site for my year. i'd rather not use poly bushings, as they will transmit too many vibes. thanks! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/05 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:21:44 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: replacement body bushings I got mine from the dealer... john On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >>-->anybody know of a good source for replacement rubber body mount bushings for >>-->my j-truck? i've tried BJs, but they're not listed on his site for my year. >>-->i'd rather not use poly bushings, as they will transmit too many vibes. >>-->thanks! >>--> >>-->Neal A. Hoover >>-->Project '76 J-10 >>-->Project '96 XJ >>-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >>--> >>--> >>--> >>--> >>-->-- >>-->No virus found in this outgoing message. >>-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>-->Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/05 >>--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:43:49 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: 84 GW all dash gauges quit (except amp) could just be the connector on the back of the cluster... just pulling it off and putting it back on could solve it... spray some amsoil mp, electrical contact cleaner, even wd40 in the connections... all will help to some extent. john On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 DRIVEIN59-at-aol.com wrote: >>-->Well, let the Waggy 84 sit for more then 2 months and the fuel, oil, temp >>-->gauges don't work. >>-->Any ideas? Fuses all good, Constant Volt reg on back of cluster replaced >>-->(used one). >>-->Were do they get there ground from? Or should I say were is it located? >>-->One wire feed all power to them ?? >>-->Any help appreciated >>-->Thanks inn Advance >>-->Dennis Russell >>-->Lynnwood WA >>--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:07:51 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: RE: fsj: 84 GW all dash gauges quit (except amp) Maybe mice got in there? build your truck right the first time! ell, let the Waggy 84 sit for more then 2 months and the fuel, oil, temp gauges don't work. Any ideas? Fuses all good, Constant Volt reg on back of cluster replaced (used one). Were do they get there ground from? Or should I say were is it located? One wire feed all power to them ?? Any help appreciated Thanks inn Advance Dennis Russell Lynnwood ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:03:26 EST From: DRIVEIN59-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: 84 GW all dash gauges quit (except amp) Connector was pulled off pushed back on, nothing. No mice here, build it right the first time?? Never took it apart.LOL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:08:40 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Seevers Subject: Re: fsj: 84 GW all dash gauges quit (except amp) I'm pretty sure there is a crude mechanical voltage regulator somewhere for the thermal gauges (oil pressure, fule, temp). If it fails, these three gauges will also fail. I'm not sure where it is located on an FSJ. On most vehicles they are locaed in a small can attached to the back of the instrument cluster. These crude regulators are a common soure of problems. - -brad - --- DRIVEIN59-at-aol.com wrote: >> Connector was pulled off pushed back on, nothing. >> No mice here, build it right the first time?? Never >> took it apart.LOL All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:34:49 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: replacement body bushings yeah, i got a price from the dealer, but they wanted almost $65 EACH!!!!! maybe i need to check again.... btw, i would assume that i could get a set for a GW or something and just use them on my cab, right? Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Neal Hoover" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: Re: fsj: replacement body bushings >> I got mine from the dealer... >> >> john >> >> On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >> > >>> >-->anybody know of a good source for replacement rubber body mount bushings for >>> >-->my j-truck? i've tried BJs, but they're not listed on his site for my year. >>> >-->i'd rather not use poly bushings, as they will transmit too many vibes. >>> >-->thanks! >>> >--> >>> >-->Neal A. Hoover >>> >-->Project '76 J-10 >>> >-->Project '96 XJ >>> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >>> >--> >>> >--> >>> >--> >>> >--> >>> >-->-- >>> >-->No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> >-->Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/05 >>> >--> > >> >> ---- >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/05 >> >> - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/05 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:40:09 -0800 (PST) From: jeremi smyers Subject: fsj: Divorce forced sale! 66 wag Ok heres the deal. I am getting a divorce and my 66 wagoneer hasnt sold yet so i offer this. 1966 Jeep Wagoneer. No motor. Trans is taken apart. The trans did work fine and is a nailhead bolt pattern Dana 20 transfer case. 4x4 Front bumper guard Rear tire rack mount/duel gas can mount. Good interior with few stains (can probibly get out) Its in great conditition for a 66 and please people stop being so picky. I am selling it for $200 Dollars I have pictures. and just to be upfront when you see the pics you cannot get another one like this for 200 dollars so if you see the pics and still dont know for 200 dollars please dont contact me. Its only missing a motor. Keep that in mind. Thank you and my name is Jeremi My number is 909-561-8972 Solicitors need not call. ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2348 **************************