From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Jul 26 12:50:00 2005 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, July 26 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2481 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! fsj: New Tire Design Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! fsj: Re: New Tire Design Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! Re: fsj: Re: New Tire Design Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! Re: fsj: Re: New Tire Design Re: fsj: Re: New Tire Design fsj: Re: [db] Tips on Replacing A/C Condenser (124)? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:52:03 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! the XJ and FSJ mirrors are identical... I had one of each, but may have sold them on ebay a few years ago... ...need to send a search party into the snohomish monster carport... john On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Dan Black wrote: >-->"Tacoma White" said: >-->{- other little stuff, if you need it ask, I might have it. >--> >-->Do you, or does anyone else, have a center rear view mirror (and foot) >-->they'd be willing to sell cheap and send to Iowa (50010)? Obviously, >-->I'd pay shipping, which should only be in the $4-5 range. >--> >-->I don't like the rear view mirror on the Mark VIII. It's too narrow >-->(not too bad, but can't see all of the back window!), and there are I >-->think three joints that can't easily be tightened, so the thing shakes >-->all around, worse than the side mirrors on the FSJs. I don't care >-->either way about the electronic auto-dimming bit, so I just want to >-->replace it with one like the FSJs have. Of course I'll tie up the >-->wires/plug going to the mirror and keep the original, but I want a good >-->old-fashioned solid wide mirror. Must be in nice shape, pref. with the >-->black plastic trim (was there any other kind on the FSJs?). >--> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> An Entomological Discourse | Little bugs have on their backs >--> on Marxist Dialectic | bigger bugs that bite 'em. >--> -- Ogden Nash | And bigger bugs have bigger still >--> | and so ad infinitum. >-->-------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:06:17 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! john said: {- the XJ and FSJ mirrors are identical... I had one {- of each, but may have sold them on ebay a few years ago... Hmmm, then hopefully I won't have any problem finding a good one at a junkyard. Just haven't had time to go look. I checked Napa, and they were expensive and didn't have any but the smallest in stock (which was smaller than the one in the car now). I'll check when I have time. Thanks! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The significant problems we are facing can not be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. -- Albert Einstein - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:09:49 -0500 From: Damian Shaver Subject: fsj: New Tire Design John, I wanted to pass this along to the list. Didn't know if you would allow pics to come through??? - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Damian Shaver Date: Jul 25, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: New Tire Design To: Ethan Gingras , "James D. Shafer" , Michael Strong , "Clint Bernatis (E-mail 2)" , Caleb Hanson , Josh Dragseth , Chris Day - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Damian Shaver Date: Jul 25, 2005 9:23 AM Subject: FW: To: docrhg-at-aol.com, happydentist-at-sbcglobal.net, rudyrogmans-at-yahoo.com, damianshaver-at-gmail.com, jaedeanne-at-hotmail.com From: "Shaver, Mike" To: 'Damian hotmail' , 'Ed Childress' , 'Ed Gowash' , 'Greg Shaver' , 'Jeannette' , 'Larry Bean' , 'Steve Brown' , 'Ted Mynyk' , 'Tom Siler' Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:04:51 -0500 New Michelin tire Now this is the wildest thing to come along in a long time! Below are pictures of the new Michelin tires. These tires are airless and are scheduled to be out on the market soon. The bad news for law enforcement is that spike strips will not work on these tires. Michael W. Shaver H-1 Upgrade Electrical/Lighting/Avionics Wk: (817) 280-6864 Fax:(817) 278-6864 E-mail: mshaver-at-bellhelicopter.textron.com - -- Later, Damian - -- Later, Damian [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT0003411.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT0003722.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT0004033.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT0004344.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT0004655.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT0004966.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT0005277.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT0005588.