From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Jul 14 23:19:13 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, July 15 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3377 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: catching up on pictures... fsj: Re: catching up on pictures... fsj: just a few more items to do... Re: fsj: Re: catching up on pictures... Re: fsj: Re: catching up on pictures... fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:57:29 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: catching up on pictures... been under the weather for a week or so, respiratory issues... not enough rain and too many fireworks... starting to come back around, thankfully, raining today! one benefit of trying to hack up a lung in the middle of the night is that I was up early enough to see a pre-dawn clear sky and Venus... :) (yes, my camera goes with me just about every where... :) here's some pictures to catch up... http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-10-4am-Venus-Sunrise-JEM_1035.jpg http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-07-garden/ALL.html http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-05-jeep-cj10a-in-use/ http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-04-fireworks/ http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/06-Jun-28-drive-Bellevue-Seattle-Snohomish-Machias/ALL.html http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/06-Jun-21-garden-clouds/ALL.html in other news: - - ran the SD33T down to Centralia for the '83 J10 stepside project - - the '99 WJ is in the shop, axle bearings and seals, running great - - the '91 300d decided it didn't like air in it's tire... - - the '86 cj-10a's locking security console lock disintegrated, but last tank 21 mpg john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:28:29 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: catching up on pictures... daaaaang..... that garden is worth noting. didn't know you had that in your bag o' tricks. pretty killer. btw, i noticed the cedar shake shingles on all the roofs. any reason as to why so much of that and not asphalt or metal? seems like with all that rain, the shakes would gob up with mold, gook, etc... Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: fsj: catching up on pictures... > been under the weather for a week or so, respiratory issues... not enough rain > and too many fireworks... starting to come back around, thankfully, raining today! > > one benefit of trying to hack up a lung in the middle of the night is that I > was up early enough to see a pre-dawn clear sky and Venus... :) (yes, my > camera goes with me just about every where... :) > > here's some pictures to catch up... > > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-10-4am-Venus-Sunrise-JEM_1035.jpg > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-07-garden/ALL.html > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-05-jeep-cj10a-in-use/ > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-04-fireworks/ > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/06-Jun-28-drive-Bellevue-Seattle-Snohomish-Machias/ALL.html > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/06-Jun-21-garden-clouds/ALL.html > > > in other news: > - ran the SD33T down to Centralia for the '83 J10 stepside project > - the '99 WJ is in the shop, axle bearings and seals, running great > - the '91 300d decided it didn't like air in it's tire... > - the '86 cj-10a's locking security console lock disintegrated, but last tank 21 mpg > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:28:07 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: just a few more items to do... thinking about the '86 cj-10a project... it's come a long way and is doing quite well... waiting now for my '83 J10 stepside to see if we'll be able to fit the '80 SD33T. one thing I have learned about this rig is that it is much more Grand Wagoneer than it is a CJ-5 or 7. The ride is better, it's more stable, has six lug rims and is a lot heavier... makes me think that one could take a GW frame and shorten it a bit and put a CJ body on it... or not. ;) on my tug still "need": - get a rear "bed" cover - 4' x 5' wide - protect plants from wind and other stuff from rain - any ideas? - add shoulder/lap belts (any color) - got any out of a GW? - fix door locks - anyone have theirs working??? is it possible? - to fix the temp and fuel gauge - replace door window seals - get front end aligned so steering wheel is straight - replace front lamp housing on passenger side - consider mounting a spare tire (not even carrying a jack!) would also consider, if the J10 project goes sideways, to: - install an SD33T - add a/c - anyone done this on this cab? - replace doors with newer type (requires sheet metal mods) http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/0_best-of-CJ-10A.html If I end up keeping the tug after my J10 is finished I will have to add a/c, I learned the hard way that I can't be out in bad air like this... smoke, dust or times of heavy pollen I need to use a/c, or a respirator... and since I don't want to look like Darth Vader, I'll get a/c. :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:33:39 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: catching up on pictures... the garden is the better half's doing... thanx... she is a master at it, amazing what she has done with it all... me, I'm lucky if I don't kill plants by looking at them... :) My job is to drive the jeep to the nursery, sit and wait, then drive all of them (plants and wife) home... :) 20 years ago cedar roofing was affordable and used a lot on the "finer" homes. funny, my neighbor's house up the hill from me was built at the same time (circa 1984), his is larger, has a better view and comp roof... it only cost him around $74k, this house is smaller, two story, cedar siding and shake roof but sold for $84K. The shake holds up fine if you have a 12/12 pitch roof and no trees nearby... this is the original roof... we're waiting until after the wedding in August to start thinking about the expense of replacing it with comp or something else... I think we may have had it cleaned once since 1994 when we bought the place.. so, what you see is natural cedar shake in the PNW with little or no care... 25 years old... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sun, 12 Jul 2009, Neal Hoover wrote: # daaaaang..... that garden is worth noting. # didn't know you had that in your bag o' tricks. # pretty killer. # # btw, i noticed the cedar shake shingles on all the roofs. any reason as to # why so much of that and not asphalt or metal? seems like with all that # rain, the shakes would gob up with mold, gook, etc... # # Neal A. Hoover # Project '76 J-10 # Project '96 XJ # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # # # ----- Original Message ----- # From: "john" # To: # Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:57 PM # Subject: fsj: catching up on pictures... # # # > been under the weather for a week or so, respiratory issues... not enough # rain # > and too many fireworks... starting to come back around, thankfully, # raining today! # > # > one benefit of trying to hack up a lung in the middle of the night is that # I # > was up early enough to see a pre-dawn clear sky and Venus... :) (yes, my # > camera goes with me just about every where... :) # > # > here's some pictures to catch up... # > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-10-4am-Venus-Sunrise-JEM_1035.jpg # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-07-garden/ALL.html # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-05-jeep-cj10a-in-use/ # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-04-fireworks/ # > # http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/06-Jun-28-drive-Bellevue-Seattle-Snohomish-Machias/ALL.html # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/06-Jun-21-garden-clouds/ALL.html # > # > # > in other news: # > - ran the SD33T down to Centralia for the '83 J10 stepside project # > - the '99 WJ is in the shop, axle bearings and seals, running great # > - the '91 300d decided it didn't like air in it's tire... # > - the '86 cj-10a's locking security console lock disintegrated, but last # tank 21 mpg # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:45:52 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: catching up on pictures... not bad at all on the longevity of the shakes! my house currently has 60 year-old shakes on it (for siding, not roofing). they're holding up extremely well, but are getting taken off and replaced with a vinyl replica. only reason i'm doing this is that the large addition i'm putting on kind of overwhelms the original house, and the only way to tie the two together is to put all new siding on everything. kind of hard to match up old shakes, so all new it is! and hats off to your wife for the green thumb. Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Neal Hoover" Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:33 PM Subject: Re: fsj: Re: catching up on pictures... > the garden is the better half's doing... thanx... she is a master at it, > amazing what she has done with it all... me, I'm lucky if I don't > kill plants by looking at them... :) My job is to drive the jeep to > the nursery, sit and wait, then drive all of them (plants and wife) home... :) > > 20 years ago cedar roofing was affordable and used a lot on the "finer" > homes. funny, my neighbor's house up the hill from me was built at the > same time (circa 1984), his is larger, has a better view and comp roof... > it only cost him around $74k, this house is smaller, two story, cedar > siding and shake roof but sold for $84K. The shake holds up fine if > you have a 12/12 pitch roof and no trees nearby... this is the original > roof... we're waiting until after the wedding in August to start thinking > about the expense of replacing it with comp or something else... > > I think we may have had it cleaned once since 1994 when we bought the place.. > so, what you see is natural cedar shake in the PNW with little or no care... > 25 years old... > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sun, 12 Jul 2009, Neal Hoover wrote: > > # daaaaang..... that garden is worth noting. > # didn't know you had that in your bag o' tricks. > # pretty killer. > # > # btw, i noticed the cedar shake shingles on all the roofs. any reason as to > # why so much of that and not asphalt or metal? seems like with all that > # rain, the shakes would gob up with mold, gook, etc... > # > # Neal A. Hoover > # Project '76 J-10 > # Project '96 XJ > # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > # > # > # ----- Original Message ----- > # From: "john" > # To: > # Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:57 PM > # Subject: fsj: catching up on pictures... > # > # > # > been under the weather for a week or so, respiratory issues... not enough > # rain > # > and too many fireworks... starting to come back around, thankfully, > # raining today! > # > > # > one benefit of trying to hack up a lung in the middle of the night is that > # I > # > was up early enough to see a pre-dawn clear sky and Venus... :) (yes, my > # > camera goes with me just about every where... :) > # > > # > here's some pictures to catch up... > # > > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-10-4am-Venus-Sunrise-JEM_1035.jpg > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-07-garden/ALL.html > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-05-jeep-cj10a-in-use/ > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/07-Jul-04-fireworks/ > # > > # http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/06-Jun-28-drive-Bellevue-Seattle-Snohomish-Machias/ALL.html > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/06-Jun-21-garden-clouds/ALL.html > # > > # > > # > in other news: > # > - ran the SD33T down to Centralia for the '83 J10 stepside project > # > - the '99 WJ is in the shop, axle bearings and seals, running great > # > - the '91 300d decided it didn't like air in it's tire... > # > - the '86 cj-10a's locking security console lock disintegrated, but last > # tank 21 mpg > # > > # > john > # > > # > ----- > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:15:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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