From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun May 10 22:01:45 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, May 11 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3325 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) fsj: the future? RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) fsj: more pictures RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 14:41:44 -0700 From: Joe Hughes Subject: fsj: Re: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Joe wrote: > Pictures (mostly of spare parts): > > http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2157 > > > > Short term plans: > > Find a TH700 to put behind the buick 231 V6, preferably with a passenger > side transfer case. Could live with a 2wd tranny for now. > > > > Long term plans: > > Find a <= ^R98 6bt cummins diesel pickup (mechanical pump), narrow the dana > 60 rear end, waggy front end (D44), waggy frame. > > -OR- > > Body swap with a 90^Rs blazer that has a 6.5 turbo diesel. This swap would > be easiest but the engine can^Rt be modded for much more power like the 6bt. > The axles wouldn^Rt need to be narrowed and the wheelbase is very close to > the wagon. > > > > > > > > Joe Hughes > > Everett, WA > > 22 Willys-Overland Touring > > 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis > > 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) > > 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) > > 88 Honda CBR-600 > > 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L > > 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 14:43:26 -0700 From: "Joe" Subject: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) Pictures (mostly of spare parts): http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2157 Short term plans: Find a TH700 to put behind the buick 231 V6, preferably with a passenger side transfer case. Could live with a 2wd tranny for now. Long term plans: Find a <= '98 6bt cummins diesel pickup (mechanical pump), narrow the dana 60 rear end, waggy front end (D44), waggy frame. - -OR- Body swap with a 90's blazer that has a 6.5 turbo diesel. This swap would be easiest but the engine can't be modded for much more power like the 6bt. The axles wouldn't need to be narrowed and the wheelbase is very close to the wagon. Joe Hughes Everett, WA 22 Willys-Overland Touring 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) 88 Honda CBR-600 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 18:24:17 -0700 (PDT) From: JeepNut Subject: fsj: the future? ...a snapshot of design concepts from the company that will be building Jeeps next?... http://tiny.cc/vcmbp JeepNut - ---------------------------------------------------------- '04 Grand Cherokee Laredo. Bone stock. It's hers. '92 Cherokee Laredo, bought new, still in daily use... '87 Street Comanche #24/100. In storage. '88 Grand Wagoneer - '81 AMC 360 -.030 over- Edelbrock Performer/1400 600cfm 4bbl, TFI System upgrade, TF727 -mild kit- NP229, D44's F/R -3:31- B.J.'s Offroad 6" kit/ drop pittman, stainless extended brake lines, ProComp 3000 shocks, Maxxis Buckshot 33x12.5x15 14 Spoke OEM Wagonwheels, IPF 65/55 lamps...and then some. - ---------------------------------------------------------- Registered Linux user #287453 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:40:00 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) I think the T5 was mated to the BOP pattern 231 in my old Buick Skyhawk (that I sold to my ex-wife's current hubby just before they met) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > From: joe-at-j-hughes.com > To: carnuck1-at-msn.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:05 -0700 > > That was going to be my next question. > > BOP or Chevy?: > http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2274 > > So when I go to Pull-a-Part today, what should I be looking for? Believe it > or not my wife would prefer a manual. Maybe I should be looking for a > 5-speed BOP manual. > > Joe H. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Blair [mailto:carnuck1-at-msn.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:27 PM > To: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) > > > Too bad the 231 uses the BOPCad pattern. There is no 700R4 that will bolt up > (or there would be some very excited Buick enthusiasts!) but there is a > 200R4 which can be beefed (but only comes in 2WD) > > Actually, there is one, but it was only used a couple years in military Olds > V8 converted diesels. > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: joe-at-j-hughes.com > > To: fsj-at-digest.net > > Subject: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) > > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:55:54 -0700 > > > > Pictures (mostly of spare parts): > > > > http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2157 > > > > > > > > Short term plans: > > > > Find a TH700 to put behind the buick 231 V6, preferably with a passenger > > side transfer case. Could live with a 2wd tranny for now. > > > > > > > > Long term plans: > > > > Find a <= '98 6bt cummins diesel pickup (mechanical pump), narrow the dana > > 60 rear end, waggy front end (D44), waggy frame. > > > > -OR- > > > > Body swap