From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Jul 14 23:20:24 2008 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, July 15 2008 Volume 01 : Number 3122 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist Re: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist Re: fsj: A/C parts assist Re: fsj: A/C parts assist Re: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist Re: xj: Re: fsj: A/C parts assist Re: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist Re: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:21:36 -0700 From: "Eric Petersen" Subject: RE: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist Why am I copied on all the messages...N ? Eric Eric Petersen Contractors Northwest,Inc. (o) 208-667-2456 (c) 208-691-7424 - -----Original Message----- From: "Neal Hoover" To: "fsj-at-digest.net" Sent: 7/14/08 7:46 PM Subject: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist um... have you tried the Jeep dealership? i know, i avoid them at all costs, too, but..... ;) Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "JeepNut" To: ; Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: fsj: A/C parts assist > Hi all, > I need to replace the service valves on my York compressor in the XJ. > Yes it is a York. I don't like those junk Sanden compressors. Had > too many fail. Or maybe I've just had this XJ for so long it SEEMS like > I've replaced a lot of them... in any case...when I did the custom A/C > work, I had them use an SJ compressor and valve set and have been > happier with the A/C than in many years. > But the old valves are now leaky. My shade-tree A/C guy can pump me > up, but doesn't source parts. > > I found a great website, with lotsa valves, but not sure which ones > are right. > John should like the name of the place... > http://www.omega-usa.com/client/images/Fittings.pdf > > So who knows WHICH valves are stock standard on an SJ of the mid-80's > flavor? > Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:51:14 -0400 From: JeepNut Subject: Re: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist heh, heh, heh, you mean you have a Jeep dealership that even knows what an SJ is?... Might be entertaining to watch them dig that deep into a microfiche file... lol... But heck, I AM a dealership parts counter. I've got parts manuals out the wazoo. And no parts. p/n J813-3190 for the valves and J813-3904 for the fittings they mount into but I suspect they would laugh when I ask if they have these in stock and I'll just get aggitated with how much they want for them. I'm thinking I'll email the folks at omega-usa and see if they have a cross reference for the factory p/n... ...but that was an entertaining idea... Neal Hoover wrote: > um... have you tried the Jeep dealership? > i know, i avoid them at all costs, too, but..... > ;) > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 > Project '96 XJ > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JeepNut" > To: ; > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:04 AM > Subject: fsj: A/C parts assist > > > >> Hi all, >> I need to replace the service valves on my York compressor in the XJ. >> Yes it is a York. I don't like those junk Sanden compressors. Had >> too many fail. Or maybe I've just had this XJ for so long it SEEMS like >> I've replaced a lot of them... in any case...when I did the custom A/C >> work, I had them use an SJ compressor and valve set and have been >> happier with the A/C than in many years. >> But the old valves are now leaky. My shade-tree A/C guy can pump me >> up, but doesn't source parts. >> >> I found a great website, with lotsa valves, but not sure which ones >> are right. >> John should like the name of the place... >> http://www.omega-usa.com/client/images/Fittings.pdf >> >> So who knows WHICH valves are stock standard on an SJ of the mid-80's >> flavor? >> Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:22:24 -0400 From: JeepNut Subject: Re: fsj: A/C parts assist Well... that's interesting as that is what I thought looked right. I was mostly wavering over a #10 vs. #8 vs. metric argument. I don't know why we haven't gotten this country fully metric after all these years. What the heck is a #10? I don't know how big that is... other than being a little bigger than a 9 and smaller than an 11. I know how big 24mm is. Fairly precisely... john wrote: > the fittings compressor items look familiar... 