From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Mar 5 14:32:01 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Thursday, March 5 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3279 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: [CJ-10List] Re: Diesel ideas fsj: RE: [CJ-10List] Re: Diesel ideas fsj: the photoshop master down under... fsj: cj-10a ideas fsj: and the winner is... fsj: cj-10a in shop for axles fsj: Fwd from FSJparts-at-yahoogroups.com: 77 Wag Carb replacement? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:40:20 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: Re: [CJ-10List] Re: Diesel ideas I put a 6.2 in my '91 Grand Wagoneer... worked out quite well, may do another in my '83 J10 Stepside... two things I'll do on the next one: 1) use GM mounts instead of the worthless novak units 2) add soundproofing from underneath when the engine is out. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, JeepFan wrote: # That's a good reason. # # Most Jeep guys use the Cummins 4bt for a Jeep engine swap. They are expensive, but make good power and torque. # # # # # ----- Original Message ----- # From: diesel john # To: cj-10 list # Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:14 PM # Subject: Re: [CJ-10List] Re: Diesel ideas # # # simple, I have free Biodiesel and WVO. # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://freegift.com # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ---------------------------------------------------------- # # On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Martin wrote: # # # I did some limited research, and it seems that the 4 cylinder Jeep # # engine has about the same HP and torque as the non turbo nissan # # diesel. If this is the case, why bother with an engine swap? # # # # # # # # --- In CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com, diesel john wrote: # # > # # > have someone interested in the cab only from my CJ-10A... he's # # > even offered to find a YJ and bring it as part of the deal so I # # > could use my front clip and Diesel drivetrain... # # > # # > just wondering if a YJ is the best option for the transplant... # # > # # > - YJ - around 3,000 lbs and up # # > - XJ - around 3,500 lbs and up # # > - SJ - around 4,500 lbs and up # # > - SJ J10 - around 4,100 lbs and up. # # > # # > The 3.3L Nissan Diesel has all of about 80 hp... which means # # > in a race with it attached to a skateboard an old 240D would # # > be showing off its taillights to me. ;) # # > # # > The YJ would be the easiest transplant. # # > The XJ would be a nice finished product but a bit more work. # # > The SJ would be an easy transplant but the word plant might # # indicate # # > it's eventual velocity... doubt it would escape the # # driveway... # # > The J10 wouldn't be a good choice, I plan to use it as a truck. # # > # # > That means that a Wrangler of some kind, if one can be found with # # > a dead engine or cheaply enough, might make a great Diesel 4x4 # # daily # # > driver, WVO barrel chasing Jeep... # # > # # > Or, I can hope someone will just buy the CJ-10A outright and # # complete # # > and I'll be done with this insanity... or at least moving along to # # > the next adventure. :) # # > # # > Oh, tried to put insurance on the '86 CJ-10A... my insurance # # company # # > won't insure it... they didn't even know what it was... ;) # # broadform # # > is an option, $200/6mos, might drop my other coverage even... # # > # # > john # # > # # # # # # # # # # # [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:37:14 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: RE: [CJ-10List] Re: Diesel ideas agreed. a B4 would be nice, excellent economy, but the direct injection/noise, weight and height make it a challenge... one friend on the FSJ list has a willys pu setup on a wagoneer/cherokee chassis with a 4bt... the guy welded the body to the frame... the glass is cracked on the cab... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Scott MacMoyle wrote: # Most people don't realize how loud a Cummins is and how much it shakes and # how heavy and expensive it is. But it is undeniably a great engine. I too # used the 6.2. Its cheaper and was designed for light duty trucks. # # # # From: CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com [mailto:CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com] On Behalf # Of diesel john # Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 3:40 PM # To: undisclosed-recipients: # Subject: Re: [CJ-10List] Re: Diesel ideas # # # # I put a 6.2 in my '91 Grand Wagoneer... worked out quite well, # may do another in my '83 J10 Stepside... # # two things I'll do on the next one: # 1) use GM mounts instead of the worthless novak units # 2) add soundproofing from underneath when the engine is out. # # john # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ---------------------------------------------------------- # # On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, JeepFan wrote: # # # That's a good reason. # # # # Most Jeep guys use the Cummins 4bt for a Jeep engine swap. They are # expensive, but make good power and torque. # # # # # # # # # # ----- Original Message ----- # # From: diesel john # # To: cj-10 list # # Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:14 PM # # Subject: Re: [CJ-10List] Re: Diesel ideas # # # # # # simple, I have free Biodiesel and WVO. # # # # ----- # # ---------------------------------------------------------- # # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://freegift.com # # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # # ---------------------------------------------------------- # # # # On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Martin