From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Mar 15 13:03:00 2008 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, March 15 2008 Volume 01 : Number 3029 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: ah yes, spring in Snohomish... fsj: four buck barrier broken. :( fsj: license plate holders fsj: Re: xj: ah yes, spring in Snohomish... fsj: '79 Cherokee - for sale: from Eric Petersen / Coeur d'Alene fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list RE: fsj: license plate holders fsj: FYI RE: fsj: license plate holders fsj: RE: Re: xj: ah yes, spring in Snohomish... fsj: RE: Re: xj: ah yes, spring in Snohomish... fsj: weight of the Detroit Diesel Allison 6.2L Diesel FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:44:31 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: ah yes, spring in Snohomish... my neighbor is planting his garden... expecting a "bumper" crop this year: http://wagoneers.com/fotos/OTHERS_fotos/adventures-in-snohomish-john-clarke-14mar2008.jpg might be time for a Jeep fest... (need to get the new injectors in my '91 Grand Wagoneer... :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:37:38 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: four buck barrier broken. :( http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/03-Mar-14-FourBucks4Diesel/ALL.html also pictures of getting a 40" LCD home in a '91 300D. (saving fuel and not using my Jeep... ;) Creative packaging. :) also, franchise repair shops, just avoid them... because BREAK they do... really... bad news... not only can they not spell correctly, but they aren't too good at actual repairs either... :) at least in my limited but expensive experience with them... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:46:28 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: license plate holders the question: Will the flip up license plate holder from a '60's vintage Wagoneer fit the '91 Grand Wagoneer? :) http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/63_ifs_rice/P1140236.jpg http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/91GW_950/P1060744.jpg john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:25:02 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: xj: ah yes, spring in Snohomish... he got it out. ;) came home and it was sitting next to the driveway, cleaned up and everything. :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, David Bierschank wrote: # lol Bumper crop.... I actually laughed out loud at that one. What a # mess. # Thanks for sharing the photo. # David # # On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, john wrote: # # > my neighbor is planting his garden... # > expecting a "bumper" crop this year: # > # > # > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/OTHERS_fotos/adventures-in-snohomish-john-clarke-14mar2008.jpg # > # > might be time for a Jeep fest... (need # > to get the new injectors in my '91 Grand Wagoneer... :) # > # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:27:20 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: '79 Cherokee - for sale: from Eric Petersen / Coeur d'Alene http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/Eric_Petersen_79_Chero/ ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Eric Petersen wrote: # I was thinking around $5,500....lots of work in it - new ball joints, # new ignition, re-build on the carb...shocks...etc...starts on a # dime...very solid... # # -----Original Message----- # From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] # Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:53 PM # To: Eric Petersen # Subject: Re: from Eric Petersen / Coeur d'Alene # # still looks as nice as ever... what are you asking for it? I will # let my FSJ list know if you're not on it... # # # On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Eric Petersen wrote: # # # John, # # # # Just a fyi - the '79 made it through the winter quite well and I had # # ample opportunity to use the 4WD...works great. Since the last time # I # # write, I installed an electronic ignition and had the carb # # re-built...starts on a dime now. <> <> <> <> <<79 jeep.jpg>> # # # # # I am writing to let you (and your readers) know that it is back on # the # # market! Pictures attached... # # # # # # Eric Petersen # # Vice President, Business Development # # # # Contractors Northwest, Inc. # # www.contractorsnorthwest.com # # # # Coeur d'Alene: Boise: # # t. 208.667.2456 t. 208.362.9656 # # f. 208.667.6388 f. 208.362.9701 # # c. 208.691.7424 # # # # "A body at rest tends to stay at rest and a body in motion tends to # stay # # in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted # # upon by an unbalanced force." # # # # # # ~Newton's First Law of Motion # # # # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:15:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. 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I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:15:46 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: license plate holders It might, but why? Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:46:28 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: rice4pack-at-aol.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: license plate holders > > the question: > > Will the flip up license plate holder from a '60's vintage Wagoneer > fit the '91 Grand Wagoneer? :) > > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/63_ifs_rice/P1140236.jpg > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/91GW_950/P1060744.jpg > > john > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! 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You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:37:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: license plate holders then one can drive with the tailgate down hauling lumber, etc. ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Jim Blair wrote: # It might, but why? # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:46:28 -0700 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: rice4pack-at-aol.com # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: fsj: license plate holders # > # > the question: # > # > Will the flip up license plate holder from a '60's vintage Wagoneer # > fit the '91 Grand Wagoneer? :) # > # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/63_ifs_rice/P1140236.jpg # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/91GW_950/P1060744.jpg # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # _________________________________________________________________ # Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star # power. # http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:47:52 -0700 From: "Joe" Subject: fsj: RE: Re: xj: ah yes, spring in Snohomish... That looked really stuck. How'd he get it out? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:25 PM To: xj-at-digest.net Cc: full size jeep list; diesel-benz list Subject: fsj: Re: xj: ah yes, spring in Snohomish... he got it out. ;) came home and it was sitting next to the driveway, cleaned up and everything. :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, David Bierschank wrote: # lol Bumper crop.... I actually laughed out loud at that one. What a # mess. # Thanks for sharing the photo. # David # # On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, john wrote: # # > my neighbor is planting his garden... # > expecting a "bumper" crop this year: # > # > # > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/OTHERS_fotos/adventures-in-snohomish-john-clarke- 14mar2008.jpg # > # > might be time for a Jeep fest... (need # > to get the new injectors in my '91 Grand Wagoneer... :) # > # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:00:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: RE: Re: xj: ah yes, spring in Snohomish... most likely he lifted it up with the bucket and blade and put logs under it... well first he put logs under the blade and bucket, then lifted... he's done this before. :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Joe wrote: # That looked really stuck. How'd he get it out? # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john # Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:25 PM # To: xj-at-digest.net # Cc: full size jeep list; diesel-benz list # Subject: fsj: Re: xj: ah yes, spring in Snohomish... # # he got it out. ;) # # came home and it was sitting next to the driveway, cleaned up and # everything. :) # # john # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # # On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, David Bierschank wrote: # # # lol Bumper crop.... I actually laughed out loud at that one. What a # # mess. # # Thanks for sharing the photo. # # David # # # # On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, john wrote: # # # # > my neighbor is planting his garden... # # > expecting a "bumper" crop this year: # # > # # > # # > # http://wagoneers.com/fotos/OTHERS_fotos/adventures-in-snohomish-john-clarke- # 14mar2008.jpg # # > # # > might be time for a Jeep fest... (need # # > to get the new injectors in my '91 Grand Wagoneer... :) # # > # # > # # > john # # > # # > ----- # # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # > # # # # # # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:02:13 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: weight of the Detroit Diesel Allison 6.2L Diesel confirmed the weight of the Detroit Diesel Allison 6.2L Diesel 650lbs TM-9-2815-237-24 ...was looking for the torque specs for the new injectors... installing right now... soon as I find the torque setting. ;) found a local shop that will install the new springs for a reasonable amount so I don't have to lay on wet dirt to install... After I get omega on the road the next project is to rebuild the carport... finished teaching for the quarter, got my diploma for my masters in the mail on friday... only other "homework" assignment is taxes... full on for the omega project now... :) ...injectors, finish the wiring, fix the aux tank fuel pickup, lift... WJ seats, stereo... body work... ...then a road trip? :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3029 **************************