From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Feb 8 23:45:22 2005 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, February 9 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2358 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: OT: 1986 M6 Re: fsj: Re: popcorn required: willys ideas? Jeep Diesels? :) fsj: Re: fuel economy? fsj: Re: 4x4 swap meet in WA state fsj: Fuel Economy Re: fsj: Fuel Economy fsj: Breaking up after 10 years together Re: fsj: Breaking up after 10 years together Re: fsj: Re: 4x4 swap meet in WA state Re: fsj: Re: 4x4 swap meet in WA state Re: fsj: Fuel Economy fsj: maps fsj: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together fsj: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together fsj: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together fsj: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together fsj: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:32:18 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: fsj: OT: 1986 M6 http://wagoneers.com/tmp/BMW/all-M6.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/BMW/ ...a friend is moving, possibly out of the country... and has decided to sell his M6. He was a driver on the BMW racing team... This car is absolutely perfect in every way. Fully loaded... I'll be listing it on ebay Saturday evening or Sunday... will take detailed pictures and test drive it early Saturday. http://wagoneers.com/tmp/BMW/BMW20050004.jpg Opening without a reserve around $8k. Preliminary research indicates It's worth well over $10k, possibly much more... I'll gather techincal details and more on it's history... it's a very rare car... Any particular items I should photograph in extreme detail? my ebay handle is dieseljohn (don't have anything up there right now...) I'm looking at a 2002 KJ tomorrow with 120,000 miles on it for less than $10k... ;) at 16/20mpg I'm not sure how excited I'll be... but the bargain hunter in me has to look. :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:31:50 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: popcorn required: willys ideas? Jeep Diesels? :) A: 250 is slightly longer stroke and higher compression. (going from memory and we know how good mine is sometimes!) I think 230 was same bore/stroke as 327, and 250 is same bore/stroke as 350. 194 was same bore/stroke as 283. (or was it 265?) what would have made this a 230? I would think it's good news that it's a 250... bigger is usually better... :) john On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 DRIVEIN59-at-aol.com wrote: >-->All the 250 chev 6 engines prior to 74 had separate intakes and exhaust >-->manifolds. >-->The 75 and newer 6 chevs had the IIM EGR one piece design and were very >prone >-->to cracking. Sold a ton of these when I worked at the bone yard. >-->Dennis >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:36:37 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: Re: fuel economy? A: The Montero has a decent track record. With the auto overdrive and a diesel Mitsu motor (same one that Ford Rangers ran with turbo) they get quite decent fuel economy too. I have been sort of looking for one to transplant into the Monty I have now, but will try to get it running again with it's current motor/trans this week (2.6L with 5 speed) John wrote: out of all the SUV's/AWD's... with an automatic... any make, or size... what are the most economical? it does NOT have to be a Jeep. ;) hey, I'd even consider a RAV4 at this point... btw, found a 2002 Liberty for under $10k... but it's rated at 16/20mpg ... looking tomorrow morning... the new CRD Liberty's with the 2.8L Diesel are going to leave the showroom with a price tag of $25k to $31K... :( but not with me... ;) john ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:41:51 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: Re: 4x4 swap meet in WA state Thanks for the heads up! Martin aka maddog wrote: 4x4 Swap meet at the Puyallup Fairgrounds in Puyallup, WA on March 13, 2005 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 09:32:23 -0500 From: Chuck Balog Subject: fsj: Fuel Economy According to http://www.fueleconomy.gov , you've got several options. In the SUV category for 2005, the Ford Escape Hybrid 4WD is your vehicle. 33 city and 29 highway. I drove a regular Escape as a rental a while back, and it was pretty nice. Looks like the Saturn Vue and Subaru Forrester both get close to 30 highway, as well. On a related note, I got to drive GM's v3 Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle the other day. My wife works on energy issues for a Congressman, and GM wanted her to try it out. So, I got to go and drive it, too. That vehicle gets around 250 miles on 4 kilos of H. Currently, H is around $3/kg. So, it's the equivalent of around 40mpg in a gas engine. Two major drawbacks, though. 1) the fuel cell is currently about $250K to manufacture and 2) it only lasts about 5000 hours (100K miles). It produces about 26 kilowatts, though. They equated it as enough electricity to power normal usage in around 10 3000sq ft homes at once. Of course, that could have been what's known as "lobbyist-speak", but I wouldn't know. Main obstacle to overcome is a network of fuel stations, but Shell just announced that it will soon be installing H at some of it's stations. GM's plan is to start on the DC/NY corridor as the end points for filling stations and once those are in place, start extending the line. The goal would be Boston to DC, and then spread from there. Anyway, an interesting topic and a great opportunity. I'll wait to see if they approach me about putting a fuel cell in my '91 GW. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:07:24 CST From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: Fuel Economy Wow, sounds like that has awesome potential. They can hopefully continue to make hydrogen more efficient, and of course the emissions should be fewer and much less harmful. $250K really isn't bad considering the level of production -- once they advance the process more and mass-produce, costs will come way down. And they replace fuel pumps at gas stations every now and then anyway, so hopefully spreading the hydrogen stations won't be too expensive in the long run, either. I guess my main question is: Doesn't it still take enough oil and emissions at the hydrogen processing plant to make it equivalent or worse than gas for vehicles (right now, anyway)? I've heard the argument that the cleanest solution so far is batteries that are charged from nuclear power plants. Obviously, there are problems with those, like storing more power in the batteries, the weight and distribution of the batteries (have to swap them at the station since there's no way right now of charging the whole bank in a few minutes), etc. Face it, we need Mr. Fusion. Chuck Balog said: {- According to http://www.fueleconomy.gov , you've got several options. {- In the SUV category for 2005, the Ford Escape Hybrid 4WD is your {- vehicle. 33 city and 29 highway. I drove a regular Escape as a rental {- a while back, and it was pretty nice. {- {- Looks like the Saturn Vue and Subaru Forrester both get close to 30 {- highway, as well. {- {- On a related note, I got to drive GM's v3 Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle {- the other day. My wife works on energy issues for a Congressman, and {- GM wanted her to try it out. So, I got to go and drive it, too. That {- vehicle gets around 250 miles on 4 kilos of H. Currently, H is around {- $3/kg. So, it's the equivalent of around 40mpg in a gas engine. Two {- major drawbacks, though. 1) the fuel cell is currently about $250K to {- manufacture and 2) it only lasts about 5000 hours (100K miles). It {- produces about 26 kilowatts, though. They equated it as enough {- electricity to power normal usage in around 10 3000sq ft homes at {- once. Of course, that could have been what's known as {- "lobbyist-speak", but I wouldn't know. {- {- Main obstacle to overcome is a network of fuel stations, but Shell {- just announced that it will soon be installing H at some of it's {- stations. GM's plan is to start on the DC/NY corridor as the end {- points for filling stations and once those are in place, start {- extending the line. The goal would be Boston to DC, and then spread {- from there. {- {- Anyway, an interesting topic and a great opportunity. I'll wait to see {- if they approach me about putting a fuel cell in my '91 GW. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Responsibility is the price of freedom. -- Elbert Hubbard - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:52:31 EST From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Breaking up after 10 years together For those of you keeping track of this stuff, I've broken up with my '71 Wagoneer. We had a good 10 years, but finally had to admit that our interests had evolved in different directions and we no longer shared common goals. The Wag has gone to a good Jeep home and that has eased the seperation anxiety. I'm currently captivated by a $500 '78 Cherokee Chief. I hope the next 10 years are as good as the last 10. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer - recently parted company '78 Cherokee Chief - excited about the future, and no more guilt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:06:11 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Breaking up after 10 years together congrats and condolensces, or is that the other way around? ;) john On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 Brazzadog-at-aol.com wrote: >-->For those of you keeping track of this stuff, I've broken up with my '71 >-->Wagoneer. We had a good 10 years, but finally had to admit that our interests >-->had evolved in different directions and we no longer shared common goals. The >-->Wag has gone to a good Jeep home and that has eased the seperation anxiety. >-->I'm currently captivated by a $500 '78 Cherokee Chief. I hope the next 10 >-->years are as good as the last 10. >--> >-->Ben Williams >-->'71 Wagoneer - recently parted company >-->'78 Cherokee Chief - excited about the future, and no more guilt >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:09:42 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: 4x4 swap meet in WA state jim, who is it that runs this? some club down there... they have a website, do you know it? thinking about getting a space and taking the jimmy and trailer down... john On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Jim Blair wrote: >-->4x4 Swap meet at the Puyallup Fairgrounds in Puyallup, WA on March >-->13, 2005 >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:49:45 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: 4x4 swap meet in WA state Here it is! http://www.moonshinersjeepclub.com/swapmeet/swapmeet.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:54:28 -0600 From: JeepNut stepped up to the soapbox and pronounced: Subject: Re: fsj: Fuel Economy I see some very smart folks from time to time promoting nuclear solutions, not only as Dan mentioned, but also for our electricity generation needs in general. And of course they're right about the advantages which are substantial, but they never seem to mention the ever deadly downside. I'll admit to being unable to keep abreast of EVERYTHING that goes on in life. I'm just too busy to Google every topic known to man on a day-by-day basis, so let me ask the $1M question in case something new has been developed.... What do you do with the waste from these plants? This waste that FAR outlives any known method of containment that is environmentally responsible? No offense meant to Dan or anyone else... Its just an academic question because there may be something in the works to deal with it that I'm unaware of... if they've come up with a reasonable answer to the problem, (not put-it-in-a-rocketship-to-Mars solutions) then we've hit the