with a 90's blazer that has a 6.5 turbo diesel. This swap would > > be easiest but the engine can't be modded for much more power like the > 6bt. > > The axles wouldn't need to be narrowed and the wheelbase is very close to > > the wagon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe Hughes > > > > Everett, WA > > > > 22 Willys-Overland Touring > > > > 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis > > > > 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) > > > > 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) > > > > 88 Honda CBR-600 > > > > 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L > > > > 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L > _________________________________________________________________ > HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria > l_Storage1_052009= _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_ Mobile1_052009 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:31:26 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: more pictures hope y'all had a nice weekend... john http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/2009_May_10_new_paint_in_daylight/ALL.html http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/2009_May_09_PAINTED_n_AMSOIL_15w40/ALL.html http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/05-May-10-MothersDay-misc/ http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/05-May-09-garden-snohomish/ http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/05-May-04-787-garden-tug/ALL.html http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/04-Apr-26-Tulips-MtVernonWA-WVO-BioDiesel/ALL.html http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/0_best-of-CJ-10A.html http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/ALL-pix/ALL-85pct.html ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:20:50 -0700 From: "Joe" Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) He said it had a th400 on it last, but of course it's been sitting for 20 years, so I wouldn't be surprised if he forgot. I've compared a couple patterns and it looks closest to the BOP pattern. I think we are giving up on this motor though. I think for the immediate future we are going to pick up a 82 or newer blazer. They seem to be the easiest body swap that will give us EFI, and a 4 speed auto, and they have nearly the same wheelbase and only a couple inches wider. http://www.wx4.org/to/wagons/usefulstuff/pure_yanger.html Blazer Wagon Wheelbase 106.5 104.5 Width 63 57 I may have to clearance the rear fenders or some big bump stops. Joe H. - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Blair [mailto:carnuck1-at-msn.com] Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:24 PM To: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) Wow! That's the nailhead adapter ring! Did it have a TH400? Can't tell for sure if it's BOP behind that adapter for sure, but if it's U shaped top, then it is. The other option would be 60 degree V6/late model Caddy V8 pattern (flat top pattern). Round top is Chev and the low round (like on that ring) is nailhead Buick. - ---------------------------------------- > From: joe-at-j-hughes.com > To: carnuck1-at-msn.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:05 -0700 > > That was going to be my next question. > > BOP or Chevy?: > http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2274 > > So when I go to Pull-a-Part today, what should I be looking for? Believe it > or not my wife would prefer a manual. Maybe I should be looking for a > 5-speed BOP manual. > > Joe H. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Blair [mailto:carnuck1-at-msn.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:27 PM > To: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) > > > Too bad the 231 uses the BOPCad pattern. There is no 700R4 that will bolt up > (or there would be some very excited Buick enthusiasts!) but there is a > 200R4 which can be beefed (but only comes in 2WD) > > Actually, there is one, but it was only used a couple years in military Olds > V8 converted diesels. > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: joe-at-j-hughes.com >> To: fsj-at-digest.net >> Subject: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) >> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:55:54 -0700 >> >> Pictures (mostly of spare parts): >> >> http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2157 >> >> >> >> Short term plans: >> >> Find a TH700 to put behind the buick 231 V6, preferably with a passenger >> side transfer case. Could live with a 2wd tranny for now. >> >> >> >> Long term plans: >> >> Find a <= '98 6bt cummins diesel pickup (mechanical pump), narrow the dana >> 60 rear end, waggy front end (D44), waggy frame. >> >> -OR- >> >> Body swap with a 90's blazer that has a 6.5 turbo diesel. This swap would >> be easiest but the engine can't be modded for much more power like the > 6bt. >> The axles wouldn't need to be narrowed and the wheelbase is very close to >> the wagon. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Joe Hughes >> >> Everett, WA >> >> 22 Willys-Overland Touring >> >> 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis >> >> 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) >> >> 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) >> >> 88 Honda CBR-600 >> >> 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L >> >> 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L > _________________________________________________________________ > HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria > l_Storage1_052009= _________________________________________________________________ HotmailR goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial _Mobile1_052009= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:40:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) I've been looking at a variety of Diesel Blazers... or are you going for gas? john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sun, 10 May 2009, Joe wrote: # He said it had a th400 on it last, but of course it's been sitting for 20 # years, so I wouldn't be surprised if he forgot. # # I've compared a couple patterns and it looks closest to the BOP pattern. # # I think we are giving up on this motor though. I think for the immediate # future we are going to pick up a 82 or newer blazer. They seem to be the # easiest body swap that will give us EFI, and a 4 speed auto, and they have # nearly the same wheelbase and only a couple inches wider. # # http://www.wx4.org/to/wagons/usefulstuff/pure_yanger.html # # Blazer Wagon # Wheelbase 106.5 104.5 # Width 63 57 # # I may have to clearance the rear fenders or some big bump stops. # # Joe H. # # -----Original Message----- # From: Jim Blair [mailto:carnuck1-at-msn.com] # Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:24 PM # To: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net # Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # # # # Wow! That's the nailhead adapter ring! Did it have a TH400? Can't tell for # sure if it's BOP behind that adapter for sure, but if it's U shaped top, # then it is. The other option would be 60 degree V6/late model Caddy V8 # pattern (flat top pattern). Round top is Chev and the low round (like on # that ring) is nailhead Buick. # # # # # # # # ---------------------------------------- # > From: joe-at-j-hughes.com # > To: carnuck1-at-msn.com # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:05 -0700 # > # > That was going to be my next question. # > # > BOP or Chevy?: # > http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2274 # > # > So when I go to Pull-a-Part today, what should I be looking for? Believe # it # > or not my wife would prefer a manual. Maybe I should be looking for a # > 5-speed BOP manual. # > # > Joe H. # > # > # > -----Original Message----- # > From: Jim Blair [mailto:carnuck1-at-msn.com] # > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:27 PM # > To: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # > # > # > Too bad the 231 uses the BOPCad pattern. There is no 700R4 that will bolt # up # > (or there would be some very excited Buick enthusiasts!) but there is a # > 200R4 which can be beefed (but only comes in 2WD) # > # > Actually, there is one, but it was only used a couple years in military # Olds # > V8 converted diesels. # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > ---------------------------------------- # >> From: joe-at-j-hughes.com # >> To: fsj-at-digest.net # >> Subject: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # >> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:55:54 -0700 # >> # >> Pictures (mostly of spare parts): # >> # >> http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2157 # >> # >> # >> # >> Short term plans: # >> # >> Find a TH700 to put behind the buick 231 V6, preferably with a passenger # >> side transfer case. Could live with a 2wd tranny for now. # >> # >> # >> # >> Long term plans: # >> # >> Find a <= '98 6bt cummins diesel pickup (mechanical pump), narrow the # dana # >> 60 rear end, waggy front end (D44), waggy frame. # >> # >> -OR- # >> # >> Body swap with a 90's blazer that has a 6.5 turbo diesel. This swap would # >> be easiest but the engine can't be modded for much more power like the # > 6bt. # >> The axles wouldn't need to be narrowed and the wheelbase is very close to # >> the wagon. # >> # >> # >> # >> # >> # >> # >> # >> Joe Hughes # >> # >> Everett, WA # >> # >> 22 Willys-Overland Touring # >> # >> 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis # >> # >> 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) # >> # >> 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) # >> # >> 88 Honda CBR-600 # >> # >> 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L # >> # >> 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L # > _________________________________________________________________ # > HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. # > # http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria # > l_Storage1_052009= # _________________________________________________________________ # HotmailR goes with you. # http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial # _Mobile1_052009= # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:41:36 -0700 From: "Joe" Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) I really don't want the 6.2L and