From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Feb 19 21:38:27 2006 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, February 21 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2591 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: 229 to 219 swap Re: fsj: update to welding in custom patch panels Re: fsj: update to welding in custom patch panels fsj: colors of jeeps (was neal's panels) fsj: my car parts... Re: fsj: 229 to 219 swap Re: fsj: 229 to 219 swap fsj: a Saturday drive fsj: more proof ... (snohomish mold/moss) fsj: MN j-truck on ebay Re: fsj: update to welding in custom patch panels FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:08:24 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: 229 to 219 swap hey, if the case is the same dimension, and I think it is, then it's a simple (relatively speaking) matter of dropping the driveshafts, disconnecting the linkage, unbolting the transmission from the xfr case(there will be one bolt up on top that will be a bit of a pain to get to), supporting the transmission with a jack, then dropping the cross member. six bolts tranny to transfer case eight bolts drivelines to couplers four bolts cross member to frame linkage don't forget the vent line, it'll be bolted to the body... If I had a better memory I could tell you what size wrenches to crawl underneath with... 1/2", 9/16", 7/16"(driveline? or is it 10mm, or smaller?) If it's metric, 13mm, 14mm, 10 or 12mm for the u-joints.. ) are you sure you can't find a garage to do this in??? the top bolt on the xfr case to the transmission could result in frostbite... ;) john On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Brett Lobajeski wrote: > -->OK, thanks for the previous replies! I found a 219 transfer case to replace > -->the broken229, I just have to "Get it off the pile". It will cost nothing, > -->so I'm inclined to use it. It's going in my 85 GW that gets about 100 miles > -->put on it a year. Mostly doing this > -->http://dansalton.smugmug.com/photos/18041722-M.jpg Just copy and paste the > -->link into your browser bar. I use it for plowing motorcycle ice race tracks > -->on frozen Lake Winnebago, so the full time 4WD doesn't bother me too much. > -->However, it is currently -4 degrees F. out, and out is where I'm doin the > -->swap! If someone could detail the "minor mods" or give me link to where I > -->could find these mods, that would be swell. I'd like to make this as > -->painless as possible, and seeing as how I'm unemployed as of Monday, buying > -->anything more than a couple qts. of oil is out of the question. > --> > -->Thanks alot! > -->Brett in WI > --> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:12:36 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: update to welding in custom patch panels nice work neal... but don't despair on how long it's been, you've not been at it that long... SuperDawg has been in work since I bought him in '99... and has been currently in multiple pieces since Spring of 2001... I tried the Stone White on the '48 CJ-2A, it's nice, would look ok on the '83 J10 stepside (aka superdawg in case you've forgotten or have tuned in late), but since we sold the '99 laredo that was white, I've decided to go with the color of the other '99 laredo WJ that we stil have, BRIGHT PLATINUM METALLIC, the brochure for that year says the stripe is LIGHT QUARTZ. I really like the color of the latest WJ, superdawg will look superb that way... I can hardly wait... john On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->i spent this past weekend welding in the patch panels i made for my j-truck >-->bed. pics are posted here... >-->http://community.webshots.com/album/175759714oUyqwP/2 >-->this is a direct link to the 3rd page in the album, so you can go backwards >-->in the album to see the history of it if interested. >-->anyway, i'm really happy with the results! i had my painter come over >-->yesterday and he's planning on getting started with paint prep in TWO >-->WEEKS!!!! man, has this been a long time coming. i'm getting really >-->excited to see this thing in one color. HA! then, it's a matter of piecing >-->the entire truck back together to get her on the road! >--> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->Project '96 XJ >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:33:21 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: update to welding in custom patch panels thanks, but 2 1/2 years is still a bit long in my book. ;) i like the Stone White in the 2A. goes well. i think i'm gunna go with a "true" blue jeep color (can't remember the color name) that i had on my '95 XJ. '95 was the only year jeep used that particular color, which makes it very rare. plus i LOVED that color and look forward to having it again, but this time on my j-truck. Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Neal Hoover" Cc: ; Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:12 PM Subject: Re: fsj: update to welding in custom patch panels > nice work neal... but don't despair on how long it's been, > you've not been at it that long... > > SuperDawg has been in work since I bought him in '99... and has > been currently in multiple pieces since Spring of 2001... > > I tried the Stone White on the '48 CJ-2A, it's nice, would look > ok on the '83 J10 stepside (aka superdawg in case you've forgotten > or have tuned in late), but since we sold the '99 laredo that was > white, I've decided to go with the color of the other '99 laredo WJ > that we stil have, BRIGHT PLATINUM METALLIC, the brochure for that > year says the stripe is LIGHT QUARTZ. I really like the color of > the latest WJ, superdawg will look superb that way... I can hardly > wait... > > john > > On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Neal Hoover wrote: > > >-->i spent this past weekend welding in the patch panels i made for my j-truck > >-->bed. pics are posted here... > >-->http://community.webshots.com/album/175759714oUyqwP/2 > >-->this is a direct link to the 3rd page in the album, so you can go backwards > >-->in the album to see the history of it if interested. > >-->anyway, i'm really happy with the results! i had my painter come over > >-->yesterday and he's planning on getting started with paint prep in TWO > >-->WEEKS!!!! man, has this been a long time coming. i'm getting really > >-->excited to see this thing in one color. HA! then, it's a matter of piecing > >-->the entire truck back together to get her on the road! > >--> > >-->Neal A. Hoover > >-->Project '76 J-10 > >-->Project '96 XJ > >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:44:34 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: colors of jeeps (was neal's panels) I'll go see if I have a '95 Brochure in my office, will let you know the color if I have it... john On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->thanks, but 2 1/2 years is still a bit long in my book. ;) >--> >-->i like the Stone White in the 2A. goes well. >-->i think i'm gunna go with a "true" blue jeep color (can't remember the color >-->name) that i had on my '95 XJ. '95 was the only year jeep used that >-->particular color, which makes it very rare. plus i LOVED that color and >-->look forward to having it again, but this time on my j-truck. >--> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->Project '96 XJ >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >--> >--> >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->From: "john" >-->To: "Neal Hoover" >-->Cc: ; >-->Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:12 PM >-->Subject: Re: fsj: update to welding in custom patch panels >--> >--> >-->> nice work neal... but don't despair on how long it's been, >-->> you've not been at it that long... >-->> >-->> SuperDawg has been in work since I bought him in '99... and has >-->> been currently in multiple pieces since Spring of 2001... >-->> >-->> I tried the Stone White on the '48 CJ-2A, it's nice, would look >-->> ok on the '83 J10 stepside (aka superdawg in case you've forgotten >-->> or have tuned in late), but since we sold the '99 laredo that was >-->> white, I've decided to go with the color of the other '99 laredo WJ >-->> that we stil have, BRIGHT PLATINUM METALLIC, the brochure for that >-->> year says the stripe is LIGHT QUARTZ. I really like the color of >-->> the latest WJ, superdawg will look superb that way... I can hardly >-->> wait... >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->i spent this past weekend welding in the patch panels i made for my >-->j-truck >-->> >-->bed. pics are posted here... >-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/album/175759714oUyqwP/2 >-->> >-->this is a direct link to the 3rd page in the album, so you can go >-->backwards >-->> >-->in the album to see the history of it if interested. >-->> >-->anyway, i'm really happy with the results! i had my painter come over >-->> >-->yesterday and he's planning on getting started with paint prep in TWO >-->> >-->WEEKS!!!! man, has this been a long time coming. i'm getting really >-->> >-->excited to see this thing in one color. HA! then, it's a matter of >-->piecing >-->> >-->the entire truck back together to get her on the road! >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->> >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->> >-->Project '96 XJ >-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >-->> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:13:10 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: my car parts... talked to my friend this morning, seems that he put some of the parts up with a later start time, that's why some of those numbers were bogus. Here's an easier link to find the parts: http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmissionmarket I'm sure he'll be trickling them up a little at a time. FWIW, the shipping on the dash assembly isn't $18, it's supposed to be "calculate". :) I noticed that two of the 123 tail light assy's are up there. He hasn't started with the Jeep parts yet... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:41:57 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: Re: fsj: 229 to 219 swap Get a big tarp to cover it and put lights underneath for warmth. I tucked mine into the back doors and across to avoid covering the gas tank so there were no fumes to deal with. ~~build your truck right the first time!~~ _________________________________________________________________ Don^Rt just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:58:40 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: 229 to 219 swap that's a good idea... set the tarps and shovel snow against them... that way you're isolated in 32 degree environment! hey, it's not an FSJ, it's an igloo. ;) john On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Jim Blair wrote: > -->Get a big tarp to cover it and put lights underneath for warmth. I tucked > -->mine into the back doors and across to avoid covering the gas tank so there > -->were no fumes to deal with. > --> > -->~~build your truck right the first time!~~ ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 22:05:43 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: a Saturday drive http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2006/Seattle-Saturday-18Feb06/ALL.html john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:45:16 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: more proof ... (snohomish mold/moss) my sig file makes a claim... this picture proves it. ;) snohomish, where jeeps don't rust, they mold... (or grow moss...) (serious, this is from the white '99 WJ Laredo...) http://wagoneers.com/WJ/JohnsWJs-Feb06/snohomish-wj.jpg ---- other pictures... http://wagoneers.com/WJ/JohnsWJs-Feb06/99laredo-4.7.jpg http://wagoneers.com/WJ/JohnsWJs-Feb06/99laredo-4.7_1.jpg noticed some condensation in the headlight assy, wondering where it's leaking: http://wagoneers.com/WJ/JohnsWJs-Feb06/99laredo-4.7_2.jpg http://wagoneers.com/WJ/JohnsWJs-Feb06/99laredo-4.7_3.jpg http://wagoneers.com/WJ/JohnsWJs-Feb06/jeep.jpg before the white '99 went away, we had a little snow... http://wagoneers.com/WJ/JohnsWJs-Feb06/14feb06-wjs-1.jpg http://wagoneers.com/WJ/JohnsWJs-Feb06/14feb06-wjs-2.jpg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:58:49 CST From: Dan Black Subject: fsj: MN j-truck on ebay White J-Truck in MN. 1982, 4x4, step-side, 104Kmi. Really nice exterior and interior. Probably re-done somewhere along the way, I dunno. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AMC-J10-1982-JEEP-J10-J-10-STEP-SIDE-4x4-COLLECTOR-CLEAN-WOW_W0QQitemZ4614610360QQcategoryZ5357QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Missing" socks don't disappear at all. Socks go through a chrysalis stage, one sock inside another, while you're asleep at night. Then the inside sock emerges, just before you wake up, as a metal coat hanger. - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:34:01 -0600 From: JeepNut Subject: Re: fsj: update to welding in custom patch panels I'm jealous of your skills... lol... I see rust and I get all freaked out, it's like a death sentence to me 'cause it's something that I can't fix. What I need is for one of these kids to become a bodyman...LOL... It's lookin' pretty good Neal, keep after it.... Neal Hoover wrote: >i spent this past weekend welding in the patch panels i made for my j-truck >bed. pics are posted here... >http://community.webshots.com/album/175759714oUyqwP/2 >this is a direct link to the 3rd page in the album, so you can go backwards >in the album to see the history of it if interested. >anyway, i'm really happy with the results! i had my painter come over >yesterday and he's planning on getting started with paint prep in TWO >WEEKS!!!! man, has this been a long time coming. i'm getting really >excited to see this thing in one color. HA! then, it's a matter of piecing >the entire truck back together to get her on the road! > >Neal A. Hoover >Project '76 J-10 >Project '96 XJ >http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > > > - -- Email is subject to change without notice Do not hold in hand! Light Email and get away! 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