From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Aug 22 18:29:48 2008 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, August 23 2008 Volume 01 : Number 3158 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: RE: [db] the next stage... cameras fsj: RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) RE: fsj: RE: [db] the next stage... cameras fsj: 2 1/2 in duals FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:13:08 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: RE: [db] the next stage... cameras Fat fingers! Meant $100 first time but they want to raise it up to a max of $1,000 (I hit the wrong button and erased the stuff in the middle) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:03:14 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: dan-at-black.org > CC: diesel-benz-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: RE: [db] the next stage... cameras > > # Jim Blair said: > # {- Can't hold onto it to aim while driving. It's a $1,000 fine now (Yes, big > # {- brother IS watching!) > > I'm not so sure that the info Jim is offering is completely accurate... > > most of the fines are $105. or something like that... 129? 101? > > The only laws I'm aware of are a complete ban on texting, a ban > on holding a phone to your ear, littering, and distracted driving... > they haven't outlawed photography, lattes, in car conversations, sight seeing > or even eating... although the "distracted driving" law covers some of those > things, but only with a $100 range fine... quite possibly there is a maximum > set to $1000 or more... if you look like you just crawled out from under > a rock, or a Jeep, the trooper has the discrection to really nail you, but > you can contest it in court... > > I suspect if you violate a bunch of rules your fees could easily > add up the fines pretty quick... but most of the time it'll be the > minimum, or if you're clean shaven and polite, a warning... > > Jim, do you have the RCW info on this or any news items citing this? > > I just went through the dol.wa.gov site and have looked through the related > RCWs before... > > I am a bit skeptical of this information... :) > > Big brother is a big pain no doubt, but our troopers and sherrifs out > here aren't all that bad at all, pretty reasonable folks, but then > again my interaction with them has always been pleasant... > > Jim, cite some official info, you're frightening the children, > and propagating myth... :) > > BTW, we have a governor race going on... the GOP candidate has > noted that our current Demo incumbent has raised our gas taxes > to the highest in the country... current Diesel price at the > corner shell is "down" to 4.55, regular unleaded at $3.99... whoo hoo... > > heading over to Ellensburg tomorrow to pick up the 4" exhaust for > my 6.5L TD powered BigOldBlazer (bob??)... the engineer over there > has an R&D setup... he's got a '94 1/2t pickup with the 6.5L that > he's taking to Bonneville in September to attempt the land speed > record for a stock Diesel pickup... not sure what the current record > is, but he's going for 150mph... He's going to let me take pictures. :) > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > * SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL * > * SAVE ELECTRICITY use Linux: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf * > http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Dan Black wrote: > > # Holy buckets! $1000?!? And is that cell phones, cameras, or both? > # > # I don't usually like it when people are talking on cell phones in city > # traffic, due to the fact that they are oblivious and either obstruct > # traffic or even create dangerous situations. But on the open highway > # with low traffic, I care a lot less. > # > # I even use mine in traffic on very rare occasions -- maybe a few times a > # year for _very_ short calls ( # traffic), and maybe a couple times per year for longer calls on the open > # interstate. (I'd probably do it a little more often on interstate, > # except that I just don't get out of town that often.) If I need to make > # a call and there's a heavy traffic situation, I just pull off into a > # parking lot or something to make/take the call. > # > # As much as I enjoy scenic and other recreational driving and hope it's > # always an option, I'll admit it'll be nice when they get automated stuff > # implemented for the "just get me to Point B" driving. (Others argue > # that they already have that -- they call it "busses and trains". But > # there isn't much of that beyond the big coastal cities.) > # > # Jim Blair said: > # {- Can't hold onto it to aim while driving. It's a $1,000 fine now (Yes, big > # {- brother IS watching!) > # {- > # {-> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:45:30 -0700 > # {-> From: john-at-wagoneers.com > # {-> To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > # {-> CC: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net > # {-> Subject: RE: fsj: RE: [db] the next stage... cameras > # {-> > # {-> I like my treos, but their not flip phones... > # {-> > # {-> I have yet to see a camera phone that can take a decent picture... your > # {- best > # {-> bet is to buy a nice Digital camera... Panasonic/Lumix, Olympus, both make > # {- nice > # {-> units... lots of options, ALL better than a cell phone camera. :) > # > # - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- > # Long, long ago, before eruptions were invented, the molten lava > # had to be carried down the mountainside, bucket by bucket, > # and poured over the sleeping villagers. This took time. > # -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org - -------------- > # _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo _Gallery_082008 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:10:55 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: fsj: RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) I did that a LONG time ago. Stopped getting hassled right after the lawyer sent in the copies of the video to the chief of police. Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 From: "Jesse Barbieri" Subject: xj: Re: RE: fsj: RE: [db] the next stage... cameras I am puting a video camera in my car because "big brother" pulls me over for no reason at night...I work nights and take a main road home around 2am I always seem to get pulled over. There are camcorders with composite video inputs that will allow you to connect a cctv camera to them and record. Now I can prove "they" have no integrity. I am also going to fill out a FOIL form for my DMV records that show when I was pulled over to prove a pattern with the NYS troopers and sherrifs. LOL NEW YORKS FINEST! Jesse. _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:29:36 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: RE: [db] the next stage... cameras fair enough... you had me worried... ;) ya never know what the liberals in olympia will do next... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold * SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL * * SAVE ELECTRICITY use Linux: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf * http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Jim Blair wrote: # # Fat fingers! Meant $100 first time but they want to raise it up to a max of $1,000 (I hit the wrong button and erased the stuff in the middle) # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:03:14 -0700 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: dan-at-black.org # > CC: diesel-benz-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: Re: fsj: RE: [db] the next stage... cameras # > # > # Jim Blair said: # > # {- Can't hold onto it to aim while driving. It's a $1,000 fine now (Yes, big # > # {- brother IS watching!) # > # > I'm not so sure that the info Jim is offering is completely accurate... # > # > most of the fines are $105. or something like that... 129? 101? # > # > The only laws I'm aware of are a complete ban on texting, a ban # > on holding a phone to your ear, littering, and distracted driving... # > they haven't outlawed photography, lattes, in car conversations, sight seeing # > or even eating... although the "distracted driving" law covers some of those # > things, but only with a $100 range fine... quite possibly there is a maximum # > set to $1000 or more... if you look like you just crawled out from under # > a rock, or a Jeep, the trooper has the discrection to really nail you, but # > you can contest it in court... # > # > I suspect if you violate a bunch of rules your fees could easily # > add up the fines pretty quick... but most of the time it'll be the # > minimum, or if you're clean shaven and polite, a warning... # > # > Jim, do you have the RCW info on this or any news items citing this? # > # > I just went through the dol.wa.gov site and have looked through the related # > RCWs before... # > # > I am a bit skeptical of this information... :) # > # > Big brother is a big pain no doubt, but our troopers and sherrifs out # > here aren't all that bad at all, pretty reasonable folks, but then # > again my interaction with them has always been pleasant... # > # > Jim, cite some official info, you're frightening the children, # > and propagating myth... :) # > # > BTW, we have a governor race going on... the GOP candidate has # > noted that our current Demo incumbent has raised our gas taxes # > to the highest in the country... current Diesel price at the # > corner shell is "down" to 4.55, regular unleaded at $3.99... whoo hoo... # > # > heading over to Ellensburg tomorrow to pick up the 4" exhaust for # > my 6.5L TD powered BigOldBlazer (bob??)... the engineer over there # > has an R&D setup... he's got a '94 1/2t pickup with the 6.5L that # > he's taking to Bonneville in September to attempt the land speed # > record for a stock Diesel pickup... not sure what the current record # > is, but he's going for 150mph... He's going to let me take pictures. :) # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > * SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL * # > * SAVE ELECTRICITY use Linux: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf * # > http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Dan Black wrote: # > # > # Holy buckets! $1000?!? And is that cell phones, cameras, or both? # > # # > # I don't usually like it when people are talking on cell phones in city # > # traffic, due to the fact that they are oblivious and either obstruct # > # traffic or even create dangerous situations. But on the open highway # > # with low traffic, I care a lot less. # > # # > # I even use mine in traffic on very rare occasions -- maybe a few times a # > # year for _very_ short calls ( # traffic), and maybe a couple times per year for longer calls on the open # > # interstate. (I'd probably do it a little more often on interstate, # > # except that I just don't get out of town that often.) If I need to make # > # a call and there's a heavy traffic situation, I just pull off into a # > # parking lot or something to make/take the call. # > # # > # As much as I enjoy scenic and other recreational driving and hope it's # > # always an option, I'll admit it'll be nice when they get automated stuff # > # implemented for the "just get me to Point B" driving. (Others argue # > # that they already have that -- they call it "busses and trains". But # > # there isn't much of that beyond the big coastal cities.) # > # # > # Jim Blair said: # > # {- Can't hold onto it to aim while driving. It's a $1,000 fine now (Yes, big # > # {- brother IS watching!) # > # {- # > # {-> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:45:30 -0700 # > # {-> From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > # {-> To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com # > # {-> CC: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net # > # {-> Subject: RE: fsj: RE: [db] the next stage... cameras # > # {-> # > # {-> I like my treos, but their not flip phones... # > # {-> # > # {-> I have yet to see a camera phone that can take a decent picture... your # > # {- best # > # {-> bet is to buy a nice Digital camera... Panasonic/Lumix, Olympus, both make # > # {- nice # > # {-> units... lots of options, ALL better than a cell phone camera. :) # > # # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # Long, long ago, before eruptions were invented, the molten lava # > # had to be carried down the mountainside, bucket by bucket, # > # and poured over the sleeping villagers. This took time. # > # -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- # > # # # _________________________________________________________________ # Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. # http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:20:26 -0500 From: Zee Man Subject: fsj: 2 1/2 in duals Does anyone have any advice on running this size? meaning where its gets in the way. I decided to get rid of my functional but annoying 2 1/4 , I am unable to fit a deep transmission pan (turbo 400), they also reutilized the heat riser which i find annoying and un necessary for me, and the driver's side they made it necessary to use double gaskets(2 donuts) to get it to seal right, and lastly i just want that nasty Flowmaster sound. I am hoping to use a 2 1/2 Flowmaster Super 40 with dual in and dual outlets. Oh if you guys are night owls and you have info tonight can you bcc or cc to robert.zabawa-02 -at- charleston.af.mil i am about to head to work and i am getting my exhaust hopefully in the am, parts permitting.. Rob _________________________________________________________________ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yaho o_082008 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3158 **************************