wrote: # # # # # I did some limited research, and it seems that the 4 cylinder Jeep # # # engine has about the same HP and torque as the non turbo nissan # # # diesel. If this is the case, why bother with an engine swap? # # # # # # # # # # # # --- In CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com , # diesel john wrote: # # # > # # # > have someone interested in the cab only from my CJ-10A... he's # # # > even offered to find a YJ and bring it as part of the deal so I # # # > could use my front clip and Diesel drivetrain... # # # > # # # > just wondering if a YJ is the best option for the transplant... # # # > # # # > - YJ - around 3,000 lbs and up # # # > - XJ - around 3,500 lbs and up # # # > - SJ - around 4,500 lbs and up # # # > - SJ J10 - around 4,100 lbs and up. # # # > # # # > The 3.3L Nissan Diesel has all of about 80 hp... which means # # # > in a race with it attached to a skateboard an old 240D would # # # > be showing off its taillights to me. ;) # # # > # # # > The YJ would be the easiest transplant. # # # > The XJ would be a nice finished product but a bit more work. # # # > The SJ would be an easy transplant but the word plant might # # # indicate # # # > it's eventual velocity... doubt it would escape the # # # driveway... # # # > The J10 wouldn't be a good choice, I plan to use it as a truck. # # # > # # # > That means that a Wrangler of some kind, if one can be found with # # # > a dead engine or cheaply enough, might make a great Diesel 4x4 # # # daily # # # > driver, WVO barrel chasing Jeep... # # # > # # # > Or, I can hope someone will just buy the CJ-10A outright and # # # complete # # # > and I'll be done with this insanity... or at least moving along to # # # > the next adventure. :) # # # > # # # > Oh, tried to put insurance on the '86 CJ-10A... my insurance # # # company # # # > won't insure it... they didn't even know what it was... ;) # # # broadform # # # > is an option, $200/6mos, might drop my other coverage even... # # # > # # # > john # # # > # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] # # # # # # # # # # [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:40:28 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: the photoshop master down under... my friend down under whipped up this composite image to try and scare me off from using my J10 cab on the cj-10a chassis: http://wagoneers.com/tmp/J10hybrid.jpg He thinks that the rear wheel will hit the cab... but he didn't realize that the axle has been moved back by flipping the GW springs around... and should be about where the 235 is sitting in this picture... They will have to cut off the rear fenders to fit this... haven't gotten a call from the shop in a couple of hours... not sure if I should be worried or happy... ;) every time they call, it costs more money. But that's the way a Jeep project is supposed to go, right? J-ust E-mpty E-very P-ocket. :) I must say, this J10 cab on this short box setup does look pretty sweet... my friend should have grabbed a rattier looking cab to try to discourage me. ;) (you see he secretly wants superdawg.. :) well, maybe not secretly... ;) I revealed the secret of the stepside to him... get an old Willys PU box and put the fiberglass fenders on and you too can have a stepside... I can get new fenders made for about a grand, have the molds at a shop. in other news... have a bidder on my '67 J100 panel, a guy out on the other coast... another jeep-aholic... talked to him at lunch time... looks he figured out how to get it back east... kevin, you better get your bid in quick... ;) item 160318497884 all in all, a good jeep day... I think I'm going to take a walk upstairs so I can look out the windows and see if the mountains are visible today. :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:15:42 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: cj-10a ideas http://wagoneers.com/tmp/tug-ideas.html I put a flatbed on the J10 version... I think the cj-10a cab looks better than the J10 cab... thoughts? john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:47:51 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: and the winner is... the tug with a flatbed... some of the worst examples of photographic abuse and editing anywhere: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/2009_Mar_04_flatbed-ideas-EDITED-pix/tug-ideas.html :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:24:57 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: cj-10a in shop for axles ran into snohomish a bit ago to identify some of the mods needed. cutting the aircraft tug bed to clear the tires... getting close, suspect it'll be done today. :) http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/2009_Mar_05-tug-in-shop/ALL.html ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:20:57 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: fsj: Fwd from FSJparts-at-yahoogroups.com: 77 Wag Carb replacement? 77 Wag Carb replacement? Posted by: "Dan Shaw" danielshaw68-at-sbcglobal.net deshaw68 Date: Wed Mar 4, 2009 10:59 am ((PST)) I have a '77 Wagoneer with a 360 V8. The Carb is a 4b Motorcraft 4350 or Holly reman part #64-5180 Im looking for the throttle body plate of the Carb. The one I have has a cracked, I don't really need a whole carb but will take one. Does anyone have a source for a used carb? After calling the local auto part stores they are either not available or $$$$$$. It is the last thing to get my Wag rebuild project finished and back on the road. Danielshaw68-at-sbcglobal.net Thanks Dan _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live^Y Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cn s!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3279 **************************