From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Mar 31 23:24:08 2005 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, April 1 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2403 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: datum line references fsj: Re: datum line references fsj: Re: datum line references fsj: Re: datum line references fsj: Re: datum line references fsj: Re: datum line references fsj: Re: datum line references FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:43:09 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: datum line references hey, john- do you or anyone else on this list know anything about the "datum line" referenced in the frame section of the FSM? i'm trying to use those numbers to work on my rig's chassis, and it's not making sense to me, as simple as it all seems. please?!?!? Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:58:20 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: datum line references which rig? If I understand the question, this refers to taking measurements across the rig from one corner to the other. I just went through this with a car... When you let me know which rig you're talking about I'll open a manual and look and see if I can explain it... or better yet, will wait for someone with more body experience than me to explain it... :) john On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->hey, john- >--> >-->do you or anyone else on this list know anything about the "datum line" >-->referenced in the frame section of the FSM? i'm trying to use those numbers >-->to work on my rig's chassis, and it's not making sense to me, as simple as >-->it all seems. >-->please?!?!? >--> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->Project '96 XJ >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:08:50 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: datum line references actually, it is strictly to do with the frame. it looks like the measurements are from various points on the frame plumb down to an arbitrary level plane below. i tried taking these measurements, and it's not coming out proportional to the numbers in the chart. oh, and it's for my j-10. Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Neal Hoover" Cc: "full size jeep list" Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:58 PM Subject: Re: datum line references > > which rig? > > If I understand the question, this refers to taking measurements > across the rig from one corner to the other. I just went through > this with a car... When you let me know which rig you're talking > about I'll open a manual and look and see if I can explain it... or > better yet, will wait for someone with more body experience than > me to explain it... :) > > john > > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: > > >-->hey, john- > >--> > >-->do you or anyone else on this list know anything about the "datum line" > >-->referenced in the frame section of the FSM? i'm trying to use those numbers > >-->to work on my rig's chassis, and it's not making sense to me, as simple as > >-->it all seems. > >-->please?!?!? > >--> > >-->Neal A. Hoover > >-->Project '76 J-10 > >-->Project '96 XJ > >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->-- > >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > >--> > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > > - -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:31:29 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: datum line references is your frame bent? ok, looking at pages 14-6 and 14-7 (is yours 119 or 131")? on page 14-2 it goes through the details... I really don't feel like reading all of that... what part do you have a question on? if you don't have the 1976 factory manual I can take digital pictures of the pages and email them to you... I have no idea what a datum gauge is... although when they talk about plumb bobbing and marking the floor underneath, I'm assuming they are having you measure the horizontal distances from that point as opposed to attempting to measure across the frame as there might be interference. in other words, if wanted to measure the cab mounts, i.e. Q, you'd drop a plumb line down from the center of "2, mark the floor under both points and measure that instead of across the frame. john On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->actually, it is strictly to do with the frame. it looks like the >-->measurements are from various points on the frame plumb down to an arbitrary >-->level plane below. i tried taking these measurements, and it's not coming >-->out proportional to the numbers in the chart. >-->oh, and it's for my j-10. >--> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->Project '96 XJ >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->From: "john" >-->To: "Neal Hoover" >-->Cc: "full size jeep list" >-->Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:58 PM >-->Subject: Re: datum line references >--> >--> >-->> >-->> which rig? >-->> >-->> If I understand the question, this refers to taking measurements >-->> across the rig from one corner to the other. I just went through >-->> this with a car... When you let me know which rig you're talking >-->> about I'll open a manual and look and see if I can explain it... or >-->> better yet, will wait for someone with more body experience than >-->> me to explain it... :) >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->hey, john- >-->> >--> >-->> >-->do you or anyone else on this list know anything about the "datum >-->line" >-->> >-->referenced in the frame section of the FSM? i'm trying to use those >-->numbers >-->> >-->to work on my rig's chassis, and it's not making sense to me, as >-->simple as >-->> >-->it all seems. >-->> >-->please?!?!? >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->> >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->> >-->Project '96 XJ >-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->-- >-->> >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >-->> >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> -- >-->> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 >-->> >-->> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:05:40 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: datum line references it's the 119" wheelbase. i'm HOPING that the frame isn't bent! that's what is driving some of this, not to mention trying to figure out how to do my suspension mods. anyway, i'm not worried tto much about the distances between mounting points, but rather the vertical distances from the frame to the datum line. my FSM is out in the garage right now, so i'll look at page 14-2 tomorrow. i read the entire chapter, and don't remember reading what you mentioned. Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Neal Hoover" Cc: "full size jeep list" Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:31 PM Subject: Re: datum line references > > is your frame bent? > > ok, looking at pages 14-6 and 14-7 (is yours 119 or 131")? > > on page 14-2 it goes through the details... I really don't > feel like reading all of that... what part do you have a question on? > > if you don't have the 1976 factory manual I can take digital > pictures of the pages and email them to you... I have > no idea what a datum gauge is... > > although when they talk about plumb bobbing and marking > the floor underneath, I'm assuming they are having you > measure the horizontal distances from that point as opposed > to attempting to measure across the frame as there might > be interference. > > in other words, if wanted to measure the cab mounts, i.e. Q, > you'd drop a plumb line down from the center of "2, mark > the floor under both points and measure that instead of > across the frame. > > john > > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: > > >-->actually, it is strictly to do with the frame. it looks like the > >-->measurements are from various points on the frame plumb down to an arbitrary > >-->level plane below. i tried taking these measurements, and it's not coming > >-->out proportional to the numbers in the chart. > >-->oh, and it's for my j-10. > >--> > >-->Neal A. Hoover > >-->Project '76 J-10 > >-->Project '96 XJ > >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > >-->----- Original Message ----- > >-->From: "john" > >-->To: "Neal Hoover" > >-->Cc: "full size jeep list" > >-->Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:58 PM > >-->Subject: Re: datum line references > >--> > >--> > >-->> > >-->> which rig? > >-->> > >-->> If I understand the question, this refers to taking measurements > >-->> across the rig from one corner to the other. I just went through > >-->> this with a car... When you let me know which rig you're talking > >-->> about I'll open a manual and look and see if I can explain it... or > >-->> better yet, will wait for someone with more body experience than > >-->> me to explain it... :) > >-->> > >-->> john > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: > >-->> > >-->> >-->hey, john- > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->do you or anyone else on this list know anything about the "datum > >-->line" > >-->> >-->referenced in the frame section of the FSM? i'm trying to use those > >-->numbers > >-->> >-->to work on my rig's chassis, and it's not making sense to me, as > >-->simple as > >-->> >-->it all seems. > >-->> >-->please?!?!? > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->Neal A. Hoover > >-->> >-->Project '76 J-10 > >-->> >-->Project '96 XJ > >-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->-- > >-->> >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >-->> >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->> >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> > >-->> ---- > >-->> > >-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- > >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > >-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> -- > >-->> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > >-->> > >-->> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->-- > >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > >--> > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > > - -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:59:37 -0500 (EST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: datum line references is your FSM for 1976? I've got the J-series, 76, 77, 79, 80, 82 and mr253. john On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->it's the 119" wheelbase. >-->i'm HOPING that the frame isn't bent! that's what is driving some of this, >-->not to mention trying to figure out how to do my suspension mods. >-->anyway, i'm not worried tto much about the distances between mounting >-->points, but rather the vertical distances from the frame to the datum line. >--> >-->my FSM is out in the garage right now, so i'll look at page 14-2 tomorrow. >-->i read the entire chapter, and don't remember reading what you mentioned. >--> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->Project '96 XJ >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->From: "john" >-->To: "Neal Hoover" >-->Cc: "full size jeep list" >-->Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:31 PM >-->Subject: Re: datum line references >--> >--> >-->> >-->> is your frame bent? >-->> >-->> ok, looking at pages 14-6 and 14-7 (is yours 119 or 131")? >-->> >-->> on page 14-2 it goes through the details... I really don't >-->> feel like reading all of that... what part do you have a question on? >-->> >-->> if you don't have the 1976 factory manual I can take digital >-->> pictures of the pages and email them to you... I have >-->> no idea what a datum gauge is... >-->> >-->> although when they talk about plumb bobbing and marking >-->> the floor underneath, I'm assuming they are having you >-->> measure the horizontal distances from that point as opposed >-->> to attempting to measure across the frame as there might >-->> be interference. >-->> >-->> in other words, if wanted to measure the cab mounts, i.e. Q, >-->> you'd drop a plumb line down from the center of "2, mark >-->> the floor under both points and measure that instead of >-->> across the frame. >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->actually, it is strictly to do with the frame. it looks like the >-->> >-->measurements are from various points on the frame plumb down to an >-->arbitrary >-->> >-->level plane below. i tried taking these measurements, and it's not >-->coming >-->> >-->out proportional to the numbers in the chart. >-->> >-->oh, and it's for my j-10. >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->> >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->> >-->Project '96 XJ >-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->> >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->> >-->From: "john" >-->> >-->To: "Neal Hoover" >-->> >-->Cc: "full size jeep list" >-->> >-->Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:58 PM >-->> >-->Subject: Re: datum line references >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> which rig? >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> If I understand the question, this refers to taking measurements >-->> >-->> across the rig from one corner to the other. I just went through >-->> >-->> this with a car... When you let me know which rig you're talking >-->> >-->> about I'll open a manual and look and see if I can explain it... or >-->> >-->> better yet, will wait for someone with more body experience than >-->> >-->> me to explain it... :) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->hey, john- >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->do you or anyone else on this list know anything about the >-->"datum >-->> >-->line" >-->> >-->> >-->referenced in the frame section of the FSM? i'm trying to use >-->those >-->> >-->numbers >-->> >-->> >-->to work on my rig's chassis, and it's not making sense to me, as >-->> >-->simple as >-->> >-->> >-->it all seems. >-->> >-->> >-->please?!?!? >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->> >-->> >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->> >-->> >-->Project '96 XJ >-->> >-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->-- >-->> >-->> >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >-->> >-->> >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> >-->> >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: >-->3/4/05 >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->>-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->--- >-->> >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> >-->>-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->--- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> -- >-->> >-->> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >-->> >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> >-->> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->-- >-->> >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >-->> >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> -- >-->> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 >-->> >-->> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:17:21 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: datum line references i believe so (again, it's out in the garage) would it be too much trouble to scan that page 14-2 you have and the diagram of the frame with the chart and numbers on it? Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Neal Hoover" Cc: "full size jeep list" Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:59 PM Subject: Re: datum line references > > is your FSM for 1976? I've got the J-series, > 76, 77, 79, 80, 82 and mr253. > > john > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: > > >-->it's the 119" wheelbase. > >-->i'm HOPING that the frame isn't bent! that's what is driving some of this, > >-->not to mention trying to figure out how to do my suspension mods. > >-->anyway, i'm not worried tto much about the distances between mounting > >-->points, but rather the vertical distances from the frame to the datum line. > >--> > >-->my FSM is out in the garage right now, so i'll look at page 14-2 tomorrow. > >-->i read the entire chapter, and don't remember reading what you mentioned. > >--> > >-->Neal A. Hoover > >-->Project '76 J-10 > >-->Project '96 XJ > >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > >-->----- Original Message ----- > >-->From: "john" > >-->To: "Neal Hoover" > >-->Cc: "full size jeep list" > >-->Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:31 PM > >-->Subject: Re: datum line references > >--> > >--> > >-->> > >-->> is your frame bent? > >-->> > >-->> ok, looking at pages 14-6 and 14-7 (is yours 119 or 131")? > >-->> > >-->> on page 14-2 it goes through the details... I really don't > >-->> feel like reading all of that... what part do you have a question on? > >-->> > >-->> if you don't have the 1976 factory manual I can take digital > >-->> pictures of the pages and email them to you... I have > >-->> no idea what a datum gauge is... > >-->> > >-->> although when they talk about plumb bobbing and marking > >-->> the floor underneath, I'm assuming they are having you > >-->> measure the horizontal distances from that point as opposed > >-->> to attempting to measure across the frame as there might > >-->> be interference. > >-->> > >-->> in other words, if wanted to measure the cab mounts, i.e. Q, > >-->> you'd drop a plumb line down from the center of "2, mark > >-->> the floor under both points and measure that instead of > >-->> across the frame. > >-->> > >-->> john > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: > >-->> > >-->> >-->actually, it is strictly to do with the frame. it looks like the > >-->> >-->measurements are from various points on the frame plumb down to an > >-->arbitrary > >-->> >-->level plane below. i tried taking these measurements, and it's not > >-->coming > >-->> >-->out proportional to the numbers in the chart. > >-->> >-->oh, and it's for my j-10. > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->Neal A. Hoover > >-->> >-->Project '76 J-10 > >-->> >-->Project '96 XJ > >-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > >-->> >-->----- Original Message ----- > >-->> >-->From: "john" > >-->> >-->To: "Neal Hoover" > >-->> >-->Cc: "full size jeep list" > >-->> >-->Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:58 PM > >-->> >-->Subject: Re: datum line references > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> which rig? > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> If I understand the question, this refers to taking measurements > >-->> >-->> across the rig from one corner to the other. I just went through > >-->> >-->> this with a car... When you let me know which rig you're talking > >-->> >-->> about I'll open a manual and look and see if I can explain it... or > >-->> >-->> better yet, will wait for someone with more body experience than > >-->> >-->> me to explain it... :) > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> john > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Neal Hoover wrote: > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> >-->hey, john- > >-->> >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->> >-->do you or anyone else on this list know anything about the > >-->"datum > >-->> >-->line" > >-->> >-->> >-->referenced in the frame section of the FSM? i'm trying to use > >-->those > >-->> >-->numbers > >-->> >-->> >-->to work on my rig's chassis, and it's not making sense to me, as > >-->> >-->simple as > >-->> >-->> >-->it all seems. > >-->> >-->> >-->please?!?!? > >-->> >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->> >-->Neal A. Hoover > >-->> >-->> >-->Project '76 J-10 > >-->> >-->> >-->Project '96 XJ > >-->> >-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > >-->> >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->> >-->-- > >-->> >-->> >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >-->> >-->> >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->> >-->> >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: > >-->3/4/05 > >-->> >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> ---- > >-->> >-->> > >-->> > >-->>-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---- > >-->--- > >-->> >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > >-->> >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > >-->> > >-->>-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---- > >-->--- > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> -- > >-->> >-->> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >-->> >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->> >-->> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->-- > >-->> >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >-->> >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->> >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> > >-->> ---- > >-->> > >-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- > >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > >-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> -- > >-->> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >-->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > >-->> > >-->> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->-- > >-->Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >-->Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > >--> > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > > - -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2403 **************************