From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Feb 15 02:20:25 2005 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, February 15 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2365 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... fsj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... Re: fsj: Re: hanging caliper Re: fsj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... Re: fsj: Re: hanging caliper Re: fsj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... Re: fsj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... fsj: SNORT4x4 forum - Two full size Jeeps, Make one Great one (not mine) Re: fsj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... fsj: Re: xj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:50:52 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: fsj: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... ok, I've heard Jim Blair talk about putting STP in an automatic transmission... every time I've heard this I've cringed with some skeptism, but didn't come out and say anything that this might not be a good thing... because I just didn't know... Well, the '83 Jimmy has had an issue with shifting into 3rd, either up or down... so I figured I'd try Jim's STP trick it.. it's been showing signs of the need for service... like not shifting into 3rd crisply... when standing on it and making it down shift one makes a lot of noise and Diesel smoke without a great deal of forward momentum... It sure makes commuting a bit awkward... requires planning... kind of like driving a very large 240D. ;) needless to say I figured I didn't have much to lose by trying it... ;) I will say that Jim was wrong about one thing... it wasn't $1.50, it was $2.37. ;) Anyway, I heated the stuff up, it's like Karo Corn Syrup, so I left it on the heater in my office for an hour or so, then started the truck and poured it in and moved it around right away. I remember playing with this stuff when it came out in the '60s. It was usually found on the bottom of the oil pan... Anyway, we went to town... and I am mildly amazed, but still a bit skeptical... like, will it work tomorrow? :) I hope so, because I'm down to my backup vehicle... the Benz needs a water pump (it's driveable but I have no desire to overheat a 2.5L Turbo Diesel that puts out almost as much getup and go as an AMC 360. ;) ... the '99 WJ is having a mild seizure... of the left rear caliper... of course the Willys isn't home yet, and of course superdawg is still spread out all over the place as he has been for the last four years now... my daughter's pontiac, the next to the last backup vehicle... did something weird the other day... I ran it for a way long time... (forgot I'd started it) and when I came out the brake lights were on... I pulled the fuse and when I put it back in today it seemed ok... weird... was that some kind of "hey stupid, you left me running for an hour and I don't like that" or what? :) Anyway... so far the STP in the Automatic transmission trick seems to have helped this '83 GMC Jimmy with the 700R4. It's shifting the way it should and the power has returned... I may just take a renewed interest in fixing this thing up since no one seems to want to buy it anyway. ;) Standby for the aftermath in tomorrows commute... watch the video cameras for the large silver and black 4x4 blocking either southbound or northbound I-5... ;) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:23:15 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... It's worked fine in every rear wheel drive trans I have had that was getting weak. Trans shop I worked in would add STP fortified ATF to freshly rebuilt trans and that kept them from having comebacks due to weak seals. So far 2 years and the J4000's missing first gear (when I first got it) has been there. It's the downshifting to second gear that has me bugged. (Probably would have cured it if I dropped the pan long ago and cleaned it out!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 06:59:26 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: hanging caliper really? i think i got 2 new ones a few months ago for only $30 each at my local NAPA.... Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Neal Hoover" Cc: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 6:35 PM Subject: Re: fsj: Re: hanging caliper > > napa want's $66 bucks and for me to wait until tomorrow... > will check with the dealer tomorrow... prefer to use good > parts... > > john > > On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: > > >-->if it's ceised, then bleeding won't do a thing. gotta rebuild it. > >-->but, for the time and cost of rebuilding, might as well get a new one, > >-->seeing as how cheap they are. > >--> > >-->Neal A. Hoover > >-->Project '76 J-10 > >-->Project '96 XJ > >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > >-->----- Original Message ----- > >-->From: "john" > >-->To: "full size jeep list" ; "xj-list" ; > >-->; "diesel-benz list" > >-->Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 11:08 PM > >-->Subject: fsj: hanging caliper > >--> > >--> > >-->> I have a caliper that appears to be stuck in the > >-->> on position... man, does it smell of hot brakes... > >-->> pulls in the opposite direction when the brakes are > >-->> applied... seems to me that I've been here before > >-->> and I had to replace the caliper... > >-->> > >-->> Would bleeding that caliper free it up, or do I > >-->> have only one option? > >-->> > >-->> thanx, > >-->> john > >-->> > >-->> ---- > >-->> > >-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- > >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > >-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> -- > >-->> No