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:15:49 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! you should be fine... also, you can buy the foot at any parts store in a kit... btw, I always attach a convex mirror on my inside rear view, works great, costs about $8. Kmart had 'em. jc whitney will have them too. john On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Dan Black wrote: >-->john said: >-->{- the XJ and FSJ mirrors are identical... I had one >-->{- of each, but may have sold them on ebay a few years ago... >--> >-->Hmmm, then hopefully I won't have any problem finding a good one at a >-->junkyard. Just haven't had time to go look. I checked Napa, and they >-->were expensive and didn't have any but the smallest in stock (which was >-->smaller than the one in the car now). >--> >-->I'll check when I have time. Thanks! >--> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> The significant problems we are facing can not be solved >--> at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. >--> >--> -- Albert Einstein >-->-------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: New Tire Design I saved them to http://wagoneers.com/tmp file names aren't very descriptive... temporary location... will leave them there for a day or two. john On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Damian Shaver wrote: >-->John, >--> >-->I wanted to pass this along to the list. Didn't know if you would >-->allow pics to come through??? >--> >-->---------- Forwarded message ---------- >-->From: Damian Shaver >-->Date: Jul 25, 2005 9:30 AM >-->Subject: New Tire Design >-->To: Ethan Gingras , "James D. Shafer" >-->, Michael Strong , >-->"Clint Bernatis (E-mail 2)" , Caleb Hanson >-->, Josh Dragseth , Chris Day >--> >--> >--> >-->---------- Forwarded message ---------- >-->From: Damian Shaver >-->Date: Jul 25, 2005 9:23 AM >-->Subject: FW: >-->To: docrhg-at-aol.com, happydentist-at-sbcglobal.net, rudyrogmans-at-yahoo.com, >-->damianshaver-at-gmail.com, jaedeanne-at-hotmail.com >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->From: "Shaver, Mike" >-->To: 'Damian hotmail' , 'Ed Childress' >-->, 'Ed Gowash' , 'Greg >-->Shaver' , 'Jeannette' , 'Larry >-->Bean' , 'Steve Brown' >-->, 'Ted Mynyk' , >-->'Tom Siler' >-->Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:04:51 -0500 >--> >-->New Michelin tire >--> >-->Now this is the wildest thing to come along in a long time! >--> >-->Below are pictures of the new Michelin tires. >--> >-->These tires are airless and are scheduled to be out on the market >-->soon. >--> >-->The bad news for law enforcement is that spike strips will not work >-->on these tires. >--> >--> >-->Michael W. Shaver-->"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> >--> >-->H-1 Upgrade Electrical/Lighting/Avionics >--> >-->Wk: (817) 280-6864 >--> >-->Fax:(817) 278-6864 >--> >-->E-mail: mshaver-at-bellhelicopter.textron.com >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->Later, >--> >-->Damian >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->Later, >--> >-->Damian >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:22:05 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! john said: {- you should be fine... also, you can buy the foot at any parts {- store in a kit... People keep saying this, but I don't think I've ever seen a foot for sale in a store (unless it's part of the whole mirror package). The feet for center mirrors look like something that should be a standard size and shape for all, but aren't. Do you _know_ that all feet are compatible? I have two or three of the glue kits for center mirrors, but never saw any with a foot. {- btw, I always attach a convex mirror on my inside rear view, works {- great, costs about $8. Kmart had 'em. jc whitney will have them {- too. I have those on the '88 (GWag). I think the circular 1.5" ones were about half the price you said, maybe less. I like them on the '88, but I doubt I'll put them on the '74 (Wag) or '96 (Mark VIII). - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My brains are spilling out! -- Marfalump - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:23:12 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: New Tire Design I just noticed that we can't view this directory, I have to figure out how to make Apache 2 work like Apache 1.3. I'll do this at work as we're migrating our systems this way as well... Damian, if you can provide the names of the files with the URL you'll be able to see them. The directory isn't open... 100_2629.MOV ATT0004655.jpg dogearmuffs.jpg seattle-weather.html 100_2631.JPG ATT0004966.jpg jeepfront.JPG traffic_map_seattle_everett_july16_2003.jpg ATT0003411.jpg ATT0005277.jpg jeepseats.JPG walking-ascii.gif ATT0003722.jpg ATT0005588.jpg jeepside.JPG ATT0004033.jpg Chrysler_pic1.jpg README ATT0004344.jpg Cuda seattle-terms.txt like http://wagoneers.com/web/tmp/ATT0003722.jpg john On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, john wrote: >-->I saved them to http://wagoneers.com/tmp file names >-->aren't very descriptive... temporary location... will >-->leave them there for a day or two. >--> >-->john >--> >-->On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Damian Shaver wrote: >--> >-->>-->John, >-->>--> >-->>-->I wanted to pass this along to the list. Didn't know if you would >-->>-->allow