35-10046-18 > #10 o-ring to flare with 1/4 backseat valve... > > the 35-18283 may have worked on the GM compressor on my 6.2 setup. > > I had a custom adapter made that used the Jeep compressor valves > and then an extension hose... the compressor on the 6.2 is on the > DS, on the jeep it's on the PS... > > you can see the valves in this picture: > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/FuelSolenoid-12July2008/replace-solenoid/cruise-setup.jpg > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, JeepNut wrote: > > # Hi all, > # I need to replace the service valves on my York compressor in the XJ. > # Yes it is a York. I don't like those junk Sanden compressors. Had > # too many fail. Or maybe I've just had this XJ for so long it SEEMS like > # I've replaced a lot of them... in any case...when I did the custom A/C > # work, I had them use an SJ compressor and valve set and have been > # happier with the A/C than in many years. > # But the old valves are now leaky. My shade-tree A/C guy can pump me > # up, but doesn't source parts. > # > # I found a great website, with lotsa valves, but not sure which ones > # are right. > # John should like the name of the place... > # http://www.omega-usa.com/client/images/Fittings.pdf > # > # So who knows WHICH valves are stock standard on an SJ of the mid-80's > # flavor? > # Thanks in advance! > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:32:24 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: A/C parts assist maybe you could call everett hydraulic and ask them, they just built my hoses... they could make you some and ship 'em to you... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, JeepNut wrote: # Well... that's interesting as that is what I thought looked right. # I was mostly wavering over a #10 vs. #8 vs. metric argument. # I don't know why we haven't gotten this country fully metric after all # these years. # What the heck is a #10? I don't know how big that is... other than # being a little bigger than a 9 and smaller than an 11. # I know how big 24mm is. Fairly precisely... # # # john wrote: # > the fittings compressor items look familiar... 35-10046-18 # > #10 o-ring to flare with 1/4 backseat valve... # > # > the 35-18283 may have worked on the GM compressor on my 6.2 setup. # > # > I had a custom adapter made that used the Jeep compressor valves # > and then an extension hose... the compressor on the 6.2 is on the # > DS, on the jeep it's on the PS... # > # > you can see the valves in this picture: # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/FuelSolenoid-12July2008/replace-solenoid/cruise-setup.jpg # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, JeepNut wrote: # > # > # Hi all, # > # I need to replace the service valves on my York compressor in the XJ. # > # Yes it is a York. I don't like those junk Sanden compressors. Had # > # too many fail. Or maybe I've just had this XJ for so long it SEEMS like # > # I've replaced a lot of them... in any case...when I did the custom A/C # > # work, I had them use an SJ compressor and valve set and have been # > # happier with the A/C than in many years. # > # But the old valves are now leaky. My shade-tree A/C guy can pump me # > # up, but doesn't source parts. # > # # > # I found a great website, with lotsa valves, but not sure which ones # > # are right. # > # John should like the name of the place... # > # http://www.omega-usa.com/client/images/Fittings.pdf # > # # > # So who knows WHICH valves are stock standard on an SJ of the mid-80's # > # flavor? # > # Thanks in advance! # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:40:09 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist i hear ya. BUT.... don't count them out just yet. i mean, the GW ran up until when.... '92? (i could be *way* wrong on that, so don't slap me ;) i was surprised when i found a tranny shifter linkage pivot bushing for my '76 j-truck from the dealership. not to mention my BRAND NEW tailgate release handle for that same truck from the dealership. and it sure is purdy. lol! again, you can't really count on them for a whole lot, but every once in a while, it'll surprise you what they can get their hands on. (btw, most everything i get from them for my j-truck is an order item, they never have it in stock) i guess the trick is to schmooze someone behind the counter to spend some time digging to find the stuff. i think their electronic parts books don't go back past '84. so, everything is manual searching for me. just my $0.02 Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "JeepNut" To: Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:51 PM Subject: Re: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist > heh, heh, heh, you mean you have a Jeep dealership that even knows what > an SJ is?... > Might be entertaining to watch them dig that deep into a microfiche > file... lol... > But heck, I AM a dealership parts counter. > I've got parts manuals out the wazoo. > And no parts. > p/n J813-3190 for the valves and J813-3904 for the fittings they mount > into but I suspect they would laugh when I ask if they have these in > stock and I'll just get aggitated with how much they want for them. > I'm thinking I'll email the folks at omega-usa and see if they have a > cross reference for the factory p/n... > ...but that was an entertaining idea... > > Neal Hoover wrote: > > um... have you tried the Jeep dealership? > > i know, i avoid them at all costs, too, but..... > > ;) > > > > Neal A. Hoover > > Project '76 J-10 > > Project '96 XJ > > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "JeepNut" > > To: ; > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:04 AM > > Subject: fsj: A/C parts assist > > > > > > > >> Hi all, > >> I need to replace the service valves on my York compressor in the XJ. > >> Yes it is a York. I don't like those junk Sanden compressors. Had > >> too many fail. Or maybe I've just had this XJ for so long it SEEMS like > >> I've replaced a lot of them... in any case...when I did the custom A/C > >> work, I had them use an SJ compressor and valve set and have been > >> happier with the A/C than in many years. > >> But the old valves are now leaky. My shade-tree A/C guy can pump me > >> up, but doesn't source parts. > >> > >> I found a great website, with lotsa valves, but not sure which ones > >> are right. > >> John should like the name of the place... > >> http://www.omega-usa.com/client/images/Fittings.pdf > >> > >> So who knows WHICH valves are stock standard on an SJ of the mid-80's > >> flavor? > >> Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:59:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: fsj: A/C parts assist I think it's the size of the o-ring, not the threads... 10mm is tiny... this should be standard flare nut / plumbing SAE sizes... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, JeepNut wrote: # Well... that's interesting as that is what I thought looked right. # I was mostly wavering over a #10 vs. #8 vs. metric argument. # I don't know why we haven't gotten this country fully metric after all # these years. # What the heck is a #10? I don't know how big that is... other than # being a little bigger than a 9 and smaller than an 11. # I know how big 24mm is. Fairly precisely... # # # john wrote: # > the fittings compressor items look familiar... 35-10046-18 # > #10 o-ring to flare with 1/4 backseat valve... # > # > the 35-18283 may have worked on the GM compressor on my 6.2 setup. # > # > I had a custom adapter made that used the Jeep compressor valves # > and then an extension hose... the compressor on the 6.2 is on the # > DS, on the jeep it's on the PS... # > # > you can see the valves in this picture: # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/FuelSolenoid-12July2008/replace-solenoid/cruise-setup.jpg # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, JeepNut wrote: # > # > # Hi all, # > # I need to replace the service valves on my York compressor in the XJ. # > # Yes it is a York. I don't like those junk Sanden compressors. Had # > # too many fail. Or maybe I've just had this XJ for so long it SEEMS like # > # I've replaced a lot of them... in any case...when I did the custom A/C # > # work, I had them use an SJ compressor and valve set and have been # > # happier with the A/C than in many years. # > # But the old valves are now leaky. My shade-tree A/C guy can pump me # > # up, but doesn't source parts. # > # # > # I found a great website, with lotsa valves, but not sure which ones # > # are right. # > # John should like the name of the place... # > # http://www.omega-usa.com/client/images/Fittings.pdf # > # # > # So who knows WHICH valves are stock standard on an SJ of the mid-80's # > # flavor? # > # Thanks in advance! # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:00:44 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist up until about the last couple years I was able to get a lot of SJ parts at the dealership... now, if it were a mercedes, you could get parts way, way back... just went to the Benz dealership and bought a part for my son's '85. :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Neal Hoover wrote: # i hear ya. # BUT.... don't count them out just yet. i mean, the GW ran up until when.... # '92? (i could be *way* wrong on that, so don't slap me ;) # i was surprised when i found a tranny shifter linkage pivot bushing for my # '76 j-truck from the dealership. not to mention my BRAND NEW tailgate # release handle for that same truck from the dealership. and it sure is # purdy. lol! # again, you can't really count on them for a whole lot, but every once in a # while, it'll surprise you what they can get their hands on. # (btw, most everything i get from them for my j-truck is an order item, they # never have it in stock) # i guess the trick is to schmooze someone behind the counter to spend some # time digging to find the stuff. i think their electronic parts books don't # go back past '84. so, everything is manual searching for me. # just my $0.02 # # Neal A. Hoover # Project '76 J-10 # Project '96 XJ # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # # # ----- Original Message ----- # From: "JeepNut" # To: # Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:51 PM # Subject: Re: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist # # # > heh, heh, heh, you mean you have a Jeep dealership that even knows what # > an SJ is?... # > Might be entertaining to watch them dig that deep into a microfiche # > file... lol... # > But heck, I AM a dealership parts counter. # > I've got parts manuals out the wazoo. # > And no parts. # > p/n J813-3190 for the valves and J813-3904 for the fittings they mount # > into but I suspect they would