virus found in this incoming message. > >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/05 > >-->> > >-->> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->-- > >-->No virus found in this outgoing message. > >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/05 > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/05 > > - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/05 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:44:55 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Seevers Subject: Re: fsj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... Jim, How much do yo add?? A whole bottle/can, or a smaller amount? - --- Jim Blair wrote: > It's worked fine in every rear wheel drive trans I > have had that was > getting weak. Trans shop I worked in would add STP > fortified ATF to freshly > rebuilt trans and that kept them from having > comebacks due to weak seals. So > far 2 years and the J4000's missing first gear (when > I first got it) has > been there. It's the downshifting to second gear > that has me bugged. > (Probably would have cured it if I dropped the pan > long ago and cleaned it > out!) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:49:00 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: hanging caliper a rear caliper, left side, for a '99 WJ? john On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->really? i think i got 2 new ones a few months ago for only $30 each at my >-->local NAPA.... >--> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->Project '96 XJ >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->From: "john" >-->To: "Neal Hoover" >-->Cc: >-->Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 6:35 PM >-->Subject: Re: fsj: Re: hanging caliper >--> >--> >-->> >-->> napa want's $66 bucks and for me to wait until tomorrow... >-->> will check with the dealer tomorrow... prefer to use good >-->> parts... >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->if it's ceised, then bleeding won't do a thing. gotta rebuild it. >-->> >-->but, for the time and cost of rebuilding, might as well get a new one, >-->> >-->seeing as how cheap they are. >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->> >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->> >-->Project '96 XJ >-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->> >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->> >-->From: "john" >-->> >-->To: "full size jeep list" ; "xj-list" ; >-->> >-->; "diesel-benz list" >--> >-->> >-->Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 11:08 PM >-->> >-->Subject: fsj: hanging caliper >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> I have a caliper that appears to be stuck in the >-->> >-->> on position... man, does it smell of hot brakes... >-->> >-->> pulls in the opposite direction when the brakes are >-->> >-->> applied... seems to me that I've been here before >-->> >-->> and I had to replace the caliper... >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> Would bleeding that caliper free it up, or do I >-->> >-->> have only one option? >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> thanx, >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->>-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->--- >-->> >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> >-->>-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->--- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> -- >-->> >-->> No virus found in this incoming message. >-->> >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> >-->> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/05 >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->-- >-->> >-->No virus found in this outgoing message. >-->> >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> >-->Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/05 >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> -- >-->> No virus found in this incoming message. >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/05 >-->> >-->> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->No virus found in this outgoing message. >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/05 >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:55:23 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Brad Seevers wrote: >-->Jim, >--> >-->How much do yo add?? A whole bottle/can, or a smaller >-->amount? now you ask... I put the whole bottle in. ;) john >--> >-->--- Jim Blair wrote: >--> >-->> It's worked fine in every rear wheel drive trans I >-->> have had that was >-->> getting weak. Trans shop I worked in would add STP >-->> fortified ATF to freshly >-->> rebuilt trans and that kept them from having >-->> comebacks due to weak seals. So >-->> far 2 years and the J4000's missing first gear (when >-->> I first got it) has >-->> been there. It's the downshifting to second gear >-->> that has me bugged. >-->> (Probably would have cured it if I dropped the pan >-->> long ago and cleaned it >-->> out!) >-->Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >-->http://mail.yahoo.com >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:31:25 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... whole bottle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:14:34 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: SNORT4x4 forum - Two full size Jeeps, Make one Great one (not mine) 1 has 401 3 speed/D20 and the other is 360 auto/QT http://www.snort4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18676 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:14:52 