From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Fri May 1 07:49:56 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, May 1 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3320 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Chrysler files bankruptcy Re: fsj: Chrysler files bankruptcy fsj: Re: CRD Comanche project (not mine) fsj: Diesel options fsj: Re: [db] Diesel options fsj: which oil? fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list RE: fsj: which oil? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:14:05 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: fsj: Chrysler files bankruptcy > From: BreakingNews-at-mail.cnn.com > To: textbreakingnews-at-ema3lsv06.turner.com > Subject: CNN Breaking News > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:04:57 -0700 > > -- Obama administration official: Chrysler will file for bankruptcy now that negotiations with creditors have collapsed. > > >+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= > Fareed Zakaria interviews Defense Secretary Robert Gates in an > exclusive interview this Sunday at 1 p.m. ET on CNN. http://www.cnn.com/gps > >+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= > > > > You have opted-in to receive this e-mail from CNN.com. > To unsubscribe from Breaking News e-mail alerts, go to: http://cgi.cnn.com/m/clik?l=textbreakingnews. > > One CNN Center Atlanta, GA 30303 > (c) & (r) 2009 Cable News Network _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live^Y SkyDrive^Y: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:47:16 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Chrysler files bankruptcy Chrysler deserves it for what they did to Jeep... first the ZJ, then the KJ, then the WK... bleech. or worse, they killed the SJ, the XJ, the MJ and the WJ. which offense is worse? creating things that gave Jeep a bad name and ruined the marque, or killing classics? not to mention changing model designators so they did not follow a time honored tradition... using "J". Who might be worthy of rescuing Jeep? Certainly NOT Fiat... or Renault... welcome to the brave new world of government controlled capitalism, they have a name for it, but it escapes me right now... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # > From: BreakingNews-at-mail.cnn.com # > Subject: CNN Breaking News # > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:04:57 -0700 # > -- Obama administration official: Chrysler will file for bankruptcy now that # negotiations with creditors have collapsed. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:47:25 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: CRD Comanche project (not mine) sweet. that will be nice when it's done... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Jim Blair wrote: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=726857 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:26:20 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: Diesel options found a nice looking '94 3/4t Suburban 6.5L TD... has bare metal floor in back with barn doors... supposedly a barrel will fit easily in the back... has a receiver hitch... owner claims 17 mpg around town... so, if a barrel fits in the back easily I may give up on trying to build another Diesel rig... it's a bit large, but it does have leather seats... ;) the other option is an extended cab Diesel pickup... Dodge or Chevy or even Ford... but they are typically longer than a Suburban and less useful overall. having a limited budget... so far the sub seems to make sense... my wife was mildly upset with me for selling the blazer, the ride was quite nice... being a 2 door made it hard to use, the lift gate setup was ok, but hard to reach over for me, being vertically challenged and all.. :) anyway, with me, it's all about economy... and Diesel... the tug is fun, but not very refined and limited in what it can do... can't tow... can't carry passengers, lumber, topsoil or gravel... hauls barrels well though... but it's economy isn't superlative, and I'm giving up a lot of creature comforts for it... time for a reality check I guess. :) the tug is averaging around 17 mpg... but it's still all over the place yet... (hard to get consistent refills with the current tank). It should get about 20 mpg in town... but running BioDiesel seems to knock 2 to 3 mpg off because of the quality of oil we've been getting... no big deal, still a