From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Feb 15 19:34:02 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, February 16 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3265 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: cj-10a, yj, j10? :) fsj: saga of the cj-10a fsj: frame question fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: Re: fsj-digest test FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 11:51:45 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: cj-10a, yj, j10? :) ok, faced with many options... including doing nothing, which is what I'm going to do today seeing as how it's the 14th of February and this is the 35th time through this particular day. ;) anyway, quick thoughts... what to do with the '86 CJ-10A... determined that I want a Diesel 4x4 as a daily driver... also determined that it will be a Mercedes or a Jeep. (got rid of the chevy) determined that a Mercedes Diesel 4x4 is not a viable option, dollarwise. that leaves me with a Jeep setup. Have a Diesel in a CJ-10A, that I can't insure with my current company and is NOT 4x4... so that presents the following current options (keep the popcorn handy) to either make it a 4x4 or find another Jeep to make into a Diesel. 1) put GW axles under the CJ-10A... $650 - $1000, then build a bed... $500 or so. needs a starter too... 2dr, a bit ugly, slow, but kind of cool. not that much work. found axles for $650, unknown ratio.. might be cool to put the cj-10a on the road that way, would use broadform insurance... 2) buy a GW, remove the body, drop the CJ-10A drivetrain into it, move the cab over and build a custom bed on the GW frame... $1000 give or take. same insurance solution. 3) buy a YJ and put the Nissan Diesel into it... $1500 - $3500, plus a fair amount of work sell the CJ-10A cab and parts... have a buyer for the cab willing to pay $1800. 4) wait for my J10 to be finished, drive it with the 4.2 and look for a 2.5 - 3.0 Mercedes Turbo Diesel to mate to the existing T-5. (ANYONE KNOW OF AN ADAPTER for Mercedes Diesels to Jeep T-5 or T-18s? or better an AW4? ) 5) buy a YJ with a small engine (2.5L) and drive it, wait for the J10 to be finished and then put a Diesel in the Jeep of my preference. $2-$3k or drive them as is and pick one... found a couple of nice YJs up in BC, importing them doesn't appear simple though. 6) do nothing... which is what I hope to do today. ;) I test drove an '89 YJ the other night... liked it... enjoyed it's tight turning radius, felt nice... much nicer than my '48 cj-2a. Could see driving a YJ daily. have a great day... john -o|||||o- 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ) 15 mpg 4.7L V8/45RFE/NV247 1991 Mercedes 300D (124) 29 mpg 2.5L Turbo Diesel/AT (Shadowfax) in work: 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside (SJ) 14 mpg 4.2/T-5/NP208 (Superdawg) 1975 Jeep J10 long bed (SJ) hydraulic dump trailer 1986 CJ-10A 3.3L Diesel/AT - for sale - $4500 1967 Jeep J100 (SJ)Panel 232/T-85/D20 - for sale - $2900 -o|||||o- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://freegift.com http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:03:23 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: saga of the cj-10a looks like I found an '85 Grand Wagoneer that I'll swap for a laptop... not sure if I'll swap the axles to the existing CJ-10A chassis or move the cab and clip and engine to the GW frame and axles and build a flatbed on the back of the wag. :) no cash out of pocket... and I'll have a few GW parts as well. :) we'll see, should happen on Monday... keep the popcorn fresh. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://freegift.com http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:24:21 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: frame question was looking at the cj-10a on http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=62556 and couldn't tell if he had modified the frame... he mentioned using FSJ front springs in the rear and ended up with a 96" wheelbase... any one know if he extended the frame or not? If not, that will greatly simplify my setup, will just take the axles off the '85 GW and build a bed in the back... a LOT less work than swapping bodies around. I have an extra set of springs laying around too. thanx, john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://freegift.com http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:15:02 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:24:01 -0800 From: Curtis Subject: fsj: Re: fsj-digest test Test. Test. Test. Am I back yet? ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3265 **************************