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Seevers Subject: Re: fsj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... Thanks Jim! - --- Jim Blair wrote: > whole bottle Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:32:26 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: xj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... ok, come on now... you're old enough to remember... ain't ya? of course since jim blair is about the same age as my "kid" sister... maybe you don't remember... or weren't alive... ;) I'm a believer... ;) and for the record, it did NOT behave well when cold, but within about 5 miles it had perked back up, which means that it WAS at the bottom of the pan. :) john On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Don Hansen wrote: >-->"Cheer Up Sleepy John"???? >-->"Jeep Dream Believer"???? >--> >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->From: "john" >-->To: >-->Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:50 AM >-->Subject: Re: xj: Re: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... >--> >--> >-->> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Don Hansen wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->It worked fine in my J20. Firmed things right up! >-->> >-->> In about 20 minutes I'll be heading down I-5... >-->> >-->> could be a Monkees tune from the '60's emanating from >-->> that Diesel cab... I hope... ;) >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->> >-->From: "john" >-->> >-->To: "full size jeep list" >-->> >-->Cc: "xj-list" ; "diesel-benz list" >-->; >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 1:50 AM >-->> >-->Subject: xj: ok, I'm amazed... but still skeptical... >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> ok, I've heard Jim Blair talk about putting STP >-->> >-->> in an automatic transmission... every time I've heard this >-->> >-->> I've cringed with some skeptism, but didn't come out and say >-->anything >-->> >-->> that this might not be a good thing... because I just didn't know... >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> Well, the '83 Jimmy has had an issue with shifting into 3rd, either >-->> >-->> up or down... so I figured I'd try Jim's STP trick it.. it's been >-->> >-->> showing signs of the need for service... like not shifting >-->> >-->> into 3rd crisply... when standing on it and making it down >-->> >-->> shift one makes a lot of noise and Diesel smoke without a >-->> >-->> great deal of forward momentum... It sure makes commuting a bit >-->> >-->> awkward... requires planning... kind of like driving a very >-->> >-->> large 240D. ;) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> needless to say I figured I didn't have much to lose by trying >-->> >-->> it... ;) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> I will say that Jim was wrong about one thing... >-->> >-->> it wasn't $1.50, it was $2.37. ;) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> Anyway, I heated the stuff up, it's like Karo Corn Syrup, so I left >-->> >-->> it on the heater in my office for an hour or so, then started >-->> >-->> the truck and poured it in and moved it around right away. >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> I remember playing with this stuff when it came out in the '60s. >-->> >-->> It was usually found on the bottom of the oil pan... >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> Anyway, we went to town... and I am mildly amazed, but still >-->> >-->> a bit skeptical... like, will it work tomorrow? :) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> I hope so, because I'm down to my backup vehicle... the Benz >-->> >-->> needs a water pump (it's driveable but I have no desire to >-->> >-->> overheat a 2.5L Turbo Diesel that puts out almost as much >-->> >-->> getup and go as an AMC 360. ;) ... the '99 WJ is having >-->> >-->> a mild seizure... of the left rear caliper... >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> of course the Willys isn't home yet, and of course superdawg >-->> >-->> is still spread out all over the place as he has been for the last >-->> >-->> four years now... my daughter's pontiac, the next to the last >-->> >-->> backup vehicle... did something weird the other day... I ran >-->> >-->> it for a way long time... (forgot I'd started it) and when >-->> >-->> I came out the brake lights were on... I pulled the fuse and >-->> >-->> when I put it back in today it seemed ok... weird... was that >-->> >-->> some kind of "hey stupid, you left me running for an hour >-->> >-->> and I don't like that" or what? :) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> Anyway... so far the STP in the Automatic transmission trick >-->> >-->> seems to have helped this '83 GMC Jimmy with the 700R4. It's >-->> >-->> shifting the way it should and the power has returned... I may >-->> >-->> just take a renewed interest in fixing this thing up since no >-->> >-->> one seems to want to buy it anyway. ;) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> Standby for the aftermath in tomorrows commute... watch the >-->> >-->> video cameras for the large silver and black 4x4 blocking >-->> >-->> either southbound or northbound I-5... ;) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->>-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->--- >-->> >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> >-->>-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->--- >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:15:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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