From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Mar 1 21:38:02 2005 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, March 2 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2376 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: springs in the springtime... Re: fsj: springs in the springtime... Re: fsj: springs in the springtime... Re: fsj: springs in the springtime... Re: fsj: springs in the springtime... fsj: Re: springs in the springtime... fsj: Re: springs in the springtime... fsj: Re: springs in the springtime... fsj: Re: springs in the springtime... fsj: Re: springs in the springtime... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 16:36:17 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: fsj: springs in the springtime... I don't think they'll work in the rear, if I recall correctly the main spring on the J10 is longer than on a wagoneer. I used part of wagoneer springs on my J10, but couldn't use the main spring. I think the front's will interchange though. http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/springfarm.jpg http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/J10-poormans-lift/ john On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, jeremi smyers wrote: >--> >-->Hi John how are you? I am doing good.. Hey had a question for you.....Do you know if springs from a 84 grand wagoneer fit on a j - series truck? I have brand new springs that i dont need so im selling them and some guy is asking. thanks and hope you or someone knows.... >--> >-->thanks >--> >-->__________________________________________________ ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 15:26:27 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Seevers Subject: Re: fsj: springs in the springtime... John, I looked over you poormans-lift pics with interest. What execatly did you do? Did you just add leafs, or select different leafs (or both)? Looks like you got a couple inches of lift. - -brad - --- john wrote: > I don't think they'll work in the rear, if I recall > correctly the main > spring on the J10 is longer than on a wagoneer. I > used part of wagoneer > springs on my J10, but couldn't use the main spring. > > I think the front's will interchange though. > > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/springfarm.jpg > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/J10-poormans-lift/ > > john > > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, jeremi smyers wrote: > > >--> > >-->Hi John how are you? I am doing good.. Hey had a > question for you.....Do you know if springs from a > 84 grand wagoneer fit on a j - series truck? I have > brand new springs that i dont need so im selling > them and some guy is asking. thanks and hope you or > someone knows.... > >--> > >-->thanks > >--> > >-->__________________________________________________ > ---- > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** > http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't > rust, they mold. > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 15:35:45 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Seevers Subject: Re: fsj: springs in the springtime... Okay, I finished lookin at all your spring pics, and I see that the new spring packs have the same number of leafs, but much more arch. It looks like some might be due to add-a-leafs, but also it looks like some of the leafs have considerably more arch than the old springs. What were they off of? - -brad - --- Brad Seevers wrote: > John, > > I looked over you poormans-lift pics with interest. > What execatly did you do? Did you just add leafs, > or > select different leafs (or both)? Looks like you > got > a couple inches of lift. > > -brad > > --- john wrote: > > I don't think they'll work in the rear, if I > recall > > correctly the main > > spring on the J10 is longer than on a wagoneer. I > > used part of wagoneer > > springs on my J10, but couldn't use the main > spring. > > > > I think the front's will interchange though. > > > > > > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/springfarm.jpg > > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/J10-poormans-lift/ > > > > john > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, jeremi smyers wrote: > > > > >--> > > >-->Hi John how are you? I am doing good.. Hey had > a > > question for you.....Do you know if springs from a > > 84 grand wagoneer fit on a j - series truck? I > have > > brand new springs that i dont need so im selling > > them and some guy is asking. thanks and hope you > or > > someone knows.... > > >--> > > >-->thanks > > >--> > > > >-->__________________________________________________ > > ---- > > > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** > > http://freegift.net ** > > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't > > rust, they mold. > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile > phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 19:06:56 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: springs in the springtime... On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Brad Seevers wrote: >--> >-->Okay, I finished lookin at all your spring pics, and I >-->see that the new spring packs have the same number of >-->leafs, but much more arch. It looks like some might >-->be due to add-a-leafs, but also it looks like some of >-->the leafs have considerably more arch than the old >-->springs. What were they off of? a variety of FSJs... not sure from whence they came... john >--> >-->-brad >--> >-->--- Brad Seevers wrote: >-->> John, >-->> >-->> I looked over you poormans-lift pics with interest. >-->> What execatly did you do? Did you just add leafs, >-->> or >-->> select different leafs (or both)? Looks like you >-->> got >-->> a couple inches of lift. >-->> >-->> -brad >-->> >-->> --- john wrote: >-->> > I don't think they'll work in the rear, if I >-->> recall >-->> > correctly the main >-->> > spring on the J10 is longer than on a wagoneer. I >-->> > used part of wagoneer >-->> > springs on my J10, but couldn't use the main >-->> spring. >-->> > >-->> > I think the front's will interchange though. >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> >-->http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/springfarm.jpg >-->> > >-->> >-->http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/J10-poormans-lift/ >-->> > >-->> > john >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, jeremi smyers wrote: >-->> > >-->> > >--> >-->> > >-->Hi John how are you? I am doing good.. Hey had >-->> a >-->> > question for you.....Do you know if springs from a >-->> > 84 grand wagoneer fit on a j - series truck? I >-->> have >-->> > brand new springs that i dont need so im selling >-->> > them