laugh when I ask if they have these in # > stock and I'll just get aggitated with how much they want for them. # > I'm thinking I'll email the folks at omega-usa and see if they have a # > cross reference for the factory p/n... # > ...but that was an entertaining idea... # > # > Neal Hoover wrote: # > > um... have you tried the Jeep dealership? # > > i know, i avoid them at all costs, too, but..... # > > ;) # > > # > > Neal A. Hoover # > > Project '76 J-10 # > > Project '96 XJ # > > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # > > # > > # > > ----- Original Message ----- # > > From: "JeepNut" # > > To: ; # > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:04 AM # > > Subject: fsj: A/C parts assist # > > # > > # > > # > >> Hi all, # > >> I need to replace the service valves on my York compressor in the XJ. # > >> Yes it is a York. I don't like those junk Sanden compressors. Had # > >> too many fail. Or maybe I've just had this XJ for so long it SEEMS # like # > >> I've replaced a lot of them... in any case...when I did the custom A/C # > >> work, I had them use an SJ compressor and valve set and have been # > >> happier with the A/C than in many years. # > >> But the old valves are now leaky. My shade-tree A/C guy can pump me # > >> up, but doesn't source parts. # > >> # > >> I found a great website, with lotsa valves, but not sure which ones # > >> are right. # > >> John should like the name of the place... # > >> http://www.omega-usa.com/client/images/Fittings.pdf # > >> # > >> So who knows WHICH valves are stock standard on an SJ of the mid-80's # > >> flavor? # > >> Thanks in advance! # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:01:33 -0400 From: JeepNut Subject: Re: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist Yep that's true...if you get a Jeeper behind the counter you do better, it seems to me. Neal Hoover wrote: > i hear ya. > BUT.... don't count them out just yet. i mean, the GW ran up until when.... > '92? (i could be *way* wrong on that, so don't slap me ;) > i was surprised when i found a tranny shifter linkage pivot bushing for my > '76 j-truck from the dealership. not to mention my BRAND NEW tailgate > release handle for that same truck from the dealership. and it sure is > purdy. lol! > again, you can't really count on them for a whole lot, but every once in a > while, it'll surprise you what they can get their hands on. > (btw, most everything i get from them for my j-truck is an order item, they > never have it in stock) > i guess the trick is to schmooze someone behind the counter to spend some > time digging to find the stuff. i think their electronic parts books don't > go back past '84. so, everything is manual searching for me. > just my $0.02 > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 > Project '96 XJ > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JeepNut" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:51 PM > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: A/C parts assist > > > >> heh, heh, heh, you mean you have a Jeep dealership that even knows what >> an SJ is?... >> Might be entertaining to watch them dig that deep into a microfiche >> file... lol... >> But heck, I AM a dealership parts counter. >> I've got parts manuals out the wazoo. >> And no parts. >> p/n J813-3190 for the valves and J813-3904 for the fittings they mount >> into but I suspect they would laugh when I ask if they have these in >> stock and I'll just get aggitated with how much they want for them. >> I'm thinking I'll email the folks at omega-usa and see if they have a >> cross reference for the factory p/n... >> ...but that was an entertaining idea... >> >> Neal Hoover wrote: >> >>> um... have you tried the Jeep dealership? >>> i know, i avoid them at all costs, too, but..... >>> ;) >>> >>> Neal A. Hoover >>> Project '76 J-10 >>> Project '96 XJ >>> http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "JeepNut" >>> To: ; >>> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:04 AM >>> Subject: fsj: A/C parts assist >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I need to replace the service valves on my York compressor in the XJ. >>>> Yes it is a York. I don't like those junk Sanden compressors. Had >>>> too many fail. Or maybe I've just had this XJ for so long it SEEMS >>>> > like > >>>> I've replaced a lot of them... in any case...when I did the custom A/C >>>> work, I had them use an SJ compressor and valve set and have been >>>> happier with the A/C than in many years. >>>> But the old valves are now leaky. My shade-tree A/C guy can pump me >>>> up, but doesn't source parts. >>>> >>>> I found a great website, with lotsa valves, but not sure which ones >>>> are right. >>>> John should like the name of the place... >>>> http://www.omega-usa.com/client/images/Fittings.pdf >>>> >>>> So who knows WHICH valves are stock standard on an SJ of the mid-80's >>>> flavor? >>>> Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:15:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3122 **************************