gold mine regarding power generation. For what it's worth, I'm kind of excited about the prospect of the hydrogen fuel options too. Fossil fuel burning is soooo 1970's...LOL... but it didn't occur to me that the generation of the hydrogen cells might consume about as much fossil fuel and create about as many unwanted emissions as running the i/c engines does... it's another really good question... Dan Black wrote: >Wow, sounds like that has awesome potential. They can hopefully >continue to make hydrogen more efficient, and of course the emissions >should be fewer and much less harmful. $250K really isn't bad >considering the level of production -- once they advance the process >more and mass-produce, costs will come way down. And they replace fuel >pumps at gas stations every now and then anyway, so hopefully spreading >the hydrogen stations won't be too expensive in the long run, either. > >I guess my main question is: Doesn't it still take enough oil and >emissions at the hydrogen processing plant to make it equivalent or >worse than gas for vehicles (right now, anyway)? I've heard the >argument that the cleanest solution so far is batteries that are charged >from nuclear power plants. Obviously, there are problems with those, >like storing more power in the batteries, the weight and distribution of >the batteries (have to swap them at the station since there's no way >right now of charging the whole bank in a few minutes), etc. > >Face it, we need Mr. Fusion. > >Chuck Balog said: >{- According to http://www.fueleconomy.gov , you've got several options. >{- In the SUV category for 2005, the Ford Escape Hybrid 4WD is your >{- vehicle. 33 city and 29 highway. I drove a regular Escape as a rental >{- a while back, and it was pretty nice. >{- >{- Looks like the Saturn Vue and Subaru Forrester both get close to 30 >{- highway, as well. >{- >{- On a related note, I got to drive GM's v3 Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle >{- the other day. My wife works on energy issues for a Congressman, and >{- GM wanted her to try it out. So, I got to go and drive it, too. That >{- vehicle gets around 250 miles on 4 kilos of H. Currently, H is around >{- $3/kg. So, it's the equivalent of around 40mpg in a gas engine. Two >{- major drawbacks, though. 1) the fuel cell is currently about $250K to >{- manufacture and 2) it only lasts about 5000 hours (100K miles). It >{- produces about 26 kilowatts, though. They equated it as enough >{- electricity to power normal usage in around 10 3000sq ft homes at >{- once. Of course, that could have been what's known as >{- "lobbyist-speak", but I wouldn't know. >{- >{- Main obstacle to overcome is a network of fuel stations, but Shell >{- just announced that it will soon be installing H at some of it's >{- stations. GM's plan is to start on the DC/NY corridor as the end >{- points for filling stations and once those are in place, start >{- extending the line. The goal would be Boston to DC, and then spread >{- from there. >{- >{- Anyway, an interesting topic and a great opportunity. I'll wait to see >{- if they approach me about putting a fuel cell in my '91 GW. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Responsibility is the price of freedom. > -- Elbert Hubbard >-------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 15:29:50 CST From: Dan Black Subject: fsj: maps Many of you have probably already seen this, but if not: http://maps.google.com/ Pretty nice. Big maps (try maximizing your window), drag the map to pan or double-click on a spot to center it, click on a marker to get a mini-exploded view of it... And try getting directions from one point to another, then in the text directions on the right, click on any line of the directions (or the number next to it) and it will jump to that and show you the mini-exploded view of that connection. Plus virtually no clutter -- ads, etc. Overall, I'd say they have MapQuest beat for the moment. (I've wanted easier ways of getting bigger maps than MapQuest allows basically since they started.) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't accept rides from strange men, and remember: All men are strange. -- Robin Morgan - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:09:56 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together what a bitter sweet ride you're having Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: fsj: Breaking up after 10 years together > For those of you keeping track of this stuff, I've broken up with my '71 > Wagoneer. We had a good 10 years, but finally had to admit that our interests > had evolved in different directions and we no longer shared common goals. The > Wag has gone to a good Jeep home and that has eased the seperation anxiety. > I'm currently captivated by a $500 '78 Cherokee Chief. I hope the next 10 > years are as good as the last 10. > > Ben Williams > '71 Wagoneer - recently parted company > '78 Cherokee Chief - excited about the future, and no more guilt > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/05 > > - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/05 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:13:09 EST From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together Actually, I'm not riding much at all : ) The Cherokee's auto-exhaust-lubing rear main seal would double as barbecue starter. I've got a spare 360 waiting in the wings, but too many other "fires" to put out right now. Ben In a message dated 2/8/2005 8:03:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net writes: what a bitter sweet ride you're having Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: fsj: Breaking up after 10 years together > For those of you keeping track of this stuff, I've broken up with my '71 > Wagoneer. We had a good 10 years, but finally had to admit that our interests > had evolved in different directions and we no longer shared common goals. The > Wag has gone to a good Jeep home and that has