good deal. :) average mileage on the tug has been about 17.26 overall: 12.26 20.42 14.38 16.99 the '94 6.5L Diesel blazer got about 16 overall: 15.89 16.55 14.63 19.54 17.43 16.62 19.58 21.38 14.47 17.20 15.02 14.24 13.90 12.74 13.43 16.21 16.68 (in town it looks like it was in the 13 to 15 range most of the time) omega ('91 Grand Wagoneer with a 6.2L Diesel) got about 16 overall: 16.17 15.80 18.82 14.93 16.33 11.71 23.42 23.75 15.62 14.63 14.70 10.39 (typical in town was in the 14-15 mpg range) my gas powered '83 J10 stepside with a 4.2L/T5 got about 13-14 over all... 13.84 15.15 15.51 15.22 14.73 14.19 19.37 14.33 14.36 13.64 14.59 12.53 13.37 14.01 had one XJ that got 17 in town consistently, with 31's and 3.31s... another one that got 14 (30's and 4.10s)... have had three Diesel Blazers/Jimmys... 14-19 around town... so 17 is quite realistic. so if the sub actually could get 17 around town it's better than the tug, the blazer or the GW... there are variations in vehicles, have seen it in my own fleet... problem will be my wife probably will refuse to drive the sub and we'll have the WJ, the 300D and the sub... arrghhh... :) Building another Diesel project will probably not get me any better mileage, will cost a bloody fortune and take a lot of time... maybe I'm getting old... busting knuckles isn't as much fun as it used to be... but then again, what else would I do with my free time? well... I can think of a number of things actually... :) Don't get me wrong, I've had a blast building up these rigs and will probably always have a project rig in my shop... love tinkering... trying to find/build the perfect multipurpose Diesel 4x4 is a great engineering challenge... and provides plenty of hours of entertainment for my friends... ;) Anyone have a Diesel Suburban with a 6.5 that can verify if 17 mpg in town is even possible? The seller isn't exactly a gear head... this is just another random Diesel thought, a lunch time look... one of these days I am going to find a perfect fit Diesel 4x4... have come close on a few times... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:16:27 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] Diesel options it does sound optimistic, but not unreasonable... my '83 Jimmy got 16 towing a trailer through yellowstone and 19 commuting to work... haven't looked at the book value, the guy is asking $4k, don't remember what I sold my blazer for, but in the same neighborhood... you'd think these things would have more resale value... will know more tomorrow, going to take a look at lunch time... not excited about driving a freight train, but this will be quieter, more civilized and useful for hauling folks around... with my daughter getting married in August I know there will be people moving requirements in my future, sister in law is coming up from Texas... the in-laws, and all our friends helping... if nothing else if I sold the tug and got the Suburban until fall it would work out fine. the seats in the suburban look superb... we'll see if they feel as nice as they look. the blazer I had was one notch up from the base model... if I have to swap seats I'm not even going to make an offer. :) perhaps I need an intervention... my Diesel addiction is causing issues... can find a number of affordable Jeep Cherokees that will meet all my needs, except for the Diesel/Biodiesel issue. ;) I can't get off the juice... ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Edward Pomeroy wrote: # John # # Seeing I worked with the H1 Hummer as a sales guy, the best you got out of # these beasts was 15MPG on a good day with tail wind. Now the Burban is a bit # more aerodynamic than the HUMMER but the hummer is actually lighter curb # weight. I would say that the figure is possible but sounds a bit optimistic. # If you are getting a low price for the Suburban, it might be a good deal. If # you do get it and then decide it is not for you, I might be interested in a # diesel Suburban at the right price :-) # Keep us informed on what happens... # # Edward # # diesel john wrote: # > found a nice looking '94 3/4t Suburban 6.5L TD... has # > bare metal floor in back with barn doors... supposedly a barrel # > will fit easily in the back... has a receiver hitch... owner claims 17 mpg # > around # > town... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:52:02 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: which oil? trying to decide which amsoil synthetic Diesel oil to use in the cj-10a... in my '91 300D I use the HDD (5w30), in my 6.2/6.5's and my son's '85 300D have always used the AME (15w40 marine grade). The ACD is another option, basically heavy duty 30W. all three are rated at 25,000 drain intervals for normal use... my question is which one will allow the best fuel economy in the tug? all the specs are listed below but I haven't been keeping up on all the spec info on the synthetics for some time... I'm thinking the HDD 5w30 will get the best mileage... thoughts? john TYPICAL TECHNICAL PROPERTIES 25,000 mile intervals in normal use, 15,000 severe duty AMSOIL Synthetic Diesel Oils HDD AME ACD price per quart $10.40 $7.90 $7.76 price per gallon $41.00 $31.05 $31.05 SAE weight 5W30 15W40 10W30 Kinematic Viscosity -at- 100B0C, cSt (ASTM D-445) 11.3 14.2 10.5 Kinematic Viscosity -at- 40B0C, cSt (ASTM D-445) 64.9 93.2 66.3 Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270) 170 157 141 Cold Crank Simulator Apparent Viscosity -at- -30B0C, cP (ASTM D-5293) 5160 4386 5917 Pour Point B0C (B0F) (ASTM D-97) -50 (-58) -42 (-44) -36 (-33) Flash Point B0C (B0F) (ASTM D-92) 226 (439) 238(460) 230(446) Fire Point B0C (B0F) (ASTM D-92) 242 (468) 256(493) 248(478) Noack Volatility (DIN 51581) 250B0C for 1 hour, % weight loss 7.3 7 6.7 High Temperature/High Shear Viscosity, cP, 150B0C, 1.0 x 106 s-1 (ASTM D-4683) 3.4 4.3 n/a Four-Ball Wear Test (ASTM D-4172: 40kgf, 150B0C, 1800 rpm, 1 hr) Scar diameter, mm 0.38 0.35 0.4 Total Base Number 12.1 12.1 12 AMSOIL Series 3000 Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy-Duty Diesel Oil (HDD) HDD AMSOIL Synthetic Diesel & Marine Motor Oil SAE 15W-40 AME AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-30/SAE 30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil ACD HDD AMSOIL Series 3000 100% Synthetic 5W-30 Diesel Oil (HDD) delivers extraordinary lubrication in both diesel and gasoline engines found in commercial, fleet and personal vehicles. By combining the industry.s premier synthetic technology with AMSOIL premium additives, AMSOIL Series 3000 exceeds the higher performance demands of modern engines. It withstands the stress of higher heat, higher acid levels and excessive soot loading found in EGR-equipped engines. AMSOIL Series 3000 Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil consistently outperforms conventional and synthetic diesel oils for long-lasting performance and protection. AME AMSOIL Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel & Marine Motor Oil (AME) is a premium diesel oil providing excellent performance in all types of diesel engines where highly effective control of wear and deposits is vital. Built with heavy-duty dispersant/detergent additives, its 12 TBN chemistry neutralizes acids and controls soot thickening from EGR and blow-by to protect against corrosion, cylinder bore polishing (wear) and varnish/sludge deposits. AMSOIL AME resists heat and breakdown better than conventional petroleum oils for long lasting performance and protection. ACD AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-30/SAE 30 Diesel Oil (ACD) is formulated with premium synthetic base oils that exceed both 10W-30 multi-grade and SAE 30 straight-grade viscosity requirements for outstanding performance in modern and older diesel engines. Unlike conventional SAE 30 motor oils, AMSOIL ACD has a naturally high viscosity index and does not contain paraffin (wax). It has a -36B0F pour point and qualifies for SAE 10W, making it an .all season. multi-grade lubricant with a wide operating temperature range. AMSOIL ACD is formulated without viscosity index improvers (VI). This shear stable formulation stops viscosity loss and associated bearing and cylinder bore wear. AMSOIL ACD contains premium additives with a high 12 TBN to neutralize acids from blow-by, exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) and high sulfur diesel fuels. It protects against damaging piston deposits, ring sticking and sludge. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 06:15:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:33:45 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: which oil? 15W40 was the spec used on the Canadian tugs. The clearances on a not so new motor are probably too loose to run the 5W30 w/o catastrophic results. > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:52:02 -0700 > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > To: > Subject: fsj: which oil? > > trying to decide which amsoil synthetic Diesel oil to use in the cj-10a... > > in my '91 300D I use the HDD (5w30), > in my 6.2/6.5's and my son's '85 300D have always used the AME (15w40 marine > grade). > The ACD is another option, basically heavy duty 30W. > > all three are rated at 25,000 drain intervals for normal use... > > my question is which one will allow the best fuel economy in the tug? all > the specs are listed below but I haven't been keeping up on all the spec info > on the synthetics for some time... > > I'm thinking the HDD 5w30 will get the best mileage... thoughts? > > john > > > > TYPICAL TECHNICAL PROPERTIES > 25,000 mile intervals in normal use, 15,000 severe duty > AMSOIL Synthetic Diesel Oils HDD AME ACD > price per quart $10.40 $7.90 $7.76 > price per gallon $41.00 $31.05 $31.05 > SAE weight 5W30 15W40 10W30 > Kinematic Viscosity -at- 100B0C, cSt (ASTM D-445) 11.3 14.2 10.5 > Kinematic Viscosity -at- 40B0C, cSt (ASTM D-445) 64.9 93.2 66.3 > Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270) 170 157 141 > Cold Crank Simulator Apparent Viscosity -at- -30B0C, cP (ASTM D-5293) 5160 4386 > 5917 > Pour Point B0C (B0F) (ASTM D-97) -50 (-58) -42 (-44) -36 (-33) > Flash Point B0C (B0F) (ASTM D-92) 226 (439) 238(460) 230(446) > Fire Point B0C (B0F) (ASTM D-92) 242 (468) 256(493) 248(478) > Noack Volatility (DIN 51581) 250B0C for 1 hour, % weight loss 7.3 7 6.7 > High Temperature/High Shear Viscosity, cP, 150B0C, 1.0 x 106 s-1 (ASTM D-4683) > 3.4 4.3 n/a > Four-Ball Wear Test (ASTM D-4172: 40kgf, 150B0C, 1800 rpm, 1 hr) Scar > diameter, mm 0.38 0.35 0.4 > Total Base Number 12.1 12.1 12 > > > AMSOIL Series 3000 Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy-Duty Diesel Oil (HDD) HDD > AMSOIL Synthetic Diesel & Marine Motor Oil SAE 15W-40 AME > AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-30/SAE 30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil ACD > > HDD AMSOIL Series 3000 100% Synthetic 5W-30 Diesel Oil (HDD) delivers > extraordinary lubrication in both diesel and gasoline engines found in > commercial, fleet and personal vehicles. By combining the industry.s premier > synthetic technology with AMSOIL premium additives, AMSOIL Series 3000 exceeds > the higher performance demands of modern engines. It withstands the stress of > higher heat, higher acid levels and excessive soot loading found in > EGR-equipped engines. AMSOIL Series 3000 Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil > consistently outperforms conventional and synthetic diesel oils for > long-lasting performance and protection. > AME AMSOIL Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel & Marine Motor Oil (AME) is a premium > diesel oil providing excellent performance in all types of diesel engines > where highly effective control of wear and deposits is vital. Built with > heavy-duty dispersant/detergent additives, its 12 TBN chemistry neutralizes > acids and controls soot thickening from EGR and blow-by to protect against > corrosion, cylinder bore polishing (wear) and varnish/sludge deposits. AMSOIL > AME resists heat and breakdown better than conventional petroleum oils for > long lasting performance and protection. > ACD AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-30/SAE 30 Diesel Oil (ACD) is formulated with premium > synthetic base oils that exceed both 10W-30 multi-grade and SAE 30 > straight-grade viscosity requirements for outstanding performance in modern > and older diesel engines. Unlike conventional SAE 30 motor oils, AMSOIL ACD > has a naturally high viscosity index and does not contain paraffin (wax). It > has a -36B0F pour point and qualifies for SAE 10W, making it an .all season. > multi-grade lubricant with a wide operating temperature range. AMSOIL ACD is > formulated without viscosity index improvers (VI). This shear stable > formulation stops viscosity loss and associated bearing and cylinder bore > wear. AMSOIL ACD contains premium additives with a high 12 TBN to neutralize > acids from blow-by, exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) and high sulfur diesel > fuels. It protects against damaging piston deposits, ring sticking and sludge. > > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_WhatsNew1_052009 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3320 **************************