From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Jun 2 07:15:44 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, June 2 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3341 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: Diesel tach? fsj: Re: [CJ-10List] Diesel tach? fsj: good thoughts on the rodent issue RE: fsj: good thoughts on the rodent issue FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:15:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? [this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, many phrases found commonly in spam are automatically blocked. h) are you using "funky" character sets? [7 bit restriction lifted experimentally on 8/2/00 -- film at 11] unfortunately, there are "issues" if i permit any character set other than old fashioned 7 level ASCII; therefore, you need to avoid national character sets that include various accents, umlauts, national currency characters such as the British pound symbol, etc. i) are you unintentionally including complete digests in your reply? You need to check and make sure you cut down replys to the minimal size; digests are between 20,000 and 25,000 characters in length, and if you include a complete digest in your reply, it clearly won't make the 10,000 character limit. By the way, this feature is intentional. j) Are you using a "bad" ISP or mail relay? See http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html for more information about Digest.Net policies about email. k) Is the error message you get back "User Unknown"? If so, you may be running afoul of spam control severices (again, see http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html) When these services register a hit, the error code 550 is returned. 550 is a generic code that many broken mail systems report as "user unknown". The "rejectlog" entries for the previous day's mail traffic on digest.net may be viewed at http://www.digest.net/rejectlog.01 Some of you may find it useful or instructive to use the telnet program to connect directly to port 25 on krusty-motorsports.com and see what kind of reply you get; this requires some technical knowledge and is not for everyone (you can get out of this at anytime after the initial banner simply by typing quit and hitting enter.) l) Is SMTP over TLS involved? This is a bit esoteric, but as of 8/8/01 the digest.net mail server will attempt to use "TLS" (Transport Layer Security) for outbound mail if the destination mail server offers it. SMTP over TLS is fairly new technology, and a bit buggy. I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:46:18 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Diesel tach? Would these be connected to the alternator??? How do you set it up for 12 pulses per revolution? 4000 RPM Tachometer They are high quality, new, Beede brand. 5 inch bezel, real nice looking, presumably for a diesel boat engine. These particular units are set up for applications using a 12 pulse per revolution signal. http://images.craigslist.org/3k43m23obZZZZZZZZZ961f3b6ae5542bb1b22.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/3n03k03l9ZZZZZZZZZ961f08dbefd8d9412b7.jpg ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -- ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:13:56 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: Re: [CJ-10List] Diesel tach? interesting little product... wish they had an analog display unit though. http://tinytach.com/tinytach/diesel.php not a bad price either. thanx, john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, david-at-lang.hm wrote: # On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, john wrote: # # > Would these be connected to the alternator??? # # impossible to tell # # > How do you set it up for 12 pulses per revolution? # # probably something internal (may be configurable, may not be) # # > 4000 RPM Tachometer They are high quality, new, Beede brand. # > 5 inch bezel, real nice looking, presumably for a diesel boat engine. # > These particular units are set up for applications using a 12 pulse per revolution signal. # > # > # > http://images.craigslist.org/3k43m23obZZZZZZZZZ961f3b6ae5542bb1b22.jpg # > http://images.craigslist.org/3n03k03l9ZZZZZZZZZ961f08dbefd8d9412b7.jpg # # the SD33 engines do not have a tach signal to put into this. # # you may be able toe derive one from the alternator (but then you have to # worry about the pully ratio of the alternator) # # take a look at tinytach.com, their diesel tachs connect over one of the # injector lines and derive the rpm from that. # # David Lang # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:15:31 -0400 From: wallacem7-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: good thoughts on the rodent issue Thanks Jim and Michel for the thoughts on rodent control. I put a Tuna can of pine sol on the passenger side floor of the Jeep and two out in the shed. I had to evict something like three families of mice from the shed some had made nests in boxes of car parts and one family had moved into my router table. we'll see how that works out. Too bad for you guys who have to pass an inspection where the cat has to be state certified. When I lived in Michigan I ran a straight pipe on the street for several months, no cat, no muffler. I would just get off the loud pedal whenever I passed a cop and I never had any trouble. Of course during the summer hot rods with straight pipes or uncorked headers were pretty common. So was the smell of "not for highway use" race gas. When I lived in Massachussetts I would get pulled over from time to time with dual glass packs which were a lot quieter than straight pipes.? And I wonder why my hearing is so bad. ?As far as my brushed on flames paint job, that was always meant as a temporary thing. I don't remember the exact cost of it...I think two cans of rust-oleum, a 79 cent disposible brush and a few cans of PBR. And to think there was a point in time when I did $10,000 paint jobs for a living. I still have the skills and the sanding blocks to do that kind of work. I suspect I will be attacking the Wagoneer with the cutoff wheel and the welder and the spot weld cutter later this month. Does anybody have a good idea what the body without interior or closures weighs? I'd like to pull it off to repair the frame and paint everything. . regards Mark Wallace 81 Wagoneer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:15:03 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: good thoughts on the rodent issue It might be easier to just swap the frame to one that isn't rusty (VERY common out here. I saw 2 for sale recently for -at-$200) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 - ---------------------------------------- > To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: good thoughts on the rodent issue > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 00:15:31 -0400 > From: wallacem7-at-aol.com > > Thanks Jim and Michel for the thoughts on rodent control. I put a Tuna can of pine sol on the passenger side floor of the Jeep and two out in the shed. I had to evict something like three families of mice from the shed some had made nests in boxes of car parts and one family had moved into my router table. we'll see how that works out. > > Too bad for you guys who have to pass an inspection where the cat has to be state certified. When I lived in Michigan I ran a straight pipe on the street for several months, no cat, no muffler. I would just get off the loud pedal whenever I passed a cop and I never had any trouble. Of course during the summer hot rods with straight pipes or uncorked headers were pretty common. So was the smell of "not for highway use" race gas. When I lived in Massachussetts I would get pulled over from time to time with dual glass packs which were a lot quieter than straight pipes.? And I wonder why my hearing is so bad. > > ?As far as my brushed on flames paint job, that was always meant as a temporary thing. I don't remember the exact cost of it...I think two cans of rust-oleum, a 79 cent disposible brush and a few cans of PBR. And to think there was a point in time when I did $10,000 paint jobs for a living. I still have the skills and the sanding blocks to do that kind of work. I suspect I will be attacking the Wagoneer with the cutoff wheel and the welder and the spot weld cutter later this month. Does anybody have a good idea what the body without interior or closures weighs? I'd like to pull it off to repair the frame and paint everything. . > > regards > > Mark Wallace > 81 Wagoneer _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live^Y: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3341 **************************