eased the seperation anxiety. > I'm currently captivated by a $500 '78 Cherokee Chief. I hope the next 10 > years are as good as the last 10. > > Ben Williams > '71 Wagoneer - recently parted company > '78 Cherokee Chief - excited about the future, and no more guilt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:26:54 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together lol! but would you have it any other way? ;) Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:13 PM Subject: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together > > Actually, I'm not riding much at all : ) The Cherokee's auto-exhaust-lubing > rear main seal would double as barbecue starter. I've got a spare 360 > waiting in the wings, but too many other "fires" to put out right now. > > Ben > > > In a message dated 2/8/2005 8:03:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, > proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net writes: > > what a bitter sweet ride you're having > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 > Project '96 XJ > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:52 PM > Subject: fsj: Breaking up after 10 years together > > > > For those of you keeping track of this stuff, I've broken up with my '71 > > Wagoneer. We had a good 10 years, but finally had to admit that our > interests > > had evolved in different directions and we no longer shared common goals. > The > > Wag has gone to a good Jeep home and that has eased the seperation > anxiety. > > I'm currently captivated by a $500 '78 Cherokee Chief. I hope the next > 10 > > years are as good as the last 10. > > > > Ben Williams > > '71 Wagoneer - recently parted company > > '78 Cherokee Chief - excited about the future, and no more guilt > > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/05 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:40:38 EST From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together Not a chance! I'll miss the reliability of the Wagoneer and I never got tired of looking at it, but I've wanted a nicely optioned Chief ever since they first came out with them. As soon as I find time, I know I'm going to have fun with it. Ben In a message dated 2/8/2005 8:20:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net writes: lol! but would you have it any other way? ;) Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:13 PM Subject: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together > > Actually, I'm not riding much at all : ) The Cherokee's auto-exhaust-lubing > rear main seal would double as barbecue starter. I've got a spare 360 > waiting in the wings, but too many other "fires" to put out right now. > > Ben > > > In a message dated 2/8/2005 8:03:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, > proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net writes: > > what a bitter sweet ride you're having > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 > Project '96 XJ > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:52 PM > Subject: fsj: Breaking up after 10 years together > > > > For those of you keeping track of this stuff, I've broken up with my '71 > > Wagoneer. We had a good 10 years, but finally had to admit that our > interests > > had evolved in different directions and we no longer shared common goals. > The > > Wag has gone to a good Jeep home and that has eased the seperation > anxiety. > > I'm currently captivated by a $500 '78 Cherokee Chief. I hope the next > 10 > > years are as good as the last 10. > > > > Ben Williams > > '71 Wagoneer - recently parted company > > '78 Cherokee Chief - excited about the future, and no more guilt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:48:51 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together i'm sure you will! just take pics, wouldja? ;) Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:40 PM Subject: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together > > Not a chance! > I'll miss the reliability of the Wagoneer and I never got tired of looking > at it, but I've wanted a nicely optioned Chief ever since they first came out > with them. As soon as I find time, I know I'm going to have fun with it. > > Ben > > In a message dated 2/8/2005 8:20:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, > proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net writes: > > lol! > but would you have it any other way? > ;) > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 > Project '96 XJ > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:13 PM > Subject: Re: Breaking up after 10 years together > > > > > > Actually, I'm not riding much at all : ) The Cherokee's > auto-exhaust-lubing > > rear main seal would double as barbecue starter. I've got a spare 360 > > waiting in the wings, but too many other "fires" to put out right now. > > > > Ben > > > > > > In a message dated 2/8/2005 8:03:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net writes: > > > > what a bitter sweet ride you're having > > > > Neal A. Hoover > > Project '76 J-10 > > Project '96 XJ > > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:52 PM > > Subject: fsj: Breaking up after 10 years together > > > > > > > For those of you keeping track of this stuff, I've broken up with my > '71 > > > Wagoneer. We had a good 10 years, but finally had to admit that our > > interests > > > had evolved in different directions and we no longer shared common > goals. > > The > > > Wag has gone to a good Jeep home and that has eased the seperation > > anxiety. > > > I'm currently captivated by a $500 '78 Cherokee Chief. I hope the > next > > 10 > > > years are as good as the last 10. > > > > > > Ben Williams > > > '71 Wagoneer - recently parted company > > > '78 Cherokee Chief - excited about the future, and no more guilt > > > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/05 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2358 **************************