and some guy is asking. thanks and hope you >-->> or >-->> > someone knows.... >-->> > >--> >-->> > >-->thanks >-->> > >--> >-->> > >-->> >-->>-->__________________________________________________ >-->> > ---- >-->> > >-->> > >-->> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** >-->> > http://freegift.net ** >-->> > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't >-->> > rust, they mold. >-->> > >-->> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile >-->> phone. >-->> http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo >-->> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. >-->http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 19:06:17 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: springs in the springtime... I took apart several sets of springs... laid them out.. then I walked around and stepped on each one... looking for the right amount of flex and arch... then I put them together as my spring packs... got at least 2" of lift that way and a nice ride. :) john On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Brad Seevers wrote: >--> >-->John, >--> >-->I looked over you poormans-lift pics with interest. >-->What execatly did you do? Did you just add leafs, or >-->select different leafs (or both)? Looks like you got >-->a couple inches of lift. >--> >-->-brad >--> >-->--- john wrote: >-->> I don't think they'll work in the rear, if I recall >-->> correctly the main >-->> spring on the J10 is longer than on a wagoneer. I >-->> used part of wagoneer >-->> springs on my J10, but couldn't use the main spring. >-->> >-->> I think the front's will interchange though. >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/springfarm.jpg >-->> >-->http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/J10-poormans-lift/ >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, jeremi smyers wrote: >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Hi John how are you? I am doing good.. Hey had a >-->> question for you.....Do you know if springs from a >-->> 84 grand wagoneer fit on a j - series truck? I have >-->> brand new springs that i dont need so im selling >-->> them and some guy is asking. thanks and hope you or >-->> someone knows.... >-->> >--> >-->> >-->thanks >-->> >--> >-->> >-->>-->__________________________________________________ >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** >-->> http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't >-->> rust, they mold. >-->> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >--> >--> >--> >-->Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. >-->http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:31:23 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: springs in the springtime... fwiw, i called espo today, and they said that the 119" wheelbase rear springs will interchange with GW rears, but not for the 131" j-trucks. still want to sell those springs, Jay? ;) Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "jeremi smyers" Cc: "full size jeep list" Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:36 PM Subject: fsj: springs in the springtime... > I don't think they'll work in the rear, if I recall correctly the main > spring on the J10 is longer than on a wagoneer. I used part of wagoneer > springs on my J10, but couldn't use the main spring. > > I think the front's will interchange though. > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/springfarm.jpg > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/J10-poormans-lift/ > > john > > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, jeremi smyers wrote: > > >--> > >-->Hi John how are you? I am doing good.. Hey had a question for you.....Do you know if springs from a 84 grand wagoneer fit on a j - series truck? I have brand new springs that i dont need so im selling them and some guy is asking. thanks and hope you or someone knows.... > >--> > >-->thanks > >--> > >-->__________________________________________________ > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 > > - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:35:32 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: springs in the springtime... On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: my j10 is the 119", they were different than the wag... john >-->fwiw, i called espo today, and they said that the 119" wheelbase rear >-->springs will interchange with GW rears, but not for the 131" j-trucks. >-->still want to sell those springs, Jay? ;) >--> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->Project '96 XJ >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->From: "john" >-->To: "jeremi smyers" >-->Cc: "full size jeep list" >-->Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:36 PM >-->Subject: fsj: springs in the springtime... >--> >--> >-->> I don't think they'll work in the rear, if I recall correctly the main >-->> spring on the J10 is longer than on a wagoneer. I used part of wagoneer >-->> springs on my J10, but couldn't use the main spring. >-->> >-->> I think the front's will interchange though. >-->> >-->> http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/springfarm.jpg >-->> http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/J10-poormans-lift/ >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, jeremi smyers wrote: >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Hi John how are you? I am doing good.. Hey had a question for >-->you.....Do you know if springs from a 84 grand wagoneer fit on a j - series >-->truck? I have brand new springs that i dont need so im selling them and some >-->guy is asking. thanks and hope you or someone knows.... >-->> >--> >-->> >-->thanks >-->> >--> >-->> >-->__________________________________________________ >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> -- >-->> No virus found in this incoming message. >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 >-->> >-->> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->No virus found in this outgoing message. >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:50:40 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: springs in the springtime... hmmmm..... i'm gonna STRANGLE somebody at espo!!! (but, they *did* say that both spring sets had the same P/N) btw, anyone have a clean set of stock rear j-truck springs they want to part with for cheap??? Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Neal Hoover" Cc: "jeremi smyers" ; "full size jeep list" Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:35 PM Subject: Re: springs in the springtime... > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: > > > my j10 is the 119", they were different than the wag... > john > > >-->fwiw, i called espo today, and they said that the 119" wheelbase rear > >-->springs will interchange with GW rears, but not for the 131" j-trucks. > >-->still want to sell those springs, Jay? ;) > >--> > >-->Neal A. Hoover > >-->Project '76 J-10 > >-->Project '96 XJ > >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > >-->----- Original Message ----- > >-->From: "john" > >-->To: "jeremi smyers" > >-->Cc: "full size jeep list" > >-->Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:36 PM > >-->Subject: fsj: springs in the springtime... > >--> > >--> > >-->> I don't think they'll work in the rear, if I recall correctly the main > >-->> spring on the J10 is longer than on a wagoneer. I used part of wagoneer > >-->> springs on my J10, but couldn't use the main spring. > >-->> > >-->> I think the front's will interchange though. > >-->> > >-->> http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/springfarm.jpg > >-->> http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/J10-poormans-lift/ > >-->> > >-->> john > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, jeremi smyers wrote: > >-->> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->Hi John how are you? I am doing good.. Hey had a question for > >-->you.....Do you know if springs from a 84 grand wagoneer fit on a j - series > >-->truck? I have brand new springs that i dont need so im selling them and some > >-->guy is asking. thanks and hope you or someone knows.... > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->thanks > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->__________________________________________________ > >-->> ---- > >-->> > >-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- > >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > >-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> -- > >-->> No virus found in this incoming message. > >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 > >-->> > >-->> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->-- > >-->No virus found in this outgoing message. > >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 > >--> > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 > > - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 21:34:59 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: springs in the springtime... well I think all but the main spring is the same... could be that I had older springs, all I know is they didn't match up with what I had... john On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->hmmmm..... >-->i'm gonna STRANGLE somebody at espo!!! (but, they *did* say that both >-->spring sets had the same P/N) >--> >-->btw, anyone have a clean set of stock rear j-truck springs they want to part >-->with for cheap??? >--> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->Project '96 XJ >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->From: "john" >-->To: "Neal Hoover" >-->Cc: "jeremi smyers" ; "full size jeep >-->list" >-->Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:35 PM >-->Subject: Re: springs in the springtime... >--> >--> >-->> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->> my j10 is the 119", they were different than the wag... >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->fwiw, i called espo today, and they said that the 119" wheelbase rear >-->> >-->springs will interchange with GW rears, but not for the 131" j-trucks. >-->> >-->still want to sell those springs, Jay? ;) >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->> >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->> >-->Project '96 XJ >-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->> >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->> >-->From: "john" >-->> >-->To: "jeremi smyers" >-->> >-->Cc: "full size jeep list" >-->> >-->Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:36 PM >-->> >-->Subject: fsj: springs in the springtime... >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> I don't think they'll work in the rear, if I recall correctly the >-->main >-->> >-->> spring on the J10 is longer than on a wagoneer. I used part of >-->wagoneer >-->> >-->> springs on my J10, but couldn't use the main spring. >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> I think the front's will interchange though. >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/springfarm.jpg >-->> >-->> http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/J10-poormans-lift/ >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, jeremi smyers wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->Hi John how are you? I am doing good.. Hey had a question for >-->> >-->you.....Do you know if springs from a 84 grand wagoneer fit on a j - >-->series >-->> >-->truck? I have brand new springs that i dont need so im selling them >-->and some >-->> >-->guy is asking. thanks and hope you or someone knows.... >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->thanks >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->__________________________________________________ >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->>-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->--- >-->> >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> >-->>-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->--- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> -- >-->> >-->> No virus found in this incoming message. >-->> >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> >-->> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->-- >-->> >-->No virus found in this outgoing message. >-->> >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> >-->Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> -- >-->> No virus found in this incoming message. >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 >-->> >-->> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->No virus found in this outgoing message. >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/05 >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 18:33:17 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: Re: springs in the springtime... A: They are indeed longer. That was why I had to sell my custom made rear springs I had made for my '83 Cherokee, or they would've been om ny '84 J10! I don't think they'll work in the rear, if I recall correctly the main spring on the J10 is longer than on a wagoneer. I used part of wagoneer springs on my J10, but couldn't use the main spring. I think the front's will interchange though. http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/springfarm.jpg http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/J10-poormans-lift/ john ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2376 **************************