From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Apr 1 10:25:46 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, April 1 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3295 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: trans question fsj: RE: [db] trans question fsj: RE: [db] trans question fsj: RE: [db] trans question fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: taking Cherokee to Germany? RE: fsj: taking Cherokee to Germany? fsj: temptations RE: fsj: temptations RE: fsj: temptations FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:03:19 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: trans question what Diesels would bolt up to a Ford C6 mated to an NP205? I have one from an '89 Bronco that isn't selling... driver's side drop so it would work in my '83 J10... or my '86 cj-10a... do ford Diesel pickups with IH engines ever use the C6? john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:38:38 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: RE: [db] trans question read that the 6.9 and 7.3 might work... someone is selling a c6 and listed those... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Potter, Tom E wrote: # I know the 199? F-250 diesel used the E4OD. I don't know what else they # may have used. # # Tom Potter # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] # On Behalf Of diesel john # Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:03 PM # Subject: [db] trans question # # what Diesels would bolt up to a Ford C6 mated to an NP205? # # I have one from an '89 Bronco that isn't selling... driver's side # drop so it would work in my '83 J10... or my '86 cj-10a... # # do ford Diesel pickups with IH engines ever use the C6? # # john # # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:59:32 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: RE: [db] trans question that opens some options... what's your though on those Diesels? how heavy are they? john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # Yes, earlier 6.9l Navistar diesels could be mated to a C6. # # # --- On Tue, 3/31/09, john wrote: # # > From: john # > Subject: RE: [db] trans question # > To: "Potter, Tom E" # > Cc: "full size jeep list" , "diesel-benz list" # > Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 2:38 PM # > read that the 6.9 and 7.3 might work... someone is selling # > a c6 and listed those... # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com # > http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Potter, Tom E wrote: # > # > # I know the 199? F-250 diesel used the E4OD. I don't # > know what else they # > # may have used. # > # # > # Tom Potter # > # # > # -----Original Message----- # > # From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] # > # On Behalf Of diesel john # > # Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:03 PM # > # Subject: [db] trans question # > # # > # what Diesels would bolt up to a Ford C6 mated to an # > NP205? # > # # > # I have one from an '89 Bronco that isn't # > selling... driver's side # > # drop so it would work in my '83 J10... or my # > '86 cj-10a... # > # # > # do ford Diesel pickups with IH engines ever use the C6? # > # # > # john # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # ----- # > # # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps # > don't rust, they mold # > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://creationwiki.org # > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com # > http://fotomeister.us # > # # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:01:07 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: RE: [db] trans question yeah, it's a 3 speed, but it's mated to an NP205 with a driver's side drop, it's here, it's paid for and it's supposed to work... my J10 has 3.54 gears, that should work fine for local and some freeway driving. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # My 7.3 is mated to an E40D, which I think also went behind many gassers as did # the C6, so you probably could bolt it up. Can't say for sure. # # Call the auto parts store and ask them what transmission options are available # on an early 7.3 such as my van. I have replaced the trans filter on mine # twice, and I recall there being several transmissions possible behind that # engine, one of which I think was the C6. # # Isn't that a 3-speed though? # # J # To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # Subject: RE: [db] trans question # Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:02:07 -0700 (PDT) # # Yes, earlier 6.9l Navistar diesels could be mated to a C6. # # # --- On Tue, 3/31/09, john wrote: # # > From: john # > Subject: RE: [db] trans question # > To: "Potter, Tom E" # > Cc: "full size jeep list" , "diesel-benz list" # # > Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 2:38 PM # > read that the 6.9 and 7.3 might work... someone is selling # > a c6 and listed those... # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com # > http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Potter, Tom E wrote: # > # > # I know the 199? F-250 diesel used the E4OD. I don't # > know what else they # > # may have used. # > # # > # Tom Potter # > # # > # -----Original Message----- # > # From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] # > # On Behalf Of diesel john # > # Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:03 PM # > # Subject: [db] trans question # > # # > # what Diesels would bolt up to a Ford C6 mated to an # > NP205? # > # # > # I have one from an '89 Bronco that isn't # > selling... driver's side # > # drop so it would work in my '83 J10... or my # > '86 cj-10a... # > # # > # do ford Diesel pickups with IH engines ever use the C6? # > # # > # john # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # ----- # > # # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps # > don't rust, they mold # > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://creationwiki.org # > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com # > http://fotomeister.us # > # # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # # # # ____________________________________________________________ # Click here to choose from a huge selection of shipping supplies! # http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsL3FdRnli4o74VDTfHNuUtSbv8S # AIfGKTgBg85LT8CcI9DVOXBgx6/ # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 06:15:02 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:03:48 -0500 From: Zee Man Subject: fsj: taking Cherokee to Germany? All, It looks like i just might be going to Germany in late 2010. I was thinking of taking the Cherokee. I am somewhat concerned because of i do not have any Cats. MY 77 Gremlin has a noncatalyst equipped stick on the door. looking for one on the Jeep I dont see one anywhere. I am thinking I might sell it well i am there so i dont have to worry about bring back a noncatalyst equiped vehicle. I am thinking many emmisions may be waived to its age... anybody know anything about this? Sorry for the bad spelling i am still in Qatar and i am outside being attacked by flies. Thanks Rob 78 Cherokee Chief 401 77 Gremlin 401 _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobi le1_042009 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:19:06 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: taking Cherokee to Germany? If your chero has US plates, it may not be difficult to bring it back.... Otherwise, you may have to register it in one of those counties that do not care about emission, we still have 2 in Kalifornia and Nevadah does not care outside the counties that encompass Reno and Las Vegas. Michel 74wag > From: z_man401-at-hotmail.com > To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: taking Cherokee to Germany? > Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:03:48 -0500 > > All, > > > > It looks like i just might be going to Germany in late 2010. I was thinking > of taking the Cherokee. I am somewhat concerned because of i do not have any > Cats. MY 77 Gremlin has a noncatalyst equipped stick on the door. looking > for one on the Jeep I dont see one anywhere. I am thinking I might sell > it well i am there so i dont have to worry about bring back a noncatalyst > equiped vehicle. I am thinking many emmisions may be waived to its age... > anybody know anything about this? Sorry for the bad spelling i am still in > Qatar and i am outside being attacked by flies. > > > > > > Thanks > > Rob > > > > 78 Cherokee Chief 401 > > 77 Gremlin 401 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rediscover Hotmail.: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobi > le1_042009 _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN5 5C0701A ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:24:01 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: fsj: temptations I need my anti-wagoneer pills today, from the local CL 2 waggies for the price of one..... http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/1100231078.html Michel _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN5 5C0701A ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:41:14 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: temptations I was looking at an '84 GW locally for $500. No frame rot and the 360 sounded pretty good, but the back window was broken out 2 months ago (no biggie). If it happened day AFTER pay day, I probably would have grabbed it! (even had a D44 rear with tow package!) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > From: mbalea-at-hotmail.com > To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: temptations > Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:24:01 +0000 > > I need my anti-wagoneer pills today, from the local CL > > 2 waggies for the price of one..... > > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/1100231078.html > > Michel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet > Explorer 8. > http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN5 > 5C0701A _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobi le1_042009 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:25:21 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: temptations sounds good... hey, I would like a pair of seatbelts/shoulder harnesses... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # I was looking at an '84 GW locally for $500. No frame rot and the 360 sounded # pretty good, but the back window was broken out 2 months ago (no biggie). If # it happened day AFTER pay day, I probably would have grabbed it! (even had a # D44 rear with tow package!) # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # # # > From: mbalea-at-hotmail.com # > To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net # > Subject: fsj: temptations # > Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:24:01 +0000 # > # > I need my anti-wagoneer pills today, from the local CL # > # > 2 waggies for the price of one..... # > # > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/1100231078.html # > # > Michel # > # > _________________________________________________________________ # > Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet # > Explorer 8. # > # http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN5 # > 5C0701A # # _________________________________________________________________ # Rediscover Hotmail.: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry # http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobi # le1_042009 # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3295 **************************