there doesn't seem to be any 6.5L blazers or 2 door 6.5L Tahoe's for sale, so it looks like I have to settle for a gas motor, until I can afford the 6bt with a manual. Joe H. - -----Original Message----- From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:41 PM To: Joe Cc: 'Jim Blair'; fsj-at-digest.net Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) I've been looking at a variety of Diesel Blazers... or are you going for gas? john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sun, 10 May 2009, Joe wrote: # He said it had a th400 on it last, but of course it's been sitting for 20 # years, so I wouldn't be surprised if he forgot. # # I've compared a couple patterns and it looks closest to the BOP pattern. # # I think we are giving up on this motor though. I think for the immediate # future we are going to pick up a 82 or newer blazer. They seem to be the # easiest body swap that will give us EFI, and a 4 speed auto, and they have # nearly the same wheelbase and only a couple inches wider. # # http://www.wx4.org/to/wagons/usefulstuff/pure_yanger.html # # Blazer Wagon # Wheelbase 106.5 104.5 # Width 63 57 # # I may have to clearance the rear fenders or some big bump stops. # # Joe H. # # -----Original Message----- # From: Jim Blair [mailto:carnuck1-at-msn.com] # Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:24 PM # To: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net # Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # # # # Wow! That's the nailhead adapter ring! Did it have a TH400? Can't tell for # sure if it's BOP behind that adapter for sure, but if it's U shaped top, # then it is. The other option would be 60 degree V6/late model Caddy V8 # pattern (flat top pattern). Round top is Chev and the low round (like on # that ring) is nailhead Buick. # # # # # # # # ---------------------------------------- # > From: joe-at-j-hughes.com # > To: carnuck1-at-msn.com # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:05 -0700 # > # > That was going to be my next question. # > # > BOP or Chevy?: # > http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2274 # > # > So when I go to Pull-a-Part today, what should I be looking for? Believe # it # > or not my wife would prefer a manual. Maybe I should be looking for a # > 5-speed BOP manual. # > # > Joe H. # > # > # > -----Original Message----- # > From: Jim Blair [mailto:carnuck1-at-msn.com] # > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:27 PM # > To: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # > # > # > Too bad the 231 uses the BOPCad pattern. There is no 700R4 that will bolt # up # > (or there would be some very excited Buick enthusiasts!) but there is a # > 200R4 which can be beefed (but only comes in 2WD) # > # > Actually, there is one, but it was only used a couple years in military # Olds # > V8 converted diesels. # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > ---------------------------------------- # >> From: joe-at-j-hughes.com # >> To: fsj-at-digest.net # >> Subject: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # >> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:55:54 -0700 # >> # >> Pictures (mostly of spare parts): # >> # >> http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2157 # >> # >> # >> # >> Short term plans: # >> # >> Find a TH700 to put behind the buick 231 V6, preferably with a passenger # >> side transfer case. Could live with a 2wd tranny for now. # >> # >> # >> # >> Long term plans: # >> # >> Find a <= '98 6bt cummins diesel pickup (mechanical pump), narrow the # dana # >> 60 rear end, waggy front end (D44), waggy frame. # >> # >> -OR- # >> # >> Body swap with a 90's blazer that has a 6.5 turbo diesel. This swap would # >> be easiest but the engine can't be modded for much more power like the # > 6bt. # >> The axles wouldn't need to be narrowed and the wheelbase is very close to # >> the wagon. # >> # >> # >> # >> # >> # >> # >> # >> Joe Hughes # >> # >> Everett, WA # >> # >> 22 Willys-Overland Touring # >> # >> 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis # >> # >> 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) # >> # >> 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) # >> # >> 88 Honda CBR-600 # >> # >> 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L # >> # >> 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L # > _________________________________________________________________ # > HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. # > # http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria # > l_Storage1_052009= # _________________________________________________________________ # HotmailR goes with you. # http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial # _Mobile1_052009= # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 22:01:30 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) I test drove a '94 suburban with a 6.5 last week, was 4k. not sure you really want a 6.5... had one... my 6.2 got better mileage... of course the 6.5 has better glow plugs and just seems better... more power, but not as good with economy... will be considering another 6.2 for superdawg, pretty sure the 6at is still in the plans at this point... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sun, 10 May 2009, Joe wrote: # I really don't want the 6.2L and there doesn't seem to be any 6.5L blazers # or 2 door 6.5L Tahoe's for sale, so it looks like I have to settle for a gas # motor, until I can afford the 6bt with a manual. # # Joe H. # # -----Original Message----- # From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] # Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:41 PM # To: Joe # Cc: 'Jim Blair'; fsj-at-digest.net # Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # # I've been looking at a variety of Diesel Blazers... or are you # going for gas? # # john # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Sun, 10 May 2009, Joe wrote: # # # He said it had a th400 on it last, but of course it's been sitting for 20 # # years, so I wouldn't be surprised if he forgot. # # # # I've compared a couple patterns and it looks closest to the BOP pattern. # # # # I think we are giving up on this motor though. I think for the immediate # # future we are going to pick up a 82 or newer blazer. They seem to be the # # easiest body swap that will give us EFI, and a 4 speed auto, and they # have # # nearly the same wheelbase and only a couple inches wider. # # # # http://www.wx4.org/to/wagons/usefulstuff/pure_yanger.html # # # # Blazer Wagon # # Wheelbase 106.5 104.5 # # Width 63 57 # # # # I may have to clearance the rear fenders or some big bump stops. # # # # Joe H. # # # # -----Original Message----- # # From: Jim Blair [mailto:carnuck1-at-msn.com] # # Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:24 PM # # To: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net # # Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # # # # # # # # Wow! That's the nailhead adapter ring! Did it have a TH400? Can't tell # for # # sure if it's BOP behind that adapter for sure, but if it's U shaped top, # # then it is. The other option would be 60 degree V6/late model Caddy V8 # # pattern (flat top pattern). Round top is Chev and the low round (like on # # that ring) is nailhead Buick. # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ---------------------------------------- # # > From: joe-at-j-hughes.com # # > To: carnuck1-at-msn.com # # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # # > Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # # > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:05 -0700 # # > # # > That was going to be my next question. # # > # # > BOP or Chevy?: # # > http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2274 # # > # # > So when I go to Pull-a-Part today, what should I be looking for? # Believe # # it # # > or not my wife would prefer a manual. Maybe I should be looking for a # # > 5-speed BOP manual. # # > # # > Joe H. # # > # # > # # > -----Original Message----- # # > From: Jim Blair [mailto:carnuck1-at-msn.com] # # > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:27 PM # # > To: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net # # > Subject: RE: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # # > # # > # # > Too bad the 231 uses the BOPCad pattern. There is no 700R4 that will # bolt # # up # # > (or there would be some very excited Buick enthusiasts!) but there is a # # > 200R4 which can be beefed (but only comes in 2WD) # # > # # > Actually, there is one, but it was only used a couple years in military # # Olds # # > V8 converted diesels. # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > ---------------------------------------- # # >> From: joe-at-j-hughes.com # # >> To: fsj-at-digest.net # # >> Subject: fsj: 1950 Willys Wagon (Wife's Willys) # # >> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:55:54 -0700 # # >> # # >> Pictures (mostly of spare parts): # # >> # # >> http://www.hughes-family.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2157 # # >> # # >> # # >> # # >> Short term plans: # # >> # # >> Find a TH700 to put behind the buick 231 V6, preferably with a # passenger # # >> side transfer case. Could live with a 2wd tranny for now. # # >> # # >> # # >> # # >> Long term plans: # # >> # # >> Find a <= '98 6bt cummins diesel pickup (mechanical pump), narrow the # # dana # # >> 60 rear end, waggy front end (D44), waggy frame. # # >> # # >> -OR- # # >> # # >> Body swap with a 90's blazer that has a 6.5 turbo diesel. This swap # would # # >> be easiest but the engine can't be modded for much more power like the # # > 6bt. # # >> The axles wouldn't need to be narrowed and the wheelbase is very close # to # # >> the wagon. # # >> # # >> # # >> # # >> # # >> # # >> # # >> # # >> Joe Hughes # # >> # # >> Everett, WA # # >> # # >> 22 Willys-Overland Touring # # >> # # >> 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis # # >> # # >> 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) # # >> # # >> 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) # # >> # # >> 88 Honda CBR-600 # # >> # # >> 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L # # >> # # >> 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L # # > _________________________________________________________________ # # > HotmailR has ever-growing storage! 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