pics to come through??? >-->>--> >-->>-->---------- Forwarded message ---------- >-->>-->From: Damian Shaver >-->>-->Date: Jul 25, 2005 9:30 AM >-->>-->Subject: New Tire Design >-->>-->To: Ethan Gingras , "James D. Shafer" >-->>-->, Michael Strong , >-->>-->"Clint Bernatis (E-mail 2)" , Caleb Hanson >-->>-->, Josh Dragseth , Chris Day >-->>--> >-->>--> >-->>--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:54:37 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! A: Are we talking about inside mirrors? NAPA sells complete mirrors in 6", 8", 10" and 12" sizes plus the long one (like I got from John and installed in my J4000. Very nice for when I'm towing!) The "universal" foot only fits the brand it's designed for, as I was disappointed to find out. john said: {- you should be fine... also, you can buy the foot at any parts {- store in a kit... People keep saying this, but I don't think I've ever seen a foot for sale in a store (unless it's part of the whole mirror package). The feet for center mirrors look like something that should be a standard size and shape for all, but aren't. Do you _know_ that all feet are compatible? I have two or three of the glue kits for center mirrors, but never saw any with a foot. {- btw, I always attach a convex mirror on my inside rear view, works {- great, costs about $8. Kmart had 'em. jc whitney will have them {- too. I have those on the '88 (GWag). I think the circular 1.5" ones were about half the price you said, maybe less. I like them on the '88, but I doubt I'll put them on the '74 (Wag) or '96 (Mark VIII). - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My brains are spilling out! - -- Marfalump - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:29:58 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: CO listers, listen up! "Jim Blair" said: {- A: Are we talking about inside mirrors? NAPA sells complete mirrors in 6", {- 8", 10" and 12" sizes plus the long one (like I got from John and installed {- in my J4000. Very nice for when I'm towing!) Their catalog (in the store) said 8", 10", 12". They only had the 8" in stock, and it wasn't even as wide as the stock one in the Mark VIII. I think they were $30 each, too, though it may have only been $20. I'd rather pay $5 at the junk yard and get exactly what I want. {- The "universal" foot only fits {- the brand it's designed for, as I was disappointed to find out. That's what I suspected and was afraid of. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- If a man falls in the forest and there is no woman to hear him, does he still moan like an idiot? -- Debbie Pittman - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:28:03 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: Re: New Tire Design john said: {- I just noticed that we can't view this directory, I have {- to figure out how to make Apache 2 work like Apache 1.3. {- {- I'll do this at work as we're migrating our systems this way {- as well... Damian, if you can provide the names of the {- files with the URL you'll be able to see them. The directory isn't open... {- {- 100_2629.MOV ATT0004655.jpg dogearmuffs.jpg seattle-weather.html {- 100_2631.JPG ATT0004966.jpg jeepfront.JPG traffic_map_seattle_ev {- erett_july16_2003.jpg {- ATT0003411.jpg ATT0005277.jpg jeepseats.JPG walking-ascii.gif {- ATT0003722.jpg ATT0005588.jpg jeepside.JPG {- ATT0004033.jpg Chrysler_pic1.jpg README {- ATT0004344.jpg Cuda seattle-terms.txt {- {- like http://wagoneers.com/web/tmp/ATT0003722.jpg 404. Take out the "web/". Try these. The first one hit, but our campus network connection to the Outside is currently royally screwed. (Oh, and "Cuda" still came up 404. I even tried "Cuda.jpg".) http://wagoneers.com/tmp/100_2629.MOV http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0004655.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/dogearmuffs.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/seattle-weather.html http://wagoneers.com/tmp/100_2631.JPG http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0004966.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/jeepfront.JPG http://wagoneers.com/tmp/traffic_map_seattle_everett_july16_2003.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0003411.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0005277.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/jeepseats.JPG http://wagoneers.com/tmp/walking-ascii.gif http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0003722.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0005588.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/jeepside.JPG http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0004033.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/Chrysler_pic1.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/README http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0004344.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/Cuda http://wagoneers.com/tmp/Cuda.