From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Jul 24 10:21:36 2007 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, July 24 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2890 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Transmission swapping and measurements fsj: Re: Transmission swapping and measurements fsj: what's this all about? fsj: Re: what's this all about? fsj: have winch, but no jeep :( RE: fsj: have winch, but no jeep :( RE: fsj: have winch, but no jeep :( fsj: RE: [db] what's this all about? fsj: Re: [db] what's this all about? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:32:31 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: Transmission swapping and measurements I'm about to swap in an AW4 in place of the T5 in my '83 J10. The 4x4 T5 is out (and on my parts for sale pile. The 3rd and first synchros are welded to the shaft from lack of oil if the T-5 trans guru is right as usual) and I have the measurements of the trannies side by side. T5 4x4 trans from bellhousing lip to tcase flange is 21.75" AW4 4x4 trans is 25 1/4" AW4 2wd trans is 30" to the seal flange and 33" to approx where the Ujoint should ride. I'll add the 999 2wd auto measurements when I drop mine out. I can't access the 727 or 904 4x4 trans at the moment, but I'll add that as well (IIRC, it was within an inch of the T5) I'll be taking my camera with me tomorrow when I go to work on it (wish I had another pair of hands to help me lift the trans into place on the J10. I can lift it fine even though I'm much weaker than I used to be, but aligning it and putting in a bolt at the same time is tough) _________________________________________________________________ http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtextlinkjuly07 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:49:53 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Transmission swapping and measurements take pictures... and notes... will build a web page, thinking of doing this with my j10 as well... :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Jim Blair wrote: # I'm about to swap in an AW4 in place of the T5 in my '83 J10. The 4x4 T5 is # out (and on my parts for sale pile. The 3rd and first synchros are welded to # the shaft from lack of oil if the T-5 trans guru is right as usual) and I # have the measurements of the trannies side by side. # # T5 4x4 trans from bellhousing lip to tcase flange is 21.75" # # AW4 4x4 trans is 25 1/4" # # AW4 2wd trans is 30" to the seal flange and 33" to approx where the Ujoint # should ride. # # I'll add the 999 2wd auto measurements when I drop mine out. I can't access # the 727 or 904 4x4 trans at the moment, but I'll add that as well (IIRC, it # was within an inch of the T5) # # I'll be taking my camera with me tomorrow when I go to work on it (wish I had # another pair of hands to help me lift the trans into place on the J10. I can # lift it fine even though I'm much weaker than I used to be, but aligning it # and putting in a bolt at the same time is tough) # # _________________________________________________________________ # http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtextlinkjuly07 # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:38:48 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: what's this all about? got this from a retired engineer friend.. I'm watching the video right now... not sure what to make of it... ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: STAN R ROZYCKI http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/custom/info_windows/picc.html http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/home.php?partner=bruiser&bid=2 srr Stan R Rozycki - Seattle, Washington, USA. phone and fax [country code: 1] (425) 335-5691 Home pages: http://www.knowtheworld.net/ http://www.knowtheworld.net/cascadepages/ Need a Home Page? I can make it for you! Just contact me at: srozycki-at-yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:29:25 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: what's this all about? what do you REALLY think Terry? ;) does seem a bit hokey to me... especially with all the chatter about the government and the oil companies, sounded like a friend of mine who thinks that the world government is behind everything from islam to social security... ;) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, jeepmjw-at-bigpond.com wrote: # It's a con, 30 day warranty come on, they state that they remove # Hydrogen and oxygen from the water, correct me if I'm wrong but # Hydrogen and Oxygen is water, you extract one not the other. # # 13 to 24 % power loss, BS if that was the case we would have # gas running out the pipe. No mention of damage to cylinders # ring lancings, carby or injectors, all of which will suffer at the hands # of water, once Hydrogen is compressed and ignited it returns back # to water, someone should shut this guy down before thousands of # dollars damage is done to unsuspecting buyers. # # Also note that they don't even fit their own item. # # Very dodgey. # # ---------- Forwarded message ---------- # From: STAN R ROZYCKI # # http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/custom/info_windows/picc.html # http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/home.php?partner=bruiser&bid=2 # srr # # Stan R Rozycki - Seattle, Washington, USA. # phone and fax [country code: 1] (425) 335-5691 # Home pages: http://www.knowtheworld.net/ # http://www.knowtheworld.net/cascadepages/ # Just contact me at: srozycki-at-yahoo.com # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:10:04 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: have winch, but no jeep :( through a convoluted, snohomish monster garage transaction, I've got a nice Warn M8000 winch with roller fairlead mounted on a carrier that uses two reciever hitches... http://wagoneers.com/tmp/m8000-1.jpg problem is all four of my full size jeeps aren't here... :( '83 J10 Stepside, aka Superdawg, is in a bazillion pieces in centralia... since 2001 '89 Grand Wagoneer... sitting on the island waiting for me to drag it home... '91 Grand Wagoneer... in the black hole in centralia... was to emerge on May 5, 2007... no word from the proprietor... well, at least not for about a week and a half... '67 J100 Panel... too ugly to be permitted at the house, payment for Superdawgs work to be done by Labor Day 2001... hmmmm... I'm giving serious thought to just buying a nice XJ and selling my benz, waiting for assembly and repair of all the FSJs and selling them off... might be a suitable retirement plan... assembled they will have signficant value in my golden years... :) which aren't as far away as they were when I started this FSJ obsession and project... :) wondering how hard it would be to mount two receiver hitches behind the plastic bumper on the WJ and a late model XJ to take that winch... that way I could move it between them and not have some big ugly brush guard... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:13:03 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: RE: fsj: have winch, but no jeep :( Looks to be about the size I need for my new Jeep. I actually have a chunk of my property that out steeps even your driveway! LOL! Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will like them only Entangle and hold the poor and weak, while the rich and powerful will easily break through them ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC) _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:20:38 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: have winch, but no jeep :( On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Jim Blair wrote: # Looks to be about the size I need for my new Jeep. I actually have a chunk of # my property that out steeps even your driveway! LOL! considering where your property is, I can believe it... my buddy that lives in index proper is at the base of that one cliff, not sure what the elevation is, but it's at least 1,000 feet straight up... :) problem is, this winch only has 100 feet of cable... # # # # Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will # like them only Entangle and hold the poor and # weak, while the rich and powerful will easily # break through them # # ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC) # # _________________________________________________________________ # http://newlivehotmail.com # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:15:06 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: RE: [db] what's this all about? it's laced with just enough buzz words... ah yes, fuel lines into the catalytic converter... and of course pointing the car north for 20 minutes... I forgot about that part... ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Alec Cordova wrote: # Wow! I'm still looking for the indication that they know this is a joke. But # they offer even more "products" with similar claims. Just check their home # page at http://www.aequitastech.com. # # On this PICC, let's see. You replace your catalytic converter with their # device, which is a catalytic converter with fuel lines running through it. # Gee, I think running fuel lines through the interior of my catalytic # converter sounds like a perfectly safe and sane idea. # # I really started laughing when he said that part of the system calibration # routine involved pointing the car north for 20 minutes. And when he got # around to describing how the gasoline, plus whatever else you mix with it, # including Coke or water, turns to "plasma" when going through their device, # he had me convinced. # # Whether it's a conscious joke or not, I really have to wonder how many # people would buy their products. It's a frightening thought. # # Alec Cordova # Taylor, Texas # 89 300CE, 224K, running premium unleaded gasoline exclusively # # > -----Original Message----- # > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john # > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:39 PM # > To: undisclosed-recipients: # > Subject: [db] what's this all about? # > # > # > got this from a retired engineer friend.. # > # > I'm watching the video right now... not sure what to make of it... # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- # > From: STAN R ROZYCKI # > # > http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/custom/info_windows/picc.html # > http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/home.php?partner=bruiser&bid=2 # > srr # > # > Stan R Rozycki - Seattle, Washington, USA. # > phone and fax [country code: 1] (425) 335-5691 # > Home pages: http://www.knowtheworld.net/ # > http://www.knowtheworld.net/cascadepages/ # > Need a Home Page? I can make it for you! # > Just contact me at: srozycki-at-yahoo.com # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:16:45 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] what's this all about? $1200???? yikes... will you see that much economy or power increase? john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: # yeah... been looking at this one : # http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4534&parentid=0&stocknumber=05-36005 # # looks interesting.. ;-) # # On 7/24/07, john wrote: # > water injection sprayed into the intake should work well as long # > as it's not a stream... water doesn't compress as we know... if # > you get too much water you get hydralock and start bending things... :) # > # > a gentle mist to increase the humidity, reduce the temps should # > work fine... # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # Is that water vapour on the way in or the way out? # > # Have been looking at water injection kits (rather than intercooler # > # misting) recently for my Roadster (Miata) turbo to further bring down # > # the temps of the intake charge. It'll be an interesting tuning session # > # mapping the water spray to the fuel map I'd say. # > # # > # On 7/24/07, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # > # > Haven't time to watch the video yet, maybe this is irrelevant, BUT: # > # > # > # > It sounds to me like this is an extension of an age-old effort to get # > # > better vaporization of fuel, and a little water vapor can actually # > # > serve as a catalyst (I've heard.) Plasma not so much. Then again, # > # > those catalytics do get really hot...... Sounds like they mingle # > # > enough science in to make it seem plausible to someone who knows # > # > nothing about cars. # > # > # > # > I'll watch it later and see for myself. # > # > # > # > Jason # > # > # > # > -- Michael Frank wrote: # > # > At 11:38 PM 7/23/2007, you wrote: # > # > >got this from a retired engineer friend.. # > # > > # > # > >I'm watching the video right now... not sure what to make of it... # > # > # > # > You can obtain the same benefits by slaughtering a sheep and packing # > # > the entrails into your engine compartment. # > # > # > # > Mike Frank # > # # > # # > # # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2890 **************************