From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Jul 4 21:04:08 2006 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, July 5 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2666 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: RE: smart cars crash test fsj: colors and such Re: fsj: colors and such Re: fsj: colors and such fsj: fallen warrior... ERAU graduate... fsj: of Jeepsters and Marlins... happy 4th... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:51:12 +0000 From: "michel balea" Subject: fsj: RE: smart cars crash test I will pass being in the smart on a canyon road like we have here in the city.... wo the guard rails..... being tossed alive like a ping pong ball in a smart down the ocean..... i'll keep the big wheel base. Also, noticed that the windows are rolled down.... not to scare you of seeing those pretty faces being smashed onto the glass..... years ago.... i test drove a subaru and upon pulling from the lot looking backward.... my face touched the window..... that did it..... cheers Michel 74 wag From: john Reply-To: john To: Andreas Kreft CC: diesel-benz list Subject: fsj: Re: [db] Re: smart cars crash test Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 12:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Andreas, Thanx for the translation and explanation, very helpful! 65km/h is approximately 40.38913 mph give or take a few decimal places... That's a pretty decent rate... Would not want to be in a Honda for such a crash. john On Sat, 1 Jul 2006, Andreas Kreft wrote: Am S|nnavend 01 Juli 2006 06:22, hest Du schrieven: > very interesting... > > http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C8232/ > > the structural integrity is impressive... I wish the guy hadn't > been speaking so quickly, I couldn't understand all that he was > saying, maybe someone in Europe can translate... I'll listen to There's a pretty accurate translation at http://www.whnet.com/4x4/crashes.html "We have a mass ratio of about 1 to over 2 and for the Smart this is already a very heavy collision. It corresponds to a velocity of far over 70 km/h. This is already very fast and very hard. - The Smart only fell over after, after the potentially dangerous events. That it came to a rest on its side may of course make it more difficult to rescue potentially injured passengers." > it a few more times... I was trying to hear how fast they were > going but the background noise made it hard to for me tounderstand... :) Both cars were going 65 km/h. > The S class didn't do so well... of course bouncing around like > a ping pong ball probably didn't feel too good either. :) The S class did exactly as Mercedes intended it. We have zillions of microcars (way shorter than four meters) around in Europe. Nowadays they have a quite stiff body structure, because they are too short to have a serious energy-absorbing crumple zone. That's why our big rigs like the 5 series, E/S class, A6/A8 - even a Passat is considered a huge car here - have a relatively soft crumple zone to give the occupants of a microcar a fair chance to survive in a crash. Actually, Mercedes proudly advertised this behaviour as "Kompatibilitdt", compatibility, when the W220 was introduced. I appreciate this. My personal ride was our family's 1988 VW Golf before I bought my W124, and luckily I once crashed into a Honda Civic, but not into a, say, W140 or an aluminium-made Audi A8. But on the other hand, if you buy a car that weighs two tons and is longer than five meters, you (and I) want it to be rock-solid but not wimpy. > amazing... I wonder what the end result was for all the passengers > involved... anyone know? They claim that the S class passengers could simply step out of the car after the crash, find themselves absolutely uninjured and call an ambulance for the guys in the Smart who would have suffered some major internal injuries. Still, they should have been able to survive. Andreas - -- Confidant, confidante, n: One entrusted by A with the secrets of B, confided to himself by C. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 12:37:26 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: colors and such curtis painted one of my tonka trucks as a prototype for superdawg... the flakes are a bit large for the tonka but should look splendid on an FSJ... also looking for a plaque for my '91 GW... and I'm not sure Red is the best color for a '68 Jeepster Commando... :) http://www.wagoneers.com/john/3july06-misc/ john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 15:58:29 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: colors and such john said: {- http://www.wagoneers.com/john/3july06-misc/ I like the custom rear panels with the speaker bits. :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How many roads must a man travel down before he admits he is lost? - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 14:29:23 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: colors and such yeah, think I grabbed that from an ebay ad, like it... john On Mon, 3 Jul 2006, Dan Black wrote: >-->john said: >-->{- http://www.wagoneers.com/john/3july06-misc/ >--> >-->I like the custom rear panels with the speaker bits. :) >--> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> How many roads must a man travel down before he admits he is lost? >-->-------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 15:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: fallen warrior... ERAU graduate... While searching for info on my '68 Jeepster Commando I found this info about a recent Embry Riddle Aeronautical U graduate (I'm working on my MSTM at ERAU) who was commissioned and serving in Iraq. This young man was the same age as my son, who is currently serving in the USAF... Thought I'd share this with you... In Memory of Lt. John "Hurc" Vaughan http://www.jeepstercommandoclub.com/ http://www.jeepstercommandoclub.com/hurcpage2.htm June 8, 2006 news articles http://www.jeepstercommandoclub.com/hurcnews1.htm http://www.jeepstercommandoclub.com/hurcnews3.htm One of his wheeling adventures: http://www.jeepstercommandoclub.com/images/hurc1.jpg http://www.jeepstercommandoclub.com/images/125.jpg http://www.jeepstercommandoclub.com/images/132.jpg http://www.jeepstercommandoclub.com/images/hurc_2_163.jpg ======================================================================== John Meister ======================================================================== ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 21:03:30 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: of Jeepsters and Marlins... happy 4th... Happy 4th of July... it rained in Snohomish today... couldn't break the tradition. :) The Jeepster made it home safely... thank you Brian! http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/68-Jeepster/ALL.html Brian's Marlin: http://wagoneers.com/fotos/MISC-cars/Brians-Marlin/ALL.html a few other Marlin's from an AMC gathering in 2000. http://wagoneers.com/fotos/MISC-cars/July22-2000-AMC-n-PacificCoast/ WANTED PARTS: - stock rims for '48 CJ-2A - parking brake assembly for the '48 CJ-2A - stock rims for '68 Jeepster - adapter ring for Buick 225 V6 to TH400 - rear add-a-leafs for the Jeepster. :) - new steering wheel for the Jeepster - door and tailgate locks for the Jeepster - half cab for the Jeepster - soft or bikini top for the Jeepster Had a great weekend/holiday... took the 300D over to Leavenworth on Sunday. My buddy got the 4.0L running in his CJ-7, he used my '92 XJ to get it going. Saturday I gathered up a bunch of FSJ tail lenses and one or two grilles... and, I've even been working on my homework... which I should do now... :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2666 **************************