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/seattle-terms.txt Or try here, where you can get a nice list, though as I said, our connection's pretty screwy right now: http://dan.black.org/temp-fsj/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped. -- Elbert Hubbard - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:31:50 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: New Tire Design cuda is a directory... I'll fix all this later, keep the error info coming. :) john On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Dan Black wrote: >-->john said: >-->{- I just noticed that we can't view this directory, I have >-->{- to figure out how to make Apache 2 work like Apache 1.3. >-->{- >-->{- I'll do this at work as we're migrating our systems this way >-->{- as well... Damian, if you can provide the names of the >-->{- files with the URL you'll be able to see them. The directory isn't open... >-->{- >-->{- 100_2629.MOV ATT0004655.jpg dogearmuffs.jpg seattle-weather.html >-->{- 100_2631.JPG ATT0004966.jpg jeepfront.JPG traffic_map_seattle_ev >-->{- erett_july16_2003.jpg >-->{- ATT0003411.jpg ATT0005277.jpg jeepseats.JPG walking-ascii.gif >-->{- ATT0003722.jpg ATT0005588.jpg jeepside.JPG >-->{- ATT0004033.jpg Chrysler_pic1.jpg README >-->{- ATT0004344.jpg Cuda seattle-terms.txt >-->{- >-->{- like http://wagoneers.com/web/tmp/ATT0003722.jpg >--> >-->404. Take out the "web/". Try these. The first one hit, but our >-->campus network connection to the Outside is currently royally screwed. >-->(Oh, and "Cuda" still came up 404. I even tried "Cuda.jpg".) >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/100_2629.MOV >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0004655.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/dogearmuffs.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/seattle-weather.html >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/100_2631.JPG >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0004966.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/jeepfront.JPG >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/traffic_map_seattle_everett_july16_2003.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0003411.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0005277.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/jeepseats.JPG >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/walking-ascii.gif >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0003722.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0005588.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/jeepside.JPG >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0004033.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/Chrysler_pic1.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/README >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/ATT0004344.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/Cuda >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/Cuda.jpg >-->http://wagoneers.com/tmp/seattle-terms.txt >--> >-->Or try here, where you can get a nice list, though as I said, our >-->connection's pretty screwy right now: >-->http://dan.black.org/temp-fsj/ >--> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped. >--> >--> -- Elbert Hubbard >-->-------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:44:48 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] Tips on Replacing A/C Condenser (124)? JB the older I get the more I realize that time can actually be spent by moving stuff completely out of the way... I watch good mechanics do this all the time and think to myself, why bother? I can wiggle in there... and then I realize that I've taken much longer to do the job and drop stuff down in crevices and so on... sometimes it's just easier and quicker to remove stuff... When doing the fuel injectors on the '92 XJ 4.0L I removed the stuff in the way and it went a lot faster... you know, I think Mr. Murphy watches to see if we take short cuts... :) if we do, he tries to help. :) john On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, J.B. Hebert wrote: > -->I will be swapping out the A/C condenser in my '95 E300D soon. The process > -->looks pretty straight forward, but I was currious if the radiator has to be > -->completely removed (per the manual) or if it could be unclipped and tipped > -->enough to allow the condenser to slip out. If I have to drain and remove > -->the radiator completely, it obviously adds a significant amount of time and > -->effort to the job. Can anyone who as done this chime in on the radiator > -->issue? I'm pretty sure it's the same process on all '89 and later 124 > -->chassis cars with the double aux. fans. Are there any other gotchas to > -->worry about? > --> > -->Thanks. > --> > --> > -->J.B. Hebert > --> > -->---------------------------------------------- > -->Current Vehicles: > --> > -->'76 Ford Bronco > -->'78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 > -->'80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe > -->'82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) > -->'93 GMC Sierra 2500 > -->'95 Mercedes E300D > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2481 **************************