From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Jul 5 16:32:53 2007 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Thursday, July 5 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2880 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Happy 4th! and Willys for sale (not mine!) fsj: OT? need vehicle, <2K - Seattle RE: fsj: OT? need vehicle, <2K - Seattle fsj: Re: Jed Perna's GW RE: fsj: Re: Jed Perna's GW fsj: OT - what vehicles to avoid... fsj: Head Restraints Founder in Crash Tests (fwd) FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:00:07 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: Happy 4th! and Willys for sale (not mine!) Happy (and safe/sane) 4th of July to everyone! I was perusing Craig's list agin and tripped over this number. Probably not a Chev 6 unless someone swapped it in. http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/365820728.html 1962 Jeep Willeys Wagon for Sale - $400 Reply to: sale-365820728-at-craigslist.org Date: 2007-07-03, 10:56AM PDT 1962 Jeep Willey Wagon for sale $400 obo. Has title, Chevy 6 cylinder, extra front fenders, for parts or restorable, need gone ASAP. Cash talks. We purchased for a project and have not been able to get to it. Please call for more details at 425-314-3354, Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 15:15:06 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: OT? need vehicle, <2K - Seattle daughter's car passed away this afternoon... heat stroke more than likely, it was almost 80 degrees today... anyway, beer budget, champagne tastes... (runs in the family)... needs an automatic... I'm trying to steer her towards a Mercedes Diesel or Jeep Cherokee... she's migrating out of my territory and looking at things like Sables and Ultimas and other odd looking little cars that appear to me to be death traps... she has a short commute so she should be safe even on a bicycle... anyway, if you know of any decent, clean, automatic vehicles for well under $3k let me know... thanx, john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:41:03 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: RE: fsj: OT? need vehicle, <2K - Seattle Why not steer her into a Ford Maverick? (J/K I haven't had time to get over there yet. People keep stealing my time off. Wife decided it was "time together" day today and canceled all my other plans. Yesterday I picked up my buddy's big trailer to haul off the carcass of the '73 J4000 and the '85 XJ 2 dr (parts are still available till it's chopped up tomorrow!) What kind of car was her now deceased one? I found a Peugeot turbo diesel and several Jags for less than $1000 on Craig's list. (looking at a turbo diesel swap to an XJ using the front 1/2 of the '85 as a mockup. I still would like to craft the longer A to B pillar onto an MJ to make a club cab!) John wrote: daughter's car passed away this afternoon... heat stroke more than likely, it was almost 80 degrees today... anyway, beer budget, champagne tastes... (runs in the family)... needs an automatic... I'm trying to steer her towards a Mercedes Diesel or Jeep Cherokee... she's migrating out of my territory and looking at things like Sables and Ultimas and other odd looking little cars that appear to me to be death traps... she has a short commute so she should be safe even on a bicycle... anyway, if you know of any decent, clean, automatic vehicles for well under $3k let me know... thanx, john ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:20:45 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Jed Perna's GW wow, that's a beauty... http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/jeds-grand-wagoneer/ ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, Terry Halmshaw wrote: # John: # # This truck belongs to a good friend of mine, the very same man # I bought that immaculate gold DL series from. # # This machine will come to me to have a few items that most Aussie # mechanics would not have a clue about. # # Truck belongs to Jed Perna. # # He would love to see it on wagoneers.com # # Terry # IMG_4763.jpg # # # # Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or # receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to # determine how attachments are handled. # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:26:14 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Jed Perna's GW Nice! Those are the same rims I have for sale (not in quite as good shape as those, but not bad) _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:55:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: OT - what vehicles to avoid... ok, car shopping tonight... daughter's '91 grand am is tango uniform... (tummy up), getting it towed home today, suspect it's terminal... she's ready for a "new" car anyway... so, she is not eager to buy a Jeep or a Mercedes Diesel, wants a 4dr, Automatic and AC... she's got a budget that caps out at $3k. So far Escorts have been recommended... I know nothing about cars except for the aforementioned Jeeps and Mercedes Diesels... I have seen too many fatal accidents with Hondas and suspect that to be the case with any of the smaller asian vehicles... whatever she buys will more than likely end up in "dad's" shop, probably alongside her deceased grand am... I'm looking at autotrader as I get time... need to look in the Everett-North Seattle area, she's ready to buy... I should be doing homework, instead I'm out inspecting vehicles... seeking the wisdom of the list and friends... recommendations are welcome, but more importantly, what cars to totally avoid... thanx, john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:27:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Head Restraints Founder in Crash Tests (fwd) fyi ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent from Express News WASHINGTON - Head restraints in dozens of sport utility vehicles, pickup trucks and minivans provided only poor or marginal protection from neck injuries in simulated crashes conducted by the insurance industry. The test results released Tuesday found several SUVs had improved protections against whiplash injuries but gave poor marks to vehicles made by several leading automakers, including BMW AG, DaimlerChrysler AG, Ford Motor Co., General Motors Corp., Nissan Motor Co. and Toyota Motor Corp. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety said the simulated rear crashes at 20 miles per hour showed that many large vehicles fall short in protecting against neck injuries, which lead to 2 million insurance claims a year costing at least $8.5 billion. "In stop-and-go commuter traffic, you're more likely to get in a rear-end collision than any other crash type," said Institute vice president David Zuby. "It's not a major feat of engineering to design seats and head restraints that afford good protection in these common crashes." The institute evaluated 87 current vehicle models based on the geometric measurements of the head restraints and their performance in a crash simulation sled. Fifty-four of the vehicles were rated marginal or poor, the two lowest rankings, while a dozen received the second-highest score of acceptable. Twenty-one received the best rating of good. Automakers said there were many ways to evaluate rear crash protection and their vehicles were designed to provide a high degree of safety. "We feel our test procedures are good predictors of how well our seat/head restraints will protect occupants from neck injuries in the event of a rear impact," said Toyota spokesman Bill Kwong in an e-mail. Several SUVs made progress - 17 of 59 SUVs from the 2007 model year received top ratings in the testing, compared with six of 44 SUVs tested in 2006. The best performers among 2007 SUVs included: Acura MDX and RDX; Lincoln MKX, Ford Edge and Ford Freestyle; Honda CR-V, Element and Pilot; Hyundai Santa Fe; Jeep Grand Cherokee; Kia Sorento; Land Rover LR3; Mercedes M Class; Mitsubishi Outlander; Subaru B9 Tribeca and Forester, and Volvo XC90. SUVs from the 2007 model year rated poorly were: BMW X3 and X5; Buick Rainier, Chevrolet TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy and Isuzu Ascender; Cadillac SRX; Chrysler Pacifica; Dodge Nitro; Ford Explorer and Mercury Mountaineer; Mitsubishi Endeavor; Hummer H3; Hyundai Tucson; Jeep Liberty; Kia Sportage; Lexus GX470 and RX; Nissan Xterra; Saab 9-7X; Suzuki XL7; Toyota 4Runner and Highlander. In other vehicle categories, the 2007 Toyota Tundra was the only pickup to receive the top score. Three minivans received the highest marks: Ford Freestar, Hyundai Entourage and the Kia Sedona. For pickups, the institute gave poor ratings to Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Classic and the GMC Sierra 1500 Classic; Dodge Ram 1500; Ford Ranger and Mazda B Series; Nissan Frontier and certain versions of Ford F-150, Dodge Dakota and Mitsubishi Raider. Minivans scoring poorly were the Buick Terraza, Chevrolet Uplander and Saturn Relay; some versions of the Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Caravan; and the Toyota Sienna. Another group of SUVs, pickups and minivans received either the second-lowest score of marginal or the second-highest rating of acceptable. A complete listing was available on the institute's Web site. Several automakers defended their methods of testing for rear crash protection. DaimlerChrysler noted that many of the vehicles were designed before the Institute began conducting the tests. General Motors said head restraints are designed for a variety of driver sizes and the restraints "are part of the integrated approach to occupant protection in all GM vehicles." Nissan said in a statement that it designs "all of our products to provide a high level of occupant safety in a wide range of real-world crashes, including rear-impact collisions." The crash simulation sled replicates the forces in a stationary vehicle that is struck in the rear by a similar vehicle at 20 mph. Vehicles got a higher rating if the head restraint contacted the dummy's head quickly and the forces on the dummy's neck and the acceleration of the torso were low. The tests also consider the height of the restraint and its horizontal distance behind the back of the head of an average-size man. - --- By KEN THOMAS Associated Press Writer ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2880 **************************