From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon May 30 14:29:43 2005 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, May 30 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2448 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: Re: [db] how much would these weigh? fsj: Re: [db] don't look if you are a bit squeamish ;-) FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 01:39:15 -0400 (EDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: [db] how much would these weigh? On Sat, 28 May 2005, Jim Blair wrote: >-->A: With the right gear ratio, the 2.5L can haul quite the load. I had 4.10 >-->in my Comanche and rolled to Ouray in '02 with a GVW of 6,000 lbs and passed >-->quite a few vehicles till I hit the mountains and my speed dropped to 55 mph >-->uphill. agreed, it does quite well on the freeway... I was amazed. john >--> >--> >-->oh, you'd be surprised... I actually towed my J10 trailer >-->up the hill with the 2.5L XJ before I fixed it... I tried >-->to check the 0 to 60 time... but it wouldn't go that fast up >-->the clearview hill... :) >--> >-->It might now, it's running better. :) >--> >-->john >--> >-->On Sat, 28 May 2005, Dan Black wrote: >--> >-->>-->Kevin Pekarek said: >-->>-->{- On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 06:19:33PM -0400, john wrote: >-->>-->{- > how much would these weigh? >-->>-->{- > >-->>-->{- > concrete panels heavily reinforced with rebar. >-->>-->{- > Each panel is 8" thick, 45 1/2" wide, 129 1/2" long. >-->>--> >-->>-->{- I'd leave it at 'effing heavy' myself, but if I was crazy (no >-->>comments >-->>-->{- from the peanut gallery here), I'd probably consider using that J-10 >-->>trailer >-->>-->{- Curtis built and an engine hoist to load them up. Less than 4' wide >-->>and >-->>-->{- about 10.75 feet long, it would hang out the back of the trailer >-->>enough to >-->>-->{- require a red flag, but probably not enough to get the state >-->>trooper's >-->>-->{- attention. Unless you're towing it with a four banger XJ, of course >-->>:) >-->>--> >-->>-->Hey, at least it wouldn't be a _moving_ violation. >-->>--> >-->>-->------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->>--> Professional driver on closed course. >-->>--> Do not attempt. >-->>-->-------------- Dan Black ------------------------- >-->>dan-at-black.org -------------- >-->>--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 14:24:08 -0400 (EDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] don't look if you are a bit squeamish ;-) On Mon, 30 May 2005, Stephen Rigley wrote: >-->http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6154&item=4552440151&rd=1 >--> >-->bruuutal! >--> It looks pretty good to me... at least in concept... ;) (remember this sort of thing ALMOST happened here to a certain '77 300CD and an '83 GMC Jimmy with a 6.2L Diesel... instead the 6.2L idea ended up in my '83 J10. But wait, I still have the '83 Jimmy... ;) My '83 K15 is way wider than my 124 Benz, and it sure shows, look at how far the wheels stick out. You can't tell if they modified the front suspension or just welded a bunch of stuff to hold the benz up. However, I suppose this is a good use for a GAS Mercedes anyway. :) However, there are a number of weak spots in this design, besides the Chevy part: 1) 305 - some journalist refer to it as 3 oh why? 2) Turbo 350 - rather lightweight version of the TH400 3) Holley CARB??? yuck. 4) no title for the Benz, that could be an issue, must have come from NJ late at night maybe? ;) The driveline in this conversion is, shall we say, pathetic. There isn't a single component, except maybe the transfer case, which isn't mentioned, that is worthy of any 4x4. My '83 Jimmy popped a hub in the back yard moving my J10 trailer around. GM stuff is not exactly durable. The 3/4T GMC truck that got tagged by that TJ in a 20mph zone sure showed that to me. Anyway, if my '91 300D 2.5L Turbo Diesel ever gets wrecked or vandalized or otherwise totalled and the motor is still good I would like to put it into an XJ. :) But if the motor were to go away in the 124 I don't think I'd put the body onto a 4x4... seats aren't comfortable enough and Rube Goldberg was part of the design team for the climate control, door locks, windows, etc. etc. ;) One of the reasons I usually don't read the want ads or wander around unsupervised in wrecking yards is that I get too many ideas, and there is so little time, so little space. :) Someone needs to come to my house and rescue the '79 300SD, the '86 Cherokee Chief and the '92 Cherokee Sport and maybe the '83 GMC Jimmy before something strange and unusual happens there... :) 6.2L into the '79 300SD, the 3.0L into the '92 XJ... then the 4.0L into the '83 Jimmy???? no, just can't make it work... ;) FWIW, Here's some of the details from the overpriced ebay ad: (thankfully. ;) if this was priced around $1,500 or so and on the west coast this thing might find it's way on top of the aforementioned '83 GMC Jimmy 6.2L Diesel chassis... ;) later, john 1977 Chevrolet : Blazer Chevrolet Item number: 4552440151 Vehicle Description Here's your chance to own a one of a kind "Monster Mercedes" that I bet not everyone has.I have for auction a 87 Mercedes 260E on a 77 Chevy blazer drive train.The body is in good shape with a few small ding's.The interior is in good shape tan in color,The seats are manual adjustment,electric windows ,sunroof, power locks . The rear seat is from a 400E so it is bucket type seats with a wood roll top arm rest .I have the air bag disconnected but it can be plugged back if you prefer.The engine is a 305, 8 cylinder with a Holley 650 carb .vac .mod. manual choke,Dynomax headers custom dual 2 1/2 "exaust with Thrush mufflers and chrome tips.All of the suspention is stock 77 chevy.It has new 31x10.5 Liberator AT radial tires with less than 50 miles on them.I have a title for the blazer but not the Mercedes.Due to the fact that it is a custom built vehicle the actual mileage may be more or less than stated.There is no warranty on this vehicle.but I would drive it any where with confidence.The four wheel drive works fine,the transmission is a turbo 350. automatic.I had it tagged on street rod tags,drove it it a few times a month ,I have turned many heads with this truck,lots of smiles and thumbs up from other drivers.People stop in my drive way to ask questions.Every one wants to know ,how the? what the? I have never seen anything that looks like that in my life! Here's your chance to own a one of a kind vehicle whether you think its a truck or a car ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2448 **************************