From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Oct 1 20:01:37 2006 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, October 2 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2709 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: reasons NOT to salt roads fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: dreamin' diesels and jeeps... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:22:54 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: reasons NOT to salt roads I recall something like this happened on I-95 and the analysis showed corrosion of the pins caused by road salts and poor maintenance, can't remember when or where it happened... but considering the damage caused by corrosive road de-icing agents it surely must be a contributing factor... - ------------------------ On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Darren K. Page wrote: They're not sure if it was due to salt, but that overpass was apparently built by the same contractor that built one over Highway 15 that fell in 2000. More or less the same scenario, one person died. The coroner's inquest that was released in 2003 stated that it was faulty construction and engineering. Now they are saying that the same company built this one. Time will tell as to what the cause was. Terrible, useless tragedy. The roads here are already crap, and the provincial government keeps cutting back on the maintenance budget. Noneteless, they have these huge reconstruction projects everywhere causing huge tie-ups, but they neglect the basics... We had one highway where the exits were on the left with a merge on the left immediately before it. They decided that it was too dangerous even though everyone was used to it, and rebuilt the whole thing. They've been working on it for 3 years now... In another part of town, the province decided to revamp another interchange, but after 3 years of work, when it was finished, we had a huge rainstorm and flash flooding, the brand new interchange was in 6-feet of water... The drainage wass not sufficient for what they built, and it is still like that. They said on the radio that today's overpass had no visible signs of damage or cracks, it apparently failed from the insideout... We'll see... Some people reported chunks of concrete falling from it an hour before. >From the CBC: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/09/30/overpass-collapse.html "The collapse is not the first in the Laval area. In 2000, a large segment of an overpass on Highway 15 collapsed, killing one motorist instantly and trapping two others for several hours. A coroner's report later concluded a construction company didn't properly secure the concrete beams, and accused the province's construction industry of shoddy work and questionable corporate practices." >From CTV: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060930/overpass_collap se_060930/20060930?hub=TopStories You can see the motorcycle that fell with it... >From Global TV: http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=4aba69d2-0e1f-401d-b93c-1d41 fe86c01f&k=64917 More on the original company in the first accident and the coroner's report... I am still looking for confirmation that the second on that fell today was built by the same company, but that's what they said on the radio... I'll keep looking. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Darren K. Page Montreal, Qc dkpage at videotron.ca - -----Original Message----- From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:03 PM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: xj: reasons NOT to salt roads http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,216877,00.html ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 06:15:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 20:00:16 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: dreamin' diesels and jeeps... ...instead of doing homework... ;) thought there was supposed to be a Diesel version of the GC coming out, the WK... if it weren't for it's hideous looks, independent front suspension and price tag... still planning on a 6.2L in my '91 GW... waiting... was supposed to happen end of September, now it's the end of October, which means it won't be ready in time for the trip to Vegas... :( but that's ok, I took a WJ to the big SJ fest in 2002, I'm getting used to being in the wrong model. :) in the meantime I'm making progress on my '48 cj-2a... picked up a '47 cj-2a with a good flathead engine, pto, and so on... will swap out the driveline and make it all stock, put the left over pieces in the '47 and sell it to cover costs and then some... the proposed final fleet is the '99 wj, '91 sj, '48 cj-2a, and '83 sj There is still the temptation to keep the '91 300D, 30mpg in town is tempting, if it weren't for Rube Goldberg's influence in the climate controls and the miserable seats it's a great car... back to homework... :) john - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.7L V8/45RFE/NV 247 (Quadradrive) http://wagoneers.com/fotos/SouthDakota_2006/WJ-lightning.jpg http://wagoneers.com/WJ/JohnsWJs-Feb06/99laredo-4.7.jpg - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer was 5.9/727/np229 --> 6.2L/700R4/NP 219 or NP 208... driveline in work... http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1991-GW-White/17may06.jpg - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1948 Willys CJ-2A 2.0L/T90/Spicer 18 http://wagoneers.com/Willys/48-CJ-2A/ 1947 Willys CJ-2A 2.0L/T90/Spicer 18 (for sale when '48 CJ-2A complete) http://wagoneers.com/Willys/47-CJ-2A/ - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1975 Jeep J10 Bed/trailer hydraulic dump http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/J10-trailer/ - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside was 4.2L I-6/T-5/NP208 --> 4.0 or repl 4.2, or ??? http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/superdawg-2005/ALL.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1991 Mercedes 300D 2.5L Turbo Diesel/AT (for sale after GW complete) http://JohnMeister.com/DieselBenz/CARS/91-300d-2.5L/ - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2709 **************************