From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Jun 7 21:35:38 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, June 8 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3347 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night Re: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night RE: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night RE: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night Re: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night fsj: Frames, weights and being a little nuts FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 12:45:55 -0700 From: "Joe" Subject: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night I saw a really nice CJ-10 last night. It obviously a brand new professional beige paint job on it. It was spotted on Airport Road last night in Everett. It seemed pretty powerful too because I had troubles catching it up the hill on 128th ST in my 6bt powered Dodge ram. Joe Hughes Everett, WA 22 Willys-Overland Touring 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) 88 Honda CBR-600 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L 95 Dodge 2500 6bt, 47RH 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 14:12:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night yeah, funny, I saw a really cool dodge pickup on the same road last night... pretty cool front suspension, could see it in my mirrors... ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Joe wrote: # I saw a really nice CJ-10 last night. It obviously a brand new professional # beige paint job on it. It was spotted on Airport Road last night in # Everett. # # # # It seemed pretty powerful too because I had troubles catching it up the hill # on 128th ST in my 6bt powered Dodge ram. # # # # Joe Hughes # # Everett, WA # # 22 Willys-Overland Touring # # 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis # # 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) # # 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) # # 88 Honda CBR-600 # # 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L # # 95 Dodge 2500 6bt, 47RH # # 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 14:18:12 -0700 From: "Joe" Subject: RE: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night Yeah, it's a pretty nice dodge, but it'll make a better Willys! It's definitely worth the $3200 I paid for it. I'm hoping to get some pictures of the Willys wagon and the dodge pickup, get some measurements and photoshop the two together to see what it will look like when it is done. I'm installing egt, boost, and trans temp gauges in the dodge right now. Joe H. - -----Original Message----- From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 2:12 PM To: Joe Cc: 'full size jeep list' Subject: Re: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night yeah, funny, I saw a really cool dodge pickup on the same road last night... pretty cool front suspension, could see it in my mirrors... ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Joe wrote: # I saw a really nice CJ-10 last night. It obviously a brand new professional # beige paint job on it. It was spotted on Airport Road last night in # Everett. # # # # It seemed pretty powerful too because I had troubles catching it up the hill # on 128th ST in my 6bt powered Dodge ram. # # # # Joe Hughes # # Everett, WA # # 22 Willys-Overland Touring # # 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis # # 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) # # 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) # # 88 Honda CBR-600 # # 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L # # 95 Dodge 2500 6bt, 47RH # # 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 19:33:14 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night that was a screamin' deal... nice looking... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Joe wrote: # Yeah, it's a pretty nice dodge, but it'll make a better Willys! It's # definitely worth the $3200 I paid for it. # # I'm hoping to get some pictures of the Willys wagon and the dodge pickup, # get some measurements and photoshop the two together to see what it will # look like when it is done. # # I'm installing egt, boost, and trans temp gauges in the dodge right now. # # Joe H. # # # -----Original Message----- # From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] # Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 2:12 PM # To: Joe # Cc: 'full size jeep list' # Subject: Re: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night # # yeah, funny, I saw a really cool dodge pickup on the # same road last night... pretty cool front suspension, # could see it in my mirrors... ;) # # # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Joe wrote: # # # I saw a really nice CJ-10 last night. It obviously a brand new # professional # # beige paint job on it. It was spotted on Airport Road last night in # # Everett. # # # # # # # # It seemed pretty powerful too because I had troubles catching it up the # hill # # on 128th ST in my 6bt powered Dodge ram. # # # # # # # # Joe Hughes # # # # Everett, WA # # # # 22 Willys-Overland Touring # # # # 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis # # # # 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) # # # # 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) # # # # 88 Honda CBR-600 # # # # 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L # # # # 95 Dodge 2500 6bt, 47RH # # # # 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L # # # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 22:34:38 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: Re: fsj: CJ-10 sighting last night I cut another 35 lbs or so off the tug today... used a metal cutting blade on my skil saw... cut a large chunk out of the bed... covered it up with a piece of diamond plate I had laying around. then we took it up to Mt. Vernon... did quite well, on the way up there I was getting bounced pretty hard. While my wife was at Christianson's nursery I crawled under the tug with a cresent wrench and loosened the add-a-leafs... ride home was a lot nicer. :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Joe wrote: # I saw a really nice CJ-10 last night. It obviously a brand new professional # beige paint job on it. It was spotted on Airport Road last night in # Everett. # # It seemed pretty powerful too because I had troubles catching it up the hill # on 128th ST in my 6bt powered Dodge ram. # # Joe Hughes # Everett, WA # 22 Willys-Overland Touring # 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis # 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) # 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) # 88 Honda CBR-600 # 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L # 95 Dodge 2500 6bt, 47RH # 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:34:25 -0400 From: wallacem7-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Frames, weights and being a little nuts Good to know that 2x4s on sawhorses will support a Wagoneer body. Not that I am going to attempt it, but I had guessed based on my time at Chrysler dealing with Ram and Durango bodies that it's around 700 lbs. 350 lbs on a 2x4 actually sounds fairly reasonable....not that I have any intention of attempting setting a full body down on 2x4's. ? Here's what I plan to do...if anybody sees any holes in this plan just say the word. I will start repairing the body with it on the frame...I need to do rocker panels, both quarters and the floor. I will also re-skin both drivers side doors, but re-skinning doors is a cake walk. With the body basically solid I will unbolt it from the frame and put eye bolts through the body mount holes and then lift it with a cherry picker. I will then put the body on the rolling dolly that I am building with the idea that I will use it first on my MGB, second on my Wagoneer and third on Dad's Model A. This way I can roll the body outside to sandblast, and then shoot the whole thing in the?correct early 80's metal flake dark red paint and then re-attach it to the restored frame. Do I need to shore up the body at all before I pull it? Weld in X-bracing across the door openings or a surrogate frame across the floor? (X bracing across the doors?is essential for replacing the sills...rocker panels in American... in an MGB) As for the frame I will try to repair the origional. An no, that doesn't make a ton of sense when I can realistically just replace the whole thing. When I was restoring exotics for a living one thing that we always did was preserve as much as the origional car as possible and that has just become habit. I'm pretty sure that I'm not as bad as those Corvette guys who insist on using 1950's paint technology because that's what GM used back in the day...or duplicating the factory inspection marks or scratching the frame the same way the assembly line did. Mark Wallace 81 